Active Users:410 Time:01/05/2025 10:52:44 PM
I am determined to prove, before it's revealed, that Lanfear killed Asmodean. Tom Send a noteboard - 26/05/2010 05:36:59 AM
Presumably, Lanfear had three wishes available when visiting the Aelfinn (or is it the Eelfinn?). You know, the foxes. No one had been there for the longest time. "The longest time" said the fox, echoing Mat's thoughts (I'm referring to the only time we've ever seen the foxes and their musk-smelling lair, in The Shadow Rising).

It's not even clear that, in the Age of Legends, the protocols were understood by everyone, or that Mierin would have gone through the portal (or that people were permitted to use them generally). I'm of the opinion that, given the danger, only specific scholars focused on the Finns would have gone through the portals, and Mierin was studying other things (like Shaitan's prison).

Given this knowledge (and the way Mat stumbled into his wishes), I think it's easy to reconstruct what happened:

Lanfear has just fallen through the ter'angreal. She's just confronted Rand and realized that he is a lot more powerful than she thought he would be. He is a lot more powerful than he SHOULD be, given how she instructed Asmodean. She thinks he betrayed her.

She ends up in the room with the foxes, just like Mat did in The Shadow Rising. Like Mat, she doesn't understand what they're saying about honoring the ancient agreement and what they mean when they ask what she needs.

"I could just kill Asmodean!" she shrieks.

"Done".

She appears in Caemlyn, balefires Asmodean and returns. This is probably said before Moiraine can do anything. With an evil glint in her eye she decides to do something awful to Moiraine as her second wish.

"Done".

Her third wish is probably something silly and stupid, like "I want to look like Ilyena so Lews Therin will remember me and fall in love with me."

"Done."

Ah...but she didn't discuss payment, did she?
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

*MySmiley*
Reply to message
I am determined to prove, before it's revealed, that Lanfear killed Asmodean. - 26/05/2010 05:36:59 AM 1216 Views
It's unlikely - 26/05/2010 09:17:06 AM 892 Views
Re: It's unlikely - 26/05/2010 02:04:08 PM 852 Views
Well... - 26/05/2010 03:09:38 PM 843 Views
A few points - 26/05/2010 03:50:12 PM 636 Views
Re: A few points - 26/05/2010 04:07:15 PM 710 Views
Re: A few points - 26/05/2010 04:23:39 PM 705 Views
Re: A few points - 26/05/2010 05:26:27 PM 684 Views
Actually I believe... - 26/05/2010 06:00:55 PM 754 Views
Re: Actually I believe... - 26/05/2010 07:04:51 PM 749 Views
I think... - 26/05/2010 07:35:16 PM 672 Views
Re: I think... - 26/05/2010 07:47:19 PM 615 Views
IMO, the difference is that Ishy was strongly connected to the DO, when he died in TAR. *NM* - 26/05/2010 07:55:47 PM 316 Views
Re: IMO, the difference is that Ishy was strongly connected to the DO, when he died in TAR. - 26/05/2010 08:25:36 PM 634 Views
But Ishy channeled the TP; thus the DO was more aware of him in TAR. *NM* - 26/05/2010 08:33:45 PM 282 Views
I don't see how that really makes a difference - 26/05/2010 08:43:58 PM 659 Views
At least Asmo didn't channel the TP, when he died; this could be the difference to Ishy. *NM* - 26/05/2010 08:46:44 PM 293 Views
Re: At least Asmo didn't channel the TP, when he died; this could be the difference to Ishy. - 26/05/2010 09:23:10 PM 623 Views
Well, the TP is not related to who killed Asmo, in my view - 26/05/2010 09:34:42 PM 678 Views
That doesn't make sense - 26/05/2010 09:40:10 PM 647 Views
That has nothing to do with the identity of the killer. - 26/05/2010 09:56:18 PM 589 Views
I still think you are making this more convluted than it needs to be - 26/05/2010 10:21:26 PM 659 Views
You confuse two things... - 27/05/2010 09:46:56 AM 577 Views
But your theory completely relies on this thought - 27/05/2010 11:48:48 AM 597 Views
I argue... - 27/05/2010 12:20:09 PM 760 Views
we don't know any of that until WH - 27/05/2010 12:49:53 PM 742 Views
I cite your statement a few posts above... - 27/05/2010 12:59:06 PM 634 Views
Re: I cite your statement a few posts above... - 27/05/2010 01:14:51 PM 655 Views
Thanks! - 26/05/2010 07:12:01 PM 630 Views
Re: A few points - 26/05/2010 05:55:27 PM 694 Views
I think you are grasping a little - 26/05/2010 07:11:36 PM 691 Views
Re: Well... - 26/05/2010 04:15:42 PM 725 Views
I know... - 26/05/2010 07:54:03 PM 683 Views
Re: I know... - 26/05/2010 11:58:13 PM 566 Views
Re: I know... - 27/05/2010 09:41:20 AM 732 Views
graendal - 26/05/2010 11:57:04 PM 612 Views
I'm 80% sure it's Graendal, with 20% left over for Moghedien - 26/05/2010 02:00:09 PM 676 Views
Moghedien would be quite the trick - 26/05/2010 02:17:57 PM 672 Views
Re: Moghedien would be quite the trick - 26/05/2010 02:26:23 PM 675 Views
Re: Moghedien would be quite the trick - 26/05/2010 03:06:49 PM 680 Views
Yep. More impressive than the guy who was killed by a shepherd, right? =) - 27/05/2010 03:44:07 PM 625 Views
Maybe she did it, but you misjudge Lanfear bigtime, I think - 26/05/2010 07:12:09 PM 681 Views
Aviendha(sp) done it *NM* - 26/05/2010 09:20:11 PM 332 Views
I agree - 30/05/2010 09:44:57 PM 843 Views

Reply to Message