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well Moghedien somehow managed to create a whole Body for Birgitte darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 26/05/2010 10:36:45 PM

I think the danger of entering in the Flesh is that you no longer have an anchor in the real world and are quite possibly leaving that piece of your soul behind (as the WOs think) because TAR requires some anchor to exist or it will drain you ... just a thought.


Is there a consensus about what would happen if you were to enter TAR in the flesh, alter your body with your mind, and exit TAR while those alterations were in place.

What if Rand had lost the mental struggle against LTT when he followed Rahvin to TAR. Would his body have physically changed to match that of LTT, and would that change have been permanent even after he (or possibly LTT) left TAR.

This ofcourse brings up the whole possibility of Rand restoring his lost hand by imagining a new one. It also has more significant possibilities such as an old channeler altering his body to a younger/healthier version and essentially becoming immortal that way. Presumably this would be well known if possible, so either it is not, or there is some unknown and heavy price for using TAR for such flesh-manipulation.


So who knows what's really possible!
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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Help me out with a TAR problem - 26/05/2010 08:10:07 PM 1735 Views
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No I don't mean that - 26/05/2010 08:37:27 PM 1177 Views
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Re: I'm inclined to think the a'dam stops Dream Walking - 26/05/2010 09:49:24 PM 865 Views
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Re: I'm inclined to think the a'dam stops Dream Walking - 27/05/2010 06:46:42 PM 847 Views
I think it would be the latter - 27/05/2010 07:11:17 PM 967 Views
I have a few mundane my reasons as to why Moghedien probably wouldn't and couldn't do that. - 26/05/2010 11:39:14 PM 963 Views
I disagree - 27/05/2010 03:21:05 PM 918 Views
Re: I disagree - 27/05/2010 07:08:41 PM 945 Views
If she could enter TAR she could drag an AS in with her, compell them and make them take it off - 27/05/2010 07:14:26 PM 974 Views
Re: If she could enter TAR she could drag an AS in with her, compell them and make them take it off - 27/05/2010 09:21:11 PM 1087 Views
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We are close to the same idea, but different in where we think her ability will stop. - 27/05/2010 09:37:28 PM 898 Views
*nods* *NM* - 27/05/2010 11:29:10 PM 419 Views
But channelling is not a requirement to enter TAR - 27/05/2010 08:31:21 AM 841 Views
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I don't agree. - 27/05/2010 03:02:08 PM 904 Views
you are misreading me I think - 27/05/2010 03:11:50 PM 1033 Views
Re: you are misreading me I think - 27/05/2010 06:30:29 PM 976 Views
Re: you are misreading me I think - 27/05/2010 06:42:36 PM 939 Views
That's the point. - 27/05/2010 06:57:35 PM 929 Views
Re: That's the point. - 27/05/2010 07:10:25 PM 899 Views
Re: That's the point. - 27/05/2010 07:16:49 PM 872 Views
We may never know! - 27/05/2010 09:21:48 PM 917 Views
I would be very surprised if it came up in the books - 27/05/2010 09:25:29 PM 882 Views
Interesting idea. - 26/05/2010 09:38:04 PM 859 Views
Fascinating Idea #4 on this thread. Thanks, Sid! *NM* - 26/05/2010 10:31:48 PM 428 Views
Channeler heal thyself - 26/05/2010 11:40:25 PM 997 Views
Re: Help me out with a TAR problem - 26/05/2010 08:35:49 PM 896 Views
Doesn't work - 26/05/2010 08:37:40 PM 1108 Views
we've seen this fail - 26/05/2010 08:38:06 PM 850 Views
I don't mean that - 26/05/2010 08:39:32 PM 842 Views
I'd say you either die or just wake up if you tried that - 26/05/2010 08:40:31 PM 846 Views
As far as I know... - 26/05/2010 08:38:36 PM 907 Views
This could work - 26/05/2010 08:43:21 PM 1054 Views
Thanks - 26/05/2010 08:51:17 PM 890 Views
Re: Thanks - 26/05/2010 09:12:10 PM 850 Views
So I think this disproves it - 26/05/2010 08:49:55 PM 1143 Views
Is that really true? - 26/05/2010 08:53:45 PM 915 Views
Sid, I made some edits, but really nothing's certain. Look again, pls. *NM* - 26/05/2010 08:55:30 PM 439 Views
I would generally agree with your edits - 26/05/2010 08:57:32 PM 876 Views
yes and no - 26/05/2010 09:31:53 PM 790 Views
Re: yes and no - 26/05/2010 09:55:46 PM 839 Views
well Moghedien somehow managed to create a whole Body for Birgitte - 26/05/2010 10:36:45 PM 922 Views
Could Rahvin turn Rand into a fishman if he was just there in Spirit? - 26/05/2010 10:19:05 PM 872 Views
And I agree with your response - 26/05/2010 09:49:00 PM 867 Views
You have to enter TAR in the Flesh to leave it in the Flesh. - 26/05/2010 10:06:02 PM 969 Views
Re: You have to enter TAR in the Flesh to leave it in the Flesh. - 26/05/2010 10:57:06 PM 825 Views
The short answer to Birgitte - 27/05/2010 02:37:13 AM 854 Views
I think this is possible. - 26/05/2010 11:28:51 PM 916 Views
Dream gateway! - 27/05/2010 12:05:31 AM 859 Views
I think the problem is that you can only channel Spirit through your T'A'R form - 27/05/2010 03:05:13 PM 815 Views
if you dream yourself into T'A'R then you're just a creation of your own mind - 27/05/2010 12:02:38 AM 801 Views
aren't we all? *NM* - 27/05/2010 12:04:08 AM 394 Views
if that was true you couldn't die in T'A'R - 27/05/2010 12:08:10 AM 829 Views
Why not? - 27/05/2010 03:41:10 PM 989 Views
if it's just a creation of your mind? - 27/05/2010 04:03:29 PM 936 Views
is it possible to Travel in T'A'R when dreaming? - 27/05/2010 12:06:57 AM 847 Views
I don't think anybody has said this before... - 27/05/2010 04:01:28 AM 927 Views
Your real body can only channel Spirit. - 27/05/2010 05:25:08 AM 952 Views
Yes, but you need real One Power to affect the real world. - 27/05/2010 06:46:21 AM 910 Views
The only real situation we have to compare... - 27/05/2010 06:59:51 AM 832 Views
That's a weird situation. - 27/05/2010 07:09:21 AM 884 Views
Well, yes. The Birgitte situation can't be compared directly to Sidious' - 27/05/2010 08:01:38 AM 913 Views
Re: The only real situation we have to compare... - 27/05/2010 07:11:45 PM 942 Views
If something that didn't exist before existed after... - 27/05/2010 08:58:55 PM 856 Views
Re: If something that didn't exist before existed after... - 28/05/2010 02:09:01 PM 964 Views
Actually I don't think so.. - 28/05/2010 02:31:27 PM 818 Views
your dream self couldn't exit TAR... - 27/05/2010 06:39:26 AM 897 Views
TAR constructs cannot leave it. - 27/05/2010 04:57:12 PM 1061 Views
Not just constructs ... anything reflected in TAR cannot leave it ... - 27/05/2010 10:05:37 PM 1003 Views
Re: Help me out with a TAR problem - 27/05/2010 06:58:18 PM 844 Views
shucks everyone already thought of this... *NM* - 27/05/2010 07:08:50 PM 392 Views
problem solved... sort of? - 28/05/2010 02:48:13 AM 978 Views
I agree with those saying that if you don't physically enter TAR... - 29/05/2010 09:32:40 PM 883 Views

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