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You are right... Etzel Send a noteboard - 17/06/2010 11:31:05 AM
That might actually be the translation of Semirhage, though the word "lady" almost sounds a bit too reverent, considering that the Forsaken names are supposed to be contemptuous.

Demandred certainly means something with hate/hatred, because this was Demandred's most famous trait. It's even stated in the Guide:
"In the third year of the war, he turned to the Dark Lord to avenge his overwhelming hatred of the Dragon, and was called Demandred."

This suggests a correlation between Barid's turning to the Shadow, because of his overwhelming hatred, and his nickname Demandred.

Another idea for Mesaana might be something like evil stepmother, or so.
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Forsaken translations Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:16:36 AM 2328 Views
Yeah... Etzel - 17/06/2010 09:31:15 AM 1621 Views
Semirhage is named as "The Lady of Pain" in KoD, by Rand... Shannow - 17/06/2010 11:14:56 AM 1963 Views
You are right... Etzel - 17/06/2010 11:31:05 AM 1530 Views
Do Semirhage & Bel'al actually mean those things or are they other nicknames? Cannoli - 17/06/2010 11:38:18 AM 1382 Views
On Be'lal Etzel - 17/06/2010 11:42:31 AM 1290 Views
Nice ideas! Sidious - 17/06/2010 02:10:43 PM 1424 Views
The beauty of a re-read is that there are so many little gems I'd forgotten darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 02:48:19 PM 1201 Views
Re: The beauty of a re-read is that there are so many little gems I'd forgotten Sidious - 17/06/2010 04:43:48 PM 1338 Views
Gai'shain = those sworn to peace in battle Great Lord of Chaos - 17/06/2010 09:22:02 PM 1260 Views
Gaidin = Brother to Battle ... which is what I think the OP meant to use darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:32:20 PM 1194 Views
Presumably he meant "Dai Shan", or "Battle Lord", as he said. Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2010 10:37:07 PM 1269 Views
or that *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:45:49 PM 729 Views
About Aginor Ishamael - 17/06/2010 12:50:04 PM 1692 Views
Great! Sidious - 17/06/2010 02:11:47 PM 1376 Views
Some Old Tongue translations sylph - 17/06/2010 01:34:18 PM 1299 Views
ah Thanks! *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 02:12:00 PM 739 Views
Good luck with that DomA - 17/06/2010 02:36:36 PM 1338 Views
Re: Good luck with that Cynewulf - 17/06/2010 03:24:52 PM 1194 Views
Very interesting! Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:34:36 PM 1282 Views
As always, KOuellette - 20/06/2010 02:25:07 PM 1187 Views
I always thought Lanfear probably translated to something closer to a Moon translation darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 02:43:04 PM 1487 Views
it's the other way around... DomA - 17/06/2010 02:58:33 PM 1249 Views
good point darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 03:13:17 PM 1253 Views
Re: good point DomA - 17/06/2010 04:05:50 PM 1306 Views
Not to mention she STILL hasn't earned a 3rd (or in 4th) name darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 04:16:57 PM 1285 Views
What about Cyndane Sidious - 17/06/2010 04:48:03 PM 1179 Views
It must be her favorite one, since it's the only one she actually earned *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:43:41 PM 652 Views
Well she earned Mierin *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:27:05 PM 803 Views
how so? I figured mom and dad gave that one too her *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 677 Views
she earned it by being born... ha! gotcha *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:39:10 PM 641 Views
HA! But technically I think her mother earned that *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:58:30 PM 569 Views
well she earned Eronaile by virtue of her genetics *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:04:36 PM 653 Views
Tee hee ... I'd credit her father on that one *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:31:19 PM 701 Views
Re: good point Sidious - 17/06/2010 04:47:01 PM 1313 Views
Again, a self-proclaimed ownership aimed at making her seem more impressive darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:55:12 PM 1206 Views
I disagree Etzel - 17/06/2010 06:20:08 PM 1305 Views
Personally I think that order was off the cuff darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:55:28 PM 1420 Views
Re: Personally I think that order was off the cuff Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:02:06 PM 1394 Views
Disagree darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:28:51 PM 1324 Views
Re: Disagree Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:41:23 PM 1267 Views
I'm not being very clear darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:14:10 PM 1274 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear Sidious - 18/06/2010 08:06:56 AM 3649 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 03:33:12 PM 1288 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear Sidious - 18/06/2010 04:35:12 PM 1133 Views
The point isn't if Lanfear has the skill, it's that it was poorly shown. darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 05:31:11 PM 1282 Views
I think it's shown well Sidious - 18/06/2010 06:10:55 PM 1390 Views
your own examples show only OP prowess though! darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 06:54:38 PM 1387 Views
How can you say Semirhage didn't achieve anything? Rurouni_Kenshin - 18/06/2010 01:59:44 AM 1334 Views
I'm partial to Sammael myself. Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 02:24:49 AM 1133 Views
The statement makes clear that those 6 were all quite impressive Etzel - 17/06/2010 10:51:49 PM 1105 Views
I don't see that bearing out in the text at all darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:57:36 PM 1290 Views
Well, with this point I don't disagree.. *NM* Etzel - 17/06/2010 11:10:34 PM 1151 Views
darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 11:12:58 PM 1283 Views
Lanfear's motives were never Shadow-driven FanEditor10 - 20/06/2010 06:47:22 PM 1302 Views
not ballsy, just psycho darius_sedai - 20/06/2010 07:25:46 PM 1289 Views
Like Etzel I don't agree Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:30:37 PM 1166 Views
I think she's a weak villain darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:58:01 PM 1139 Views
Re: I think she's a weak villain Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:03:47 PM 1230 Views
and slaughter the Seanchan empress on her own throne thowing the empire into chaos darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:30:27 PM 1259 Views
Semirhage has done more than anyone since Ishy destroyed the Ten Nations Rurouni_Kenshin - 18/06/2010 02:06:30 AM 1230 Views
Regarding "Demandred" ... Shishka - 17/06/2010 04:51:43 PM 1243 Views
I always thought it was a coincidence Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:32:39 PM 1366 Views
Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... Gher - 18/06/2010 12:19:58 AM 1203 Views
Wow. I'm not quite sure where this came from... *NM* Gher - 18/06/2010 05:24:25 PM 637 Views
Re: Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... FanEditor10 - 20/06/2010 07:01:55 PM 1356 Views
No, it was supposed to be a joke. Gher - 20/06/2010 07:23:19 PM 1261 Views
Re: No, it was supposed to be a joke. FanEditor10 - 21/06/2010 06:36:44 AM 1305 Views
Re: I always thought it was a coincidence DomA - 18/06/2010 05:20:11 PM 1291 Views
Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense Lordling - 17/06/2010 06:00:35 PM 1252 Views
Interesting *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:33:03 PM 724 Views
Re: Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense DomA - 18/06/2010 04:23:38 PM 1475 Views
Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... Shishka - 18/06/2010 05:28:41 PM 1195 Views
We also have din in Mera'din/Brotherless and far in Far Madding Lordling - 18/06/2010 08:16:14 PM 1292 Views
Re: Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... DomA - 20/06/2010 03:56:38 AM 1441 Views
And Dragon translations... Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2010 10:53:02 PM 1359 Views
Re: And Dragon translations... darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 11:01:25 PM 1228 Views
Why would they call themselves "Spears of the fictional creature"? Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 12:29:49 AM 1144 Views
It was meant as a joke, but really it could be some generic term rather than meaning darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 06:00:36 AM 1205 Views
Except that they don't know what a 'Dragon' is, except as it relates to Lews Therin/Rand Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 05:11:30 PM 1192 Views
like I said, I was just making a joke of it ... you are quite right with "Rand's Spears" darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 05:32:42 PM 1062 Views
But of course the NT word for Dragon isn't Dragon DomA - 18/06/2010 05:45:34 PM 1438 Views
Ah yes, that sounds reasonable. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 08:28:54 PM 688 Views
If "aman" is the Old Tongue name for Dragon, maybe "DEMANdred" contains a reference to Dragon too... Shannow - 20/06/2010 08:13:35 PM 1470 Views
"Dragon Wannabe" *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 20/06/2010 09:23:09 PM 526 Views
Lizard? *NM* Gher - 20/06/2010 10:04:21 PM 700 Views
"Scaled Worm"... though I doubt he'd take that name up in pride . *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 22/06/2010 01:23:03 AM 619 Views
It's probably too much to attempt to guess at the meanings of words... Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2010 10:58:06 PM 999 Views
A nice article about the Old Tongue and my ramblings Lordling - 18/06/2010 11:14:24 AM 7445 Views
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