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Do Semirhage & Bel'al actually mean those things or are they other nicknames? Cannoli Send a noteboard - 17/06/2010 11:38:18 AM
I mean, is one of them the equivalent of "Lord of the Morning" or "Prince of the Dawn"? We know that Bel'al was CALLED "the envious" but he was also called "the Netweaver" which we learn in the same conversation. Does it actually SAY her name means "Lady of Pain" or is that just another name given to her? How do we know that, like "the Dragon" they aren't named after legendary creatures whose names would have certain conotations to AoLers but the translations would be meaningless to us? For instance, if we called a legendary terrorist "the Ghoul" or "Chainsaw" which people three thousand years after an apocalyptic event might have difficulty translating to keep the same meaning. Moghedian is generally referred to as "the spider" but she is named after a specific breed of spider that seems to be extinct in the modern era, or at least in the wetlands, so a direct translation would be useless.
Cannoli
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Forsaken translations - 17/06/2010 09:16:36 AM 2676 Views
Yeah... - 17/06/2010 09:31:15 AM 1919 Views
Semirhage is named as "The Lady of Pain" in KoD, by Rand... - 17/06/2010 11:14:56 AM 2282 Views
You are right... - 17/06/2010 11:31:05 AM 1818 Views
Do Semirhage & Bel'al actually mean those things or are they other nicknames? - 17/06/2010 11:38:18 AM 1756 Views
On Be'lal - 17/06/2010 11:42:31 AM 1609 Views
Nice ideas! - 17/06/2010 02:10:43 PM 1730 Views
Gai'shain = those sworn to peace in battle - 17/06/2010 09:22:02 PM 1583 Views
Gaidin = Brother to Battle ... which is what I think the OP meant to use - 17/06/2010 09:32:20 PM 1519 Views
Presumably he meant "Dai Shan", or "Battle Lord", as he said. - 17/06/2010 10:37:07 PM 1577 Views
or that *NM* - 17/06/2010 10:45:49 PM 904 Views
About Aginor - 17/06/2010 12:50:04 PM 2035 Views
Great! - 17/06/2010 02:11:47 PM 1712 Views
Some Old Tongue translations - 17/06/2010 01:34:18 PM 1614 Views
ah Thanks! *NM* - 17/06/2010 02:12:00 PM 887 Views
Good luck with that - 17/06/2010 02:36:36 PM 1692 Views
Re: Good luck with that - 17/06/2010 03:24:52 PM 1509 Views
Very interesting! - 17/06/2010 08:34:36 PM 1677 Views
As always, - 20/06/2010 02:25:07 PM 1488 Views
I always thought Lanfear probably translated to something closer to a Moon translation - 17/06/2010 02:43:04 PM 1824 Views
it's the other way around... - 17/06/2010 02:58:33 PM 1565 Views
good point - 17/06/2010 03:13:17 PM 1543 Views
Re: good point - 17/06/2010 04:05:50 PM 1616 Views
Not to mention she STILL hasn't earned a 3rd (or in 4th) name - 17/06/2010 04:16:57 PM 1586 Views
What about Cyndane - 17/06/2010 04:48:03 PM 1505 Views
It must be her favorite one, since it's the only one she actually earned *NM* - 17/06/2010 05:43:41 PM 819 Views
Well she earned Mierin *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:27:05 PM 939 Views
how so? I figured mom and dad gave that one too her *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 845 Views
she earned it by being born... ha! gotcha *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:39:10 PM 807 Views
HA! But technically I think her mother earned that *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:58:30 PM 731 Views
well she earned Eronaile by virtue of her genetics *NM* - 17/06/2010 09:04:36 PM 814 Views
Tee hee ... I'd credit her father on that one *NM* - 17/06/2010 09:31:19 PM 857 Views
Re: good point - 17/06/2010 04:47:01 PM 1649 Views
Again, a self-proclaimed ownership aimed at making her seem more impressive - 17/06/2010 05:55:12 PM 1579 Views
I disagree - 17/06/2010 06:20:08 PM 1622 Views
Personally I think that order was off the cuff - 17/06/2010 08:55:28 PM 1736 Views
Re: Personally I think that order was off the cuff - 17/06/2010 09:02:06 PM 1687 Views
Disagree - 17/06/2010 09:28:51 PM 1603 Views
Re: Disagree - 17/06/2010 09:41:23 PM 1579 Views
I'm not being very clear - 17/06/2010 10:14:10 PM 1570 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 08:06:56 AM 4036 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 03:33:12 PM 1574 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 04:35:12 PM 1442 Views
The point isn't if Lanfear has the skill, it's that it was poorly shown. - 18/06/2010 05:31:11 PM 1603 Views
I think it's shown well - 18/06/2010 06:10:55 PM 1752 Views
your own examples show only OP prowess though! - 18/06/2010 06:54:38 PM 1690 Views
How can you say Semirhage didn't achieve anything? - 18/06/2010 01:59:44 AM 1632 Views
I'm partial to Sammael myself. - 18/06/2010 02:24:49 AM 1448 Views
The statement makes clear that those 6 were all quite impressive - 17/06/2010 10:51:49 PM 1395 Views
I don't see that bearing out in the text at all - 17/06/2010 10:57:36 PM 1591 Views
Well, with this point I don't disagree.. *NM* - 17/06/2010 11:10:34 PM 1502 Views
- 17/06/2010 11:12:58 PM 1619 Views
Lanfear's motives were never Shadow-driven - 20/06/2010 06:47:22 PM 1636 Views
not ballsy, just psycho - 20/06/2010 07:25:46 PM 1611 Views
Like Etzel I don't agree - 17/06/2010 08:30:37 PM 1501 Views
I think she's a weak villain - 17/06/2010 08:58:01 PM 1472 Views
Re: I think she's a weak villain - 17/06/2010 09:03:47 PM 1550 Views
Semirhage has done more than anyone since Ishy destroyed the Ten Nations - 18/06/2010 02:06:30 AM 1564 Views
Regarding "Demandred" ... - 17/06/2010 04:51:43 PM 1575 Views
I always thought it was a coincidence - 17/06/2010 08:32:39 PM 1832 Views
Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... - 18/06/2010 12:19:58 AM 1543 Views
Wow. I'm not quite sure where this came from... *NM* - 18/06/2010 05:24:25 PM 786 Views
Re: Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... - 20/06/2010 07:01:55 PM 1635 Views
No, it was supposed to be a joke. - 20/06/2010 07:23:19 PM 1586 Views
Re: No, it was supposed to be a joke. - 21/06/2010 06:36:44 AM 1589 Views
Re: I always thought it was a coincidence - 18/06/2010 05:20:11 PM 1608 Views
Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense - 17/06/2010 06:00:35 PM 1606 Views
Interesting *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:33:03 PM 892 Views
Re: Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense - 18/06/2010 04:23:38 PM 1808 Views
Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... - 18/06/2010 05:28:41 PM 1495 Views
We also have din in Mera'din/Brotherless and far in Far Madding - 18/06/2010 08:16:14 PM 1594 Views
Re: Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... - 20/06/2010 03:56:38 AM 1794 Views
And Dragon translations... - 17/06/2010 10:53:02 PM 1716 Views
Re: And Dragon translations... - 17/06/2010 11:01:25 PM 1526 Views
But of course the NT word for Dragon isn't Dragon - 18/06/2010 05:45:34 PM 1759 Views
Ah yes, that sounds reasonable. *NM* - 18/06/2010 08:28:54 PM 843 Views
If "aman" is the Old Tongue name for Dragon, maybe "DEMANdred" contains a reference to Dragon too... - 20/06/2010 08:13:35 PM 1761 Views
"Dragon Wannabe" *NM* - 20/06/2010 09:23:09 PM 694 Views
Lizard? *NM* - 20/06/2010 10:04:21 PM 880 Views
"Scaled Worm"... though I doubt he'd take that name up in pride . *NM* - 22/06/2010 01:23:03 AM 773 Views
It's probably too much to attempt to guess at the meanings of words... - 17/06/2010 10:58:06 PM 1325 Views
A nice article about the Old Tongue and my ramblings - 18/06/2010 11:14:24 AM 7758 Views

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