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Nice ideas! Sidious Send a noteboard - 17/06/2010 02:10:43 PM

Yes I forgot about Moghedien being a species of spider. Be'lal is probably the Envious, and even Moiraine makes it plain that it was his strong trait.

Semirhage may be the Lady of Pain, or perhaps crudely translated it would be the Woman of Agony or something.

Demandred has many possibilities. My first choice would be 'the Covetor', but another strong possibility is the 'False Prophet' because he was a potential Dragon, who went rogue.

Mesaana's probably centered on revenge, Graendal's on lust, and Asmodean on 'Unfulfilled Talent' or perhaps something directly surrounding his music.
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Forsaken translations Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:16:36 AM 2328 Views
Yeah... Etzel - 17/06/2010 09:31:15 AM 1621 Views
Semirhage is named as "The Lady of Pain" in KoD, by Rand... Shannow - 17/06/2010 11:14:56 AM 1963 Views
You are right... Etzel - 17/06/2010 11:31:05 AM 1529 Views
Do Semirhage & Bel'al actually mean those things or are they other nicknames? Cannoli - 17/06/2010 11:38:18 AM 1381 Views
On Be'lal Etzel - 17/06/2010 11:42:31 AM 1289 Views
Nice ideas! Sidious - 17/06/2010 02:10:43 PM 1424 Views
The beauty of a re-read is that there are so many little gems I'd forgotten darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 02:48:19 PM 1201 Views
Re: The beauty of a re-read is that there are so many little gems I'd forgotten Sidious - 17/06/2010 04:43:48 PM 1337 Views
Gai'shain = those sworn to peace in battle Great Lord of Chaos - 17/06/2010 09:22:02 PM 1260 Views
Gaidin = Brother to Battle ... which is what I think the OP meant to use darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:32:20 PM 1193 Views
Presumably he meant "Dai Shan", or "Battle Lord", as he said. Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2010 10:37:07 PM 1268 Views
or that *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:45:49 PM 729 Views
About Aginor Ishamael - 17/06/2010 12:50:04 PM 1691 Views
Great! Sidious - 17/06/2010 02:11:47 PM 1375 Views
Some Old Tongue translations sylph - 17/06/2010 01:34:18 PM 1298 Views
ah Thanks! *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 02:12:00 PM 739 Views
Good luck with that DomA - 17/06/2010 02:36:36 PM 1338 Views
Re: Good luck with that Cynewulf - 17/06/2010 03:24:52 PM 1193 Views
Very interesting! Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:34:36 PM 1282 Views
As always, KOuellette - 20/06/2010 02:25:07 PM 1185 Views
I always thought Lanfear probably translated to something closer to a Moon translation darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 02:43:04 PM 1487 Views
it's the other way around... DomA - 17/06/2010 02:58:33 PM 1248 Views
good point darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 03:13:17 PM 1253 Views
Re: good point DomA - 17/06/2010 04:05:50 PM 1306 Views
Not to mention she STILL hasn't earned a 3rd (or in 4th) name darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 04:16:57 PM 1285 Views
What about Cyndane Sidious - 17/06/2010 04:48:03 PM 1178 Views
It must be her favorite one, since it's the only one she actually earned *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:43:41 PM 652 Views
Well she earned Mierin *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:27:05 PM 802 Views
how so? I figured mom and dad gave that one too her *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 676 Views
she earned it by being born... ha! gotcha *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:39:10 PM 641 Views
HA! But technically I think her mother earned that *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:58:30 PM 568 Views
well she earned Eronaile by virtue of her genetics *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:04:36 PM 652 Views
Tee hee ... I'd credit her father on that one *NM* darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:31:19 PM 701 Views
Re: good point Sidious - 17/06/2010 04:47:01 PM 1313 Views
Again, a self-proclaimed ownership aimed at making her seem more impressive darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:55:12 PM 1205 Views
I disagree Etzel - 17/06/2010 06:20:08 PM 1304 Views
Personally I think that order was off the cuff darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:55:28 PM 1419 Views
Re: Personally I think that order was off the cuff Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:02:06 PM 1393 Views
Disagree darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:28:51 PM 1324 Views
Re: Disagree Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:41:23 PM 1267 Views
I'm not being very clear darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:14:10 PM 1274 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear Sidious - 18/06/2010 08:06:56 AM 3648 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 03:33:12 PM 1287 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear Sidious - 18/06/2010 04:35:12 PM 1132 Views
The point isn't if Lanfear has the skill, it's that it was poorly shown. darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 05:31:11 PM 1282 Views
I think it's shown well Sidious - 18/06/2010 06:10:55 PM 1390 Views
your own examples show only OP prowess though! darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 06:54:38 PM 1387 Views
How can you say Semirhage didn't achieve anything? Rurouni_Kenshin - 18/06/2010 01:59:44 AM 1333 Views
I'm partial to Sammael myself. Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 02:24:49 AM 1132 Views
The statement makes clear that those 6 were all quite impressive Etzel - 17/06/2010 10:51:49 PM 1104 Views
I don't see that bearing out in the text at all darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:57:36 PM 1289 Views
Well, with this point I don't disagree.. *NM* Etzel - 17/06/2010 11:10:34 PM 1151 Views
darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 11:12:58 PM 1283 Views
Lanfear's motives were never Shadow-driven FanEditor10 - 20/06/2010 06:47:22 PM 1301 Views
not ballsy, just psycho darius_sedai - 20/06/2010 07:25:46 PM 1289 Views
Like Etzel I don't agree Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:30:37 PM 1166 Views
I think she's a weak villain darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:58:01 PM 1139 Views
Re: I think she's a weak villain Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:03:47 PM 1230 Views
and slaughter the Seanchan empress on her own throne thowing the empire into chaos darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 09:30:27 PM 1259 Views
Semirhage has done more than anyone since Ishy destroyed the Ten Nations Rurouni_Kenshin - 18/06/2010 02:06:30 AM 1229 Views
Regarding "Demandred" ... Shishka - 17/06/2010 04:51:43 PM 1243 Views
I always thought it was a coincidence Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:32:39 PM 1365 Views
Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... Gher - 18/06/2010 12:19:58 AM 1202 Views
Wow. I'm not quite sure where this came from... *NM* Gher - 18/06/2010 05:24:25 PM 637 Views
Re: Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... FanEditor10 - 20/06/2010 07:01:55 PM 1355 Views
No, it was supposed to be a joke. Gher - 20/06/2010 07:23:19 PM 1260 Views
Re: No, it was supposed to be a joke. FanEditor10 - 21/06/2010 06:36:44 AM 1304 Views
Re: I always thought it was a coincidence DomA - 18/06/2010 05:20:11 PM 1290 Views
Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense Lordling - 17/06/2010 06:00:35 PM 1251 Views
Interesting *NM* Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:33:03 PM 724 Views
Re: Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense DomA - 18/06/2010 04:23:38 PM 1475 Views
Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... Shishka - 18/06/2010 05:28:41 PM 1194 Views
We also have din in Mera'din/Brotherless and far in Far Madding Lordling - 18/06/2010 08:16:14 PM 1291 Views
Re: Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... DomA - 20/06/2010 03:56:38 AM 1441 Views
And Dragon translations... Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2010 10:53:02 PM 1358 Views
Re: And Dragon translations... darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 11:01:25 PM 1228 Views
Why would they call themselves "Spears of the fictional creature"? Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 12:29:49 AM 1143 Views
It was meant as a joke, but really it could be some generic term rather than meaning darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 06:00:36 AM 1204 Views
Except that they don't know what a 'Dragon' is, except as it relates to Lews Therin/Rand Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 05:11:30 PM 1191 Views
like I said, I was just making a joke of it ... you are quite right with "Rand's Spears" darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 05:32:42 PM 1061 Views
But of course the NT word for Dragon isn't Dragon DomA - 18/06/2010 05:45:34 PM 1437 Views
Ah yes, that sounds reasonable. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 18/06/2010 08:28:54 PM 687 Views
If "aman" is the Old Tongue name for Dragon, maybe "DEMANdred" contains a reference to Dragon too... Shannow - 20/06/2010 08:13:35 PM 1470 Views
"Dragon Wannabe" *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 20/06/2010 09:23:09 PM 525 Views
Lizard? *NM* Gher - 20/06/2010 10:04:21 PM 699 Views
"Scaled Worm"... though I doubt he'd take that name up in pride . *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 22/06/2010 01:23:03 AM 618 Views
It's probably too much to attempt to guess at the meanings of words... Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2010 10:58:06 PM 999 Views
A nice article about the Old Tongue and my ramblings Lordling - 18/06/2010 11:14:24 AM 7444 Views
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