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Regarding "Demandred" ... Shishka Send a noteboard - 17/06/2010 04:51:43 PM
... I think it's worth noting the similarity to Moiraine's family name "Damodred". That doesn't really help with guessing a translation, but given the sketchy nature of the Damodred clan, I've always thought it no coincidence that RJ chose a name similar to one of the Forsaken, for them.

Also, just to add a little bit to Dom's comments on Lanfear ... "an" is often used to mean "of the". For example, Shaidar Haran translates to "Hand of the Dark", where "Shaidar" is "Dark" and "Haran" is "Hand of the" ("Har", or perhaps "Hara" meaning "hand" ).

And "Carai an Caldazar" means "For the Honor of the Red Eagle" (Caldazar = Rea Eagle, Carai = Honor, "an" = of the, presumably - "For the" is probably just implied).

So, if Dom's specualtion that "La" means "daughter" is correct, then "Lan" could just be shortened form of "La-an", meaning "Daughter of the". In that case, the meaning of "Lan", Nynaeve's guy, may be entirely unrelated.
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Forsaken translations - 17/06/2010 09:16:36 AM 2523 Views
Yeah... - 17/06/2010 09:31:15 AM 1791 Views
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You are right... - 17/06/2010 11:31:05 AM 1697 Views
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Gaidin = Brother to Battle ... which is what I think the OP meant to use - 17/06/2010 09:32:20 PM 1383 Views
Presumably he meant "Dai Shan", or "Battle Lord", as he said. - 17/06/2010 10:37:07 PM 1450 Views
or that *NM* - 17/06/2010 10:45:49 PM 833 Views
About Aginor - 17/06/2010 12:50:04 PM 1889 Views
Great! - 17/06/2010 02:11:47 PM 1589 Views
Some Old Tongue translations - 17/06/2010 01:34:18 PM 1484 Views
ah Thanks! *NM* - 17/06/2010 02:12:00 PM 826 Views
Good luck with that - 17/06/2010 02:36:36 PM 1557 Views
Re: Good luck with that - 17/06/2010 03:24:52 PM 1385 Views
Very interesting! - 17/06/2010 08:34:36 PM 1508 Views
As always, - 20/06/2010 02:25:07 PM 1356 Views
I always thought Lanfear probably translated to something closer to a Moon translation - 17/06/2010 02:43:04 PM 1692 Views
it's the other way around... - 17/06/2010 02:58:33 PM 1436 Views
good point - 17/06/2010 03:13:17 PM 1422 Views
Re: good point - 17/06/2010 04:05:50 PM 1477 Views
Not to mention she STILL hasn't earned a 3rd (or in 4th) name - 17/06/2010 04:16:57 PM 1457 Views
What about Cyndane - 17/06/2010 04:48:03 PM 1345 Views
It must be her favorite one, since it's the only one she actually earned *NM* - 17/06/2010 05:43:41 PM 748 Views
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she earned it by being born... ha! gotcha *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:39:10 PM 730 Views
HA! But technically I think her mother earned that *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:58:30 PM 661 Views
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Tee hee ... I'd credit her father on that one *NM* - 17/06/2010 09:31:19 PM 788 Views
Re: good point - 17/06/2010 04:47:01 PM 1524 Views
Again, a self-proclaimed ownership aimed at making her seem more impressive - 17/06/2010 05:55:12 PM 1416 Views
I disagree - 17/06/2010 06:20:08 PM 1489 Views
Personally I think that order was off the cuff - 17/06/2010 08:55:28 PM 1616 Views
Re: Personally I think that order was off the cuff - 17/06/2010 09:02:06 PM 1568 Views
Disagree - 17/06/2010 09:28:51 PM 1473 Views
Re: Disagree - 17/06/2010 09:41:23 PM 1429 Views
I'm not being very clear - 17/06/2010 10:14:10 PM 1452 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 08:06:56 AM 3891 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 03:33:12 PM 1447 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 04:35:12 PM 1307 Views
The point isn't if Lanfear has the skill, it's that it was poorly shown. - 18/06/2010 05:31:11 PM 1475 Views
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your own examples show only OP prowess though! - 18/06/2010 06:54:38 PM 1562 Views
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The statement makes clear that those 6 were all quite impressive - 17/06/2010 10:51:49 PM 1258 Views
I don't see that bearing out in the text at all - 17/06/2010 10:57:36 PM 1466 Views
Well, with this point I don't disagree.. *NM* - 17/06/2010 11:10:34 PM 1363 Views
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Lanfear's motives were never Shadow-driven - 20/06/2010 06:47:22 PM 1496 Views
not ballsy, just psycho - 20/06/2010 07:25:46 PM 1473 Views
Like Etzel I don't agree - 17/06/2010 08:30:37 PM 1359 Views
I think she's a weak villain - 17/06/2010 08:58:01 PM 1310 Views
Re: I think she's a weak villain - 17/06/2010 09:03:47 PM 1418 Views
Semirhage has done more than anyone since Ishy destroyed the Ten Nations - 18/06/2010 02:06:30 AM 1412 Views
Regarding "Demandred" ... - 17/06/2010 04:51:43 PM 1443 Views
I always thought it was a coincidence - 17/06/2010 08:32:39 PM 1560 Views
Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... - 18/06/2010 12:19:58 AM 1387 Views
Wow. I'm not quite sure where this came from... *NM* - 18/06/2010 05:24:25 PM 723 Views
Re: Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... - 20/06/2010 07:01:55 PM 1508 Views
No, it was supposed to be a joke. - 20/06/2010 07:23:19 PM 1463 Views
Re: No, it was supposed to be a joke. - 21/06/2010 06:36:44 AM 1465 Views
Re: I always thought it was a coincidence - 18/06/2010 05:20:11 PM 1485 Views
Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense - 17/06/2010 06:00:35 PM 1470 Views
Interesting *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:33:03 PM 819 Views
Re: Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense - 18/06/2010 04:23:38 PM 1672 Views
Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... - 18/06/2010 05:28:41 PM 1363 Views
We also have din in Mera'din/Brotherless and far in Far Madding - 18/06/2010 08:16:14 PM 1470 Views
Re: Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... - 20/06/2010 03:56:38 AM 1644 Views
And Dragon translations... - 17/06/2010 10:53:02 PM 1571 Views
Re: And Dragon translations... - 17/06/2010 11:01:25 PM 1398 Views
But of course the NT word for Dragon isn't Dragon - 18/06/2010 05:45:34 PM 1625 Views
Ah yes, that sounds reasonable. *NM* - 18/06/2010 08:28:54 PM 778 Views
If "aman" is the Old Tongue name for Dragon, maybe "DEMANdred" contains a reference to Dragon too... - 20/06/2010 08:13:35 PM 1650 Views
"Dragon Wannabe" *NM* - 20/06/2010 09:23:09 PM 623 Views
Lizard? *NM* - 20/06/2010 10:04:21 PM 807 Views
"Scaled Worm"... though I doubt he'd take that name up in pride . *NM* - 22/06/2010 01:23:03 AM 705 Views
It's probably too much to attempt to guess at the meanings of words... - 17/06/2010 10:58:06 PM 1208 Views
A nice article about the Old Tongue and my ramblings - 18/06/2010 11:14:24 AM 7613 Views

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