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Regarding "Demandred" ... Shishka Send a noteboard - 17/06/2010 04:51:43 PM
... I think it's worth noting the similarity to Moiraine's family name "Damodred". That doesn't really help with guessing a translation, but given the sketchy nature of the Damodred clan, I've always thought it no coincidence that RJ chose a name similar to one of the Forsaken, for them.

Also, just to add a little bit to Dom's comments on Lanfear ... "an" is often used to mean "of the". For example, Shaidar Haran translates to "Hand of the Dark", where "Shaidar" is "Dark" and "Haran" is "Hand of the" ("Har", or perhaps "Hara" meaning "hand" ).

And "Carai an Caldazar" means "For the Honor of the Red Eagle" (Caldazar = Rea Eagle, Carai = Honor, "an" = of the, presumably - "For the" is probably just implied).

So, if Dom's specualtion that "La" means "daughter" is correct, then "Lan" could just be shortened form of "La-an", meaning "Daughter of the". In that case, the meaning of "Lan", Nynaeve's guy, may be entirely unrelated.
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Forsaken translations - 17/06/2010 09:16:36 AM 2438 Views
Yeah... - 17/06/2010 09:31:15 AM 1716 Views
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You are right... - 17/06/2010 11:31:05 AM 1616 Views
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Gaidin = Brother to Battle ... which is what I think the OP meant to use - 17/06/2010 09:32:20 PM 1279 Views
Presumably he meant "Dai Shan", or "Battle Lord", as he said. - 17/06/2010 10:37:07 PM 1364 Views
or that *NM* - 17/06/2010 10:45:49 PM 790 Views
About Aginor - 17/06/2010 12:50:04 PM 1800 Views
Great! - 17/06/2010 02:11:47 PM 1488 Views
Some Old Tongue translations - 17/06/2010 01:34:18 PM 1399 Views
ah Thanks! *NM* - 17/06/2010 02:12:00 PM 790 Views
Good luck with that - 17/06/2010 02:36:36 PM 1476 Views
Re: Good luck with that - 17/06/2010 03:24:52 PM 1308 Views
Very interesting! - 17/06/2010 08:34:36 PM 1413 Views
As always, - 20/06/2010 02:25:07 PM 1293 Views
I always thought Lanfear probably translated to something closer to a Moon translation - 17/06/2010 02:43:04 PM 1602 Views
it's the other way around... - 17/06/2010 02:58:33 PM 1350 Views
good point - 17/06/2010 03:13:17 PM 1337 Views
Re: good point - 17/06/2010 04:05:50 PM 1406 Views
Not to mention she STILL hasn't earned a 3rd (or in 4th) name - 17/06/2010 04:16:57 PM 1383 Views
What about Cyndane - 17/06/2010 04:48:03 PM 1273 Views
It must be her favorite one, since it's the only one she actually earned *NM* - 17/06/2010 05:43:41 PM 708 Views
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HA! But technically I think her mother earned that *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:58:30 PM 621 Views
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Tee hee ... I'd credit her father on that one *NM* - 17/06/2010 09:31:19 PM 747 Views
Re: good point - 17/06/2010 04:47:01 PM 1438 Views
Again, a self-proclaimed ownership aimed at making her seem more impressive - 17/06/2010 05:55:12 PM 1312 Views
I disagree - 17/06/2010 06:20:08 PM 1405 Views
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Re: Personally I think that order was off the cuff - 17/06/2010 09:02:06 PM 1481 Views
Disagree - 17/06/2010 09:28:51 PM 1403 Views
Re: Disagree - 17/06/2010 09:41:23 PM 1348 Views
I'm not being very clear - 17/06/2010 10:14:10 PM 1366 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 08:06:56 AM 3789 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 03:33:12 PM 1369 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 04:35:12 PM 1226 Views
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your own examples show only OP prowess though! - 18/06/2010 06:54:38 PM 1472 Views
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The statement makes clear that those 6 were all quite impressive - 17/06/2010 10:51:49 PM 1182 Views
I don't see that bearing out in the text at all - 17/06/2010 10:57:36 PM 1378 Views
Well, with this point I don't disagree.. *NM* - 17/06/2010 11:10:34 PM 1276 Views
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Lanfear's motives were never Shadow-driven - 20/06/2010 06:47:22 PM 1410 Views
not ballsy, just psycho - 20/06/2010 07:25:46 PM 1399 Views
Like Etzel I don't agree - 17/06/2010 08:30:37 PM 1267 Views
I think she's a weak villain - 17/06/2010 08:58:01 PM 1236 Views
Re: I think she's a weak villain - 17/06/2010 09:03:47 PM 1338 Views
Semirhage has done more than anyone since Ishy destroyed the Ten Nations - 18/06/2010 02:06:30 AM 1328 Views
Regarding "Demandred" ... - 17/06/2010 04:51:43 PM 1353 Views
I always thought it was a coincidence - 17/06/2010 08:32:39 PM 1469 Views
Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... - 18/06/2010 12:19:58 AM 1303 Views
Wow. I'm not quite sure where this came from... *NM* - 18/06/2010 05:24:25 PM 692 Views
Re: Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... - 20/06/2010 07:01:55 PM 1433 Views
No, it was supposed to be a joke. - 20/06/2010 07:23:19 PM 1368 Views
Re: No, it was supposed to be a joke. - 21/06/2010 06:36:44 AM 1395 Views
Re: I always thought it was a coincidence - 18/06/2010 05:20:11 PM 1396 Views
Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense - 17/06/2010 06:00:35 PM 1361 Views
Interesting *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:33:03 PM 775 Views
Re: Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense - 18/06/2010 04:23:38 PM 1590 Views
Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... - 18/06/2010 05:28:41 PM 1286 Views
We also have din in Mera'din/Brotherless and far in Far Madding - 18/06/2010 08:16:14 PM 1385 Views
Re: Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... - 20/06/2010 03:56:38 AM 1550 Views
And Dragon translations... - 17/06/2010 10:53:02 PM 1482 Views
Re: And Dragon translations... - 17/06/2010 11:01:25 PM 1309 Views
But of course the NT word for Dragon isn't Dragon - 18/06/2010 05:45:34 PM 1546 Views
Ah yes, that sounds reasonable. *NM* - 18/06/2010 08:28:54 PM 740 Views
If "aman" is the Old Tongue name for Dragon, maybe "DEMANdred" contains a reference to Dragon too... - 20/06/2010 08:13:35 PM 1565 Views
"Dragon Wannabe" *NM* - 20/06/2010 09:23:09 PM 584 Views
Lizard? *NM* - 20/06/2010 10:04:21 PM 752 Views
"Scaled Worm"... though I doubt he'd take that name up in pride . *NM* - 22/06/2010 01:23:03 AM 677 Views
It's probably too much to attempt to guess at the meanings of words... - 17/06/2010 10:58:06 PM 1115 Views
A nice article about the Old Tongue and my ramblings - 18/06/2010 11:14:24 AM 7533 Views

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