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Gaidin = Brother to Battle ... which is what I think the OP meant to use darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 17/06/2010 09:32:20 PM
Semirhage means Lady of Pain.

But translations may prove difficult. RJ says he has the meanings of all the Forsaken names, it it will no doubt appear in the encyclopedia.

But he also said that he didn't develop a complete Old Tongue language, and that he pretty much used words as and when necessary.

So we might well see a situation where the actual syllables and meaning of a Forsaken name don't match up as far as the Old Tongue is concerned, or contradicts other uses of the same phrase.

Demandred might be "Lord of Hate" but something like Lord may already have been given as the "Gai" in Gai' shain, which means Battle Lord or something.

This is a stupid example, and may be totally incorrect, as I can't actually remember exactly what Gai Shain means, but I think you see the point I'm trying to make.


Just a small tidbit.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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Forsaken translations - 17/06/2010 09:16:36 AM 2391 Views
Yeah... - 17/06/2010 09:31:15 AM 1675 Views
Semirhage is named as "The Lady of Pain" in KoD, by Rand... - 17/06/2010 11:14:56 AM 2022 Views
You are right... - 17/06/2010 11:31:05 AM 1582 Views
Do Semirhage & Bel'al actually mean those things or are they other nicknames? - 17/06/2010 11:38:18 AM 1482 Views
On Be'lal - 17/06/2010 11:42:31 AM 1346 Views
Nice ideas! - 17/06/2010 02:10:43 PM 1477 Views
Gai'shain = those sworn to peace in battle - 17/06/2010 09:22:02 PM 1317 Views
Gaidin = Brother to Battle ... which is what I think the OP meant to use - 17/06/2010 09:32:20 PM 1244 Views
Presumably he meant "Dai Shan", or "Battle Lord", as he said. - 17/06/2010 10:37:07 PM 1321 Views
or that *NM* - 17/06/2010 10:45:49 PM 760 Views
About Aginor - 17/06/2010 12:50:04 PM 1763 Views
Great! - 17/06/2010 02:11:47 PM 1434 Views
Some Old Tongue translations - 17/06/2010 01:34:18 PM 1362 Views
ah Thanks! *NM* - 17/06/2010 02:12:00 PM 772 Views
Good luck with that - 17/06/2010 02:36:36 PM 1395 Views
Re: Good luck with that - 17/06/2010 03:24:52 PM 1273 Views
Very interesting! - 17/06/2010 08:34:36 PM 1353 Views
As always, - 20/06/2010 02:25:07 PM 1240 Views
I always thought Lanfear probably translated to something closer to a Moon translation - 17/06/2010 02:43:04 PM 1547 Views
it's the other way around... - 17/06/2010 02:58:33 PM 1302 Views
good point - 17/06/2010 03:13:17 PM 1303 Views
Re: good point - 17/06/2010 04:05:50 PM 1360 Views
Not to mention she STILL hasn't earned a 3rd (or in 4th) name - 17/06/2010 04:16:57 PM 1335 Views
What about Cyndane - 17/06/2010 04:48:03 PM 1227 Views
It must be her favorite one, since it's the only one she actually earned *NM* - 17/06/2010 05:43:41 PM 688 Views
Well she earned Mierin *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:27:05 PM 830 Views
how so? I figured mom and dad gave that one too her *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 703 Views
she earned it by being born... ha! gotcha *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:39:10 PM 666 Views
HA! But technically I think her mother earned that *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:58:30 PM 600 Views
well she earned Eronaile by virtue of her genetics *NM* - 17/06/2010 09:04:36 PM 681 Views
Tee hee ... I'd credit her father on that one *NM* - 17/06/2010 09:31:19 PM 728 Views
Re: good point - 17/06/2010 04:47:01 PM 1392 Views
Again, a self-proclaimed ownership aimed at making her seem more impressive - 17/06/2010 05:55:12 PM 1263 Views
I disagree - 17/06/2010 06:20:08 PM 1363 Views
Personally I think that order was off the cuff - 17/06/2010 08:55:28 PM 1496 Views
Re: Personally I think that order was off the cuff - 17/06/2010 09:02:06 PM 1451 Views
Disagree - 17/06/2010 09:28:51 PM 1379 Views
Re: Disagree - 17/06/2010 09:41:23 PM 1319 Views
I'm not being very clear - 17/06/2010 10:14:10 PM 1336 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 08:06:56 AM 3752 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 03:33:12 PM 1336 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 04:35:12 PM 1188 Views
The point isn't if Lanfear has the skill, it's that it was poorly shown. - 18/06/2010 05:31:11 PM 1336 Views
I think it's shown well - 18/06/2010 06:10:55 PM 1496 Views
your own examples show only OP prowess though! - 18/06/2010 06:54:38 PM 1438 Views
How can you say Semirhage didn't achieve anything? - 18/06/2010 01:59:44 AM 1388 Views
I'm partial to Sammael myself. - 18/06/2010 02:24:49 AM 1184 Views
The statement makes clear that those 6 were all quite impressive - 17/06/2010 10:51:49 PM 1148 Views
I don't see that bearing out in the text at all - 17/06/2010 10:57:36 PM 1350 Views
Well, with this point I don't disagree.. *NM* - 17/06/2010 11:10:34 PM 1243 Views
- 17/06/2010 11:12:58 PM 1341 Views
Lanfear's motives were never Shadow-driven - 20/06/2010 06:47:22 PM 1362 Views
not ballsy, just psycho - 20/06/2010 07:25:46 PM 1360 Views
Like Etzel I don't agree - 17/06/2010 08:30:37 PM 1216 Views
I think she's a weak villain - 17/06/2010 08:58:01 PM 1194 Views
Re: I think she's a weak villain - 17/06/2010 09:03:47 PM 1296 Views
Semirhage has done more than anyone since Ishy destroyed the Ten Nations - 18/06/2010 02:06:30 AM 1281 Views
Regarding "Demandred" ... - 17/06/2010 04:51:43 PM 1300 Views
I always thought it was a coincidence - 17/06/2010 08:32:39 PM 1428 Views
Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... - 18/06/2010 12:19:58 AM 1255 Views
Wow. I'm not quite sure where this came from... *NM* - 18/06/2010 05:24:25 PM 669 Views
Re: Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... - 20/06/2010 07:01:55 PM 1402 Views
No, it was supposed to be a joke. - 20/06/2010 07:23:19 PM 1332 Views
Re: No, it was supposed to be a joke. - 21/06/2010 06:36:44 AM 1360 Views
Re: I always thought it was a coincidence - 18/06/2010 05:20:11 PM 1351 Views
Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense - 17/06/2010 06:00:35 PM 1321 Views
Interesting *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:33:03 PM 756 Views
Re: Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense - 18/06/2010 04:23:38 PM 1535 Views
Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... - 18/06/2010 05:28:41 PM 1247 Views
We also have din in Mera'din/Brotherless and far in Far Madding - 18/06/2010 08:16:14 PM 1349 Views
Re: Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... - 20/06/2010 03:56:38 AM 1495 Views
And Dragon translations... - 17/06/2010 10:53:02 PM 1427 Views
Re: And Dragon translations... - 17/06/2010 11:01:25 PM 1280 Views
But of course the NT word for Dragon isn't Dragon - 18/06/2010 05:45:34 PM 1495 Views
Ah yes, that sounds reasonable. *NM* - 18/06/2010 08:28:54 PM 718 Views
If "aman" is the Old Tongue name for Dragon, maybe "DEMANdred" contains a reference to Dragon too... - 20/06/2010 08:13:35 PM 1524 Views
"Dragon Wannabe" *NM* - 20/06/2010 09:23:09 PM 557 Views
Lizard? *NM* - 20/06/2010 10:04:21 PM 729 Views
"Scaled Worm"... though I doubt he'd take that name up in pride . *NM* - 22/06/2010 01:23:03 AM 651 Views
It's probably too much to attempt to guess at the meanings of words... - 17/06/2010 10:58:06 PM 1073 Views
A nice article about the Old Tongue and my ramblings - 18/06/2010 11:14:24 AM 7489 Views

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