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Gaidin = Brother to Battle ... which is what I think the OP meant to use darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 17/06/2010 09:32:20 PM
Semirhage means Lady of Pain.

But translations may prove difficult. RJ says he has the meanings of all the Forsaken names, it it will no doubt appear in the encyclopedia.

But he also said that he didn't develop a complete Old Tongue language, and that he pretty much used words as and when necessary.

So we might well see a situation where the actual syllables and meaning of a Forsaken name don't match up as far as the Old Tongue is concerned, or contradicts other uses of the same phrase.

Demandred might be "Lord of Hate" but something like Lord may already have been given as the "Gai" in Gai' shain, which means Battle Lord or something.

This is a stupid example, and may be totally incorrect, as I can't actually remember exactly what Gai Shain means, but I think you see the point I'm trying to make.


Just a small tidbit.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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Forsaken translations - 17/06/2010 09:16:36 AM 2328 Views
Yeah... - 17/06/2010 09:31:15 AM 1621 Views
Semirhage is named as "The Lady of Pain" in KoD, by Rand... - 17/06/2010 11:14:56 AM 1963 Views
You are right... - 17/06/2010 11:31:05 AM 1529 Views
Do Semirhage & Bel'al actually mean those things or are they other nicknames? - 17/06/2010 11:38:18 AM 1382 Views
On Be'lal - 17/06/2010 11:42:31 AM 1290 Views
Nice ideas! - 17/06/2010 02:10:43 PM 1424 Views
Gai'shain = those sworn to peace in battle - 17/06/2010 09:22:02 PM 1260 Views
Gaidin = Brother to Battle ... which is what I think the OP meant to use - 17/06/2010 09:32:20 PM 1194 Views
Presumably he meant "Dai Shan", or "Battle Lord", as he said. - 17/06/2010 10:37:07 PM 1268 Views
or that *NM* - 17/06/2010 10:45:49 PM 729 Views
About Aginor - 17/06/2010 12:50:04 PM 1692 Views
Great! - 17/06/2010 02:11:47 PM 1375 Views
Some Old Tongue translations - 17/06/2010 01:34:18 PM 1298 Views
ah Thanks! *NM* - 17/06/2010 02:12:00 PM 739 Views
Good luck with that - 17/06/2010 02:36:36 PM 1338 Views
Re: Good luck with that - 17/06/2010 03:24:52 PM 1193 Views
Very interesting! - 17/06/2010 08:34:36 PM 1282 Views
As always, - 20/06/2010 02:25:07 PM 1186 Views
I always thought Lanfear probably translated to something closer to a Moon translation - 17/06/2010 02:43:04 PM 1487 Views
it's the other way around... - 17/06/2010 02:58:33 PM 1248 Views
good point - 17/06/2010 03:13:17 PM 1253 Views
Re: good point - 17/06/2010 04:05:50 PM 1306 Views
Not to mention she STILL hasn't earned a 3rd (or in 4th) name - 17/06/2010 04:16:57 PM 1285 Views
What about Cyndane - 17/06/2010 04:48:03 PM 1179 Views
It must be her favorite one, since it's the only one she actually earned *NM* - 17/06/2010 05:43:41 PM 652 Views
Well she earned Mierin *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:27:05 PM 803 Views
how so? I figured mom and dad gave that one too her *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 677 Views
she earned it by being born... ha! gotcha *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:39:10 PM 641 Views
HA! But technically I think her mother earned that *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:58:30 PM 568 Views
well she earned Eronaile by virtue of her genetics *NM* - 17/06/2010 09:04:36 PM 652 Views
Tee hee ... I'd credit her father on that one *NM* - 17/06/2010 09:31:19 PM 701 Views
Re: good point - 17/06/2010 04:47:01 PM 1313 Views
Again, a self-proclaimed ownership aimed at making her seem more impressive - 17/06/2010 05:55:12 PM 1205 Views
I disagree - 17/06/2010 06:20:08 PM 1305 Views
Personally I think that order was off the cuff - 17/06/2010 08:55:28 PM 1419 Views
Re: Personally I think that order was off the cuff - 17/06/2010 09:02:06 PM 1393 Views
Disagree - 17/06/2010 09:28:51 PM 1324 Views
Re: Disagree - 17/06/2010 09:41:23 PM 1267 Views
I'm not being very clear - 17/06/2010 10:14:10 PM 1274 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 08:06:56 AM 3649 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 03:33:12 PM 1288 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 04:35:12 PM 1132 Views
The point isn't if Lanfear has the skill, it's that it was poorly shown. - 18/06/2010 05:31:11 PM 1282 Views
I think it's shown well - 18/06/2010 06:10:55 PM 1390 Views
your own examples show only OP prowess though! - 18/06/2010 06:54:38 PM 1387 Views
How can you say Semirhage didn't achieve anything? - 18/06/2010 01:59:44 AM 1334 Views
I'm partial to Sammael myself. - 18/06/2010 02:24:49 AM 1132 Views
The statement makes clear that those 6 were all quite impressive - 17/06/2010 10:51:49 PM 1105 Views
I don't see that bearing out in the text at all - 17/06/2010 10:57:36 PM 1289 Views
Well, with this point I don't disagree.. *NM* - 17/06/2010 11:10:34 PM 1151 Views
- 17/06/2010 11:12:58 PM 1283 Views
Lanfear's motives were never Shadow-driven - 20/06/2010 06:47:22 PM 1301 Views
not ballsy, just psycho - 20/06/2010 07:25:46 PM 1289 Views
Like Etzel I don't agree - 17/06/2010 08:30:37 PM 1166 Views
I think she's a weak villain - 17/06/2010 08:58:01 PM 1139 Views
Re: I think she's a weak villain - 17/06/2010 09:03:47 PM 1230 Views
Semirhage has done more than anyone since Ishy destroyed the Ten Nations - 18/06/2010 02:06:30 AM 1229 Views
Regarding "Demandred" ... - 17/06/2010 04:51:43 PM 1243 Views
I always thought it was a coincidence - 17/06/2010 08:32:39 PM 1366 Views
Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... - 18/06/2010 12:19:58 AM 1202 Views
Wow. I'm not quite sure where this came from... *NM* - 18/06/2010 05:24:25 PM 637 Views
Re: Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... - 20/06/2010 07:01:55 PM 1355 Views
No, it was supposed to be a joke. - 20/06/2010 07:23:19 PM 1260 Views
Re: No, it was supposed to be a joke. - 21/06/2010 06:36:44 AM 1304 Views
Re: I always thought it was a coincidence - 18/06/2010 05:20:11 PM 1290 Views
Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense - 17/06/2010 06:00:35 PM 1251 Views
Interesting *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:33:03 PM 724 Views
Re: Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense - 18/06/2010 04:23:38 PM 1475 Views
Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... - 18/06/2010 05:28:41 PM 1194 Views
We also have din in Mera'din/Brotherless and far in Far Madding - 18/06/2010 08:16:14 PM 1292 Views
Re: Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... - 20/06/2010 03:56:38 AM 1441 Views
And Dragon translations... - 17/06/2010 10:53:02 PM 1358 Views
Re: And Dragon translations... - 17/06/2010 11:01:25 PM 1228 Views
But of course the NT word for Dragon isn't Dragon - 18/06/2010 05:45:34 PM 1437 Views
Ah yes, that sounds reasonable. *NM* - 18/06/2010 08:28:54 PM 687 Views
If "aman" is the Old Tongue name for Dragon, maybe "DEMANdred" contains a reference to Dragon too... - 20/06/2010 08:13:35 PM 1470 Views
"Dragon Wannabe" *NM* - 20/06/2010 09:23:09 PM 525 Views
Lizard? *NM* - 20/06/2010 10:04:21 PM 699 Views
"Scaled Worm"... though I doubt he'd take that name up in pride . *NM* - 22/06/2010 01:23:03 AM 618 Views
It's probably too much to attempt to guess at the meanings of words... - 17/06/2010 10:58:06 PM 999 Views
A nice article about the Old Tongue and my ramblings - 18/06/2010 11:14:24 AM 7445 Views

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