I think Aran'gar was Slayer's mystery employer in WH ...
Shishka Send a noteboard - 22/06/2010 04:17:27 PM
She has personal reason for wanting Rand dead, given what happened to Balthamel at the Eye, and Rand's role there.
She channels saidin, fitting Slayer's opinion of his employer. Of course, we can't be sure Slayer's opinion was correct, but I feel pretty confident that RJ gave us accurate information in that particular case. Just as he did when he had Elayne conclude that Adeleas' murderer had to have been one of the 3 Aes Sedai in their group (Merilille, Sareitha, or Careane).
Aran'gar may have had good reason to hide her identity from Slayer, more so than the other Forsaken. At the time, Slayer may not have known of the 'gars existence, in which case he would likely not have obeyed her had she appeared to him as Aran'gar. The other Forsaken (aside from Osan'gar, who would have been in the same potential position) shouldn't have felt as strong a need to hide their identity, since Moridin lifted the ban on killing Rand in the Tea Party scene earlier in the book.
In her PoV chapter in KoD, Aran'gar thinks about how the Sammael impersonator was playing her game. And while that's not exactly what Slayer's employer did (i.e. the employer didn't impersonate a Forsaken, he just disguised his identity), it does indicate that Aran'gar is sneeky in her dealings with other Shadow agents, as was Slayer's employer.
Also, in the same chapter, Aran'gar made it clear that she had her own plans for killing Rand, fitting with Slayer's employer.
Many of the arguments above can be used to support Osan'gar as a candidate for Slayer's employer, but since Osan'gar died shortly after the scene, I think Aran'gar is the more likely suspect. Demandred is the only other viable suspect, I think, if we assume Slayer was right about the employer channeling saidin. But I think he's the least likely candidate, of the three, mostly because if it was he who ordered the DF Asha'man to kill Rand after the failed first attempt (see below), he didn't feel the need to hide his identity then, so why hide his identity with Slayer?
I've also seen it suggested that it was Aran'gar disguised as Demandred (not Demandred himself) who ordered the DF Ashaman to kill Rand after the failed first attempt, because of Aran'gar's thoughts about how Sammael's impersonator was playing her game. It's possible, but I think it's more likely that it was Demandred himself who did that. We know he and Osan'gar were supposed to be hunting down Rand after that failed attempt, so it would seem Demandred was in a better position to find and order those DF Asha'man than Aran'gar.
She channels saidin, fitting Slayer's opinion of his employer. Of course, we can't be sure Slayer's opinion was correct, but I feel pretty confident that RJ gave us accurate information in that particular case. Just as he did when he had Elayne conclude that Adeleas' murderer had to have been one of the 3 Aes Sedai in their group (Merilille, Sareitha, or Careane).
Aran'gar may have had good reason to hide her identity from Slayer, more so than the other Forsaken. At the time, Slayer may not have known of the 'gars existence, in which case he would likely not have obeyed her had she appeared to him as Aran'gar. The other Forsaken (aside from Osan'gar, who would have been in the same potential position) shouldn't have felt as strong a need to hide their identity, since Moridin lifted the ban on killing Rand in the Tea Party scene earlier in the book.
In her PoV chapter in KoD, Aran'gar thinks about how the Sammael impersonator was playing her game. And while that's not exactly what Slayer's employer did (i.e. the employer didn't impersonate a Forsaken, he just disguised his identity), it does indicate that Aran'gar is sneeky in her dealings with other Shadow agents, as was Slayer's employer.
Also, in the same chapter, Aran'gar made it clear that she had her own plans for killing Rand, fitting with Slayer's employer.
Many of the arguments above can be used to support Osan'gar as a candidate for Slayer's employer, but since Osan'gar died shortly after the scene, I think Aran'gar is the more likely suspect. Demandred is the only other viable suspect, I think, if we assume Slayer was right about the employer channeling saidin. But I think he's the least likely candidate, of the three, mostly because if it was he who ordered the DF Asha'man to kill Rand after the failed first attempt (see below), he didn't feel the need to hide his identity then, so why hide his identity with Slayer?
I've also seen it suggested that it was Aran'gar disguised as Demandred (not Demandred himself) who ordered the DF Ashaman to kill Rand after the failed first attempt, because of Aran'gar's thoughts about how Sammael's impersonator was playing her game. It's possible, but I think it's more likely that it was Demandred himself who did that. We know he and Osan'gar were supposed to be hunting down Rand after that failed attempt, so it would seem Demandred was in a better position to find and order those DF Asha'man than Aran'gar.
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Character discussion 7 : Aran'gar/Balthamel
- 22/06/2010 02:40:07 PM
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The Forsaken most likely to acquire an STD ...
- 22/06/2010 03:34:41 PM
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Are you serious?... more than Graendal?
- 22/06/2010 05:45:54 PM
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Graendal strikes me as a voyeur - she likes to watch more than actively participate, I suspect.
*NM*
- 22/06/2010 05:49:15 PM
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*NM*
- 22/06/2010 05:49:15 PM
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Also, Graendal is much more picky in her conquests, I suspect ...
- 22/06/2010 06:07:08 PM
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but seriously, what is that based on?
- 22/06/2010 07:27:42 PM
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Makes sense to me
- 23/06/2010 05:02:47 AM
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I think Aran'gar was Slayer's mystery employer in WH ...
- 22/06/2010 04:17:27 PM
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Yeah, I suggested that Aran'gar posed as Demandred
- 22/06/2010 04:54:59 PM
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The TGS quote is a good point ...
- 22/06/2010 05:27:59 PM
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I think the patron's identity might be something that RJ not necessarily wanted to reveal. *NM*
- 22/06/2010 06:42:24 PM
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There's some evidence against that, though
- 22/06/2010 05:47:34 PM
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I think Aran'gar wouldn't directly confront Demandred
- 22/06/2010 06:41:33 PM
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Still risky though
- 22/06/2010 07:29:32 PM
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Osan'gar has GUTS???
- 26/06/2010 03:47:29 PM
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Of course he has guts
- 04/07/2010 10:16:16 AM
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If I was a badass Forsaken with enough power to go toe to toe with him YES
- 04/07/2010 02:49:54 PM
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What will be her next task?
- 22/06/2010 05:01:37 PM
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He's more fit to sweep up after others' mistakes - maybe his next task will be with Tuon?
- 22/06/2010 05:20:37 PM
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Re: He's more fit to sweep up after others' mistakes - maybe his next task will be with Tuon?
- 22/06/2010 05:45:40 PM
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I like this idea to infiltrate the Seanchan as well
- 22/06/2010 06:37:39 PM
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Wolves can sense channelers - the wolves knew Egwene was different, remember?
- 22/06/2010 07:37:52 PM
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Maybe Aran'gar rather hides among the 100.000, i.e. she would be hard to discover
- 23/06/2010 08:59:09 AM
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One of the weakest and least capable of the Forsaken we've seen
- 22/06/2010 05:16:13 PM
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Are you sure?
- 22/06/2010 05:44:26 PM
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It's not about dismissing her lightly - it has more to do with being accurate with an assessment
- 22/06/2010 05:49:17 PM
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LOL!!! *NM*