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Re: My idea Demortae Send a noteboard - 25/06/2010 04:26:47 PM
Personally, I think it should be possible to Unravel the Bore, maybe with Callandor. Basically, the Bore is nothing else than a special, gigantic Gateway drilled with the OP through the Pattern to the DO. We also know from Demandred that one can only sense the Bore in the Pit of Doom, which implies that it is some kind of weave and explains why Rand has to enter the Pit.

If the Bore is such a special Gateway-weave, it should be possible to Unravel it like you can Unravel other weaves (of course this was unknown in the AoL, which explains LTT's failure and Moridin's horror about this discovery). Alviarin demonstrated this in PoD and might provide Rand with a clue. The seals have to vanish (clear the rubble before you can build), because they basically block that the Bore is affected from Randland (while the DO can gradually make the Bore larger, especially by weakening the Pattern through chaos).

It's also interesting that only LTT/Rand and Demandred are able to block a Gateway.

However, I also think that Rand's special blood might somehow literally play a part, because of the Prophecies and since we know that blood can have some effects in the Pit of Doom (e.g. in mindtrapping someone).


A great notion, using the already set rules of Jordan's magic system, and requiring a very lengthy amount of time, thus justifying the need of armies much as the channelers at the cleansing were needed.

How much harder would it be to unravel a weave of both Saidin and Saidar? This would certainly justify the importance of Callandor and the 3 become one bits.

We will have no idea until it is written, but this is the most logical, and perhaps the most exciting speculation I've seen.
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How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself? - 25/06/2010 01:00:35 AM 1703 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself? - 25/06/2010 04:18:42 AM 940 Views
.. *NM* - 25/06/2010 05:38:14 AM 500 Views
Mierin thought they had found a new source of power, not of THE power. - 25/06/2010 05:40:27 PM 969 Views
Why can't the Pattern be the Prison? - 25/06/2010 05:52:31 AM 1017 Views
Here's a theory I had posted on wotmania - 25/06/2010 06:16:07 AM 1041 Views
I told you this about 4 years ago, but your nickname is AWESOME *NM* - 25/06/2010 01:21:24 PM 469 Views
Thanks *NM* - 25/06/2010 01:44:35 PM 465 Views
Aiel Reluctance to Enter T'A'R in the flesh - 25/06/2010 02:12:01 PM 943 Views
Nice catch! - 25/06/2010 04:28:08 PM 895 Views
My idea - 25/06/2010 09:37:32 AM 890 Views
Re: My idea - 25/06/2010 04:26:47 PM 830 Views
If the Bore is like a Gateway... - 25/06/2010 06:19:44 PM 980 Views
Pretty good thought about the conduit-comparison! - 26/06/2010 07:34:16 AM 825 Views
Re: My idea - 25/06/2010 06:44:31 PM 914 Views
The very name "Bore"... - 26/06/2010 07:25:22 AM 869 Views
Actually I think he pretty much backed DomA's opinion - 26/06/2010 08:30:42 AM 779 Views
Well, as said, I disagree. - 26/06/2010 08:43:40 AM 847 Views
Well here's what I think - 26/06/2010 11:18:33 AM 1099 Views
Look... - 26/06/2010 11:43:25 AM 818 Views
Re: Look... - 26/06/2010 01:04:53 PM 887 Views
That's wrong... - 26/06/2010 01:26:25 PM 1008 Views
You're ignoring basic facts - 26/06/2010 02:44:38 PM 856 Views
Again... - 26/06/2010 02:53:05 PM 868 Views
Re: Again... - 26/06/2010 03:30:20 PM 879 Views
Yeah.... - 26/06/2010 04:54:50 PM 897 Views
It's absurd. Your idea is clearly wrong, but ok... *NM* - 26/06/2010 05:00:43 PM 796 Views
After reading through the back and forth, I am convinced of this: - 26/06/2010 05:33:21 PM 992 Views
Re: After reading through the back and forth, I am convinced of this: - 27/06/2010 06:20:32 PM 1034 Views
Could the Bore have been drilled using balefire? - 02/07/2010 12:07:33 AM 844 Views
it's the same principle as shielding a channeler - 26/06/2010 06:06:04 PM 905 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? - 25/06/2010 03:37:25 PM 738 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? - 25/06/2010 04:12:08 PM 852 Views
I tend to agree with you - 25/06/2010 05:53:53 PM 901 Views
Maybe they can plug the Bore with garbage like British Petroleum. *NM* - 25/06/2010 05:43:41 PM 478 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself? - 25/06/2010 05:59:38 PM 1025 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself? - 25/06/2010 06:55:28 PM 856 Views
me too ! - 25/06/2010 10:34:41 PM 884 Views
Ah, thanks to both of you - 26/06/2010 12:38:14 AM 1025 Views
Re: Ah, thanks to both of you - 26/06/2010 03:18:47 AM 910 Views
Callandor may be able to channel 'order' via ta'veren - 26/06/2010 12:48:18 AM 1011 Views
additional thought on the DO's place in the WoT symbols - 26/06/2010 05:44:06 AM 853 Views
Re: additional thought on the DO's place in the WoT symbols - 26/06/2010 05:23:16 PM 730 Views
You mix up - 27/06/2010 06:31:27 PM 769 Views
good point - 02/07/2010 05:52:49 PM 1161 Views
duct tape *NM* - 26/06/2010 11:17:54 AM 426 Views
Re: duct tape - 26/06/2010 05:41:56 PM 785 Views
I always figured Egwene and Rand would have to work together. - 29/06/2010 08:26:45 PM 960 Views
Re: I always figured Egwene and Rand would have to work together. - 29/06/2010 10:17:59 PM 766 Views
Maybe saidar and saidin, woven together properly, form something else? - 01/07/2010 11:50:40 PM 797 Views

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