The Aiel's insistance is not baseless. They know why they say it is evil.
CatherineSedai Send a noteboard - 25/06/2010 06:01:08 PM
There were Aiel involved in the drilling of the bore. Their, seemingly, baseless insistance that only bad can come from entering T'A'R could be a hangover of forgotten knowledge that opening gateways to T'A'R was part of the process of drilling the bore.
Aiel dreamwalkers frequently refer to the act of entering fully into T'A'R as a thing of the shadow.
Aiel dreamwalkers frequently refer to the act of entering fully into T'A'R as a thing of the shadow.
They refer to it as a thing of the Shadow because many of the Forsaken would drag people into TAR in the flesh during the War of Power and then (I assume) do bad things to them.
Imagine the ramifications of being nabbed by a Forsaken, dragged through a gateway to who-knows-where, and from there you can be taken anywhere in TAR with a thought. Anything can be done to you from OP weaves to walking nightmares, and there is NO ONE THERE to rescue you. We know how hard it is to find someone specific in TAR unless you have a pre-determined meeting place.
The Wise Ones said that each time you enter TAR in the flesh, you lose a little bit of your human self, but I think that part was derived over a long time from the belief that it was an evil thing to do.
The Shadow Rising - Beyond the Stone - Bair speaking to Egwene
"I will now tell you about dremwalking and Tel'aran'rhiod, in a very general way.... For one who is fully in the dream, dreamwalker or not, death there is death here. To enter the dream too completely, though, is to lose touch with the flesh; there is no way back, and the flesh dies. It is said that once there were those who could enter the dream in the flesh, and no longer be in this world at all. This was an evil thing, for they did evil; it must never be attempted, even if you believe it possible for you, for each time you will lose some part of what makes you human."
I always say, if you must mount the gallows, give a jest to the crowd, a coin to the hangman, and make the drop with a smile on your lips. ~Birgitte
This message last edited by CatherineSedai on 29/06/2010 at 09:22:27 PM
How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself?
- 25/06/2010 01:00:35 AM
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Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself?
- 25/06/2010 04:18:42 AM
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Mierin thought they had found a new source of power, not of THE power.
- 25/06/2010 05:40:27 PM
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Re: Mierin thought they had found a new source of power, not of THE power.
- 30/06/2010 03:18:32 AM
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Here's a theory I had posted on wotmania
- 25/06/2010 06:16:07 AM
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I told you this about 4 years ago, but your nickname is AWESOME *NM*
- 25/06/2010 01:21:24 PM
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Aiel Reluctance to Enter T'A'R in the flesh
- 25/06/2010 02:12:01 PM
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The Aiel's insistance is not baseless. They know why they say it is evil.
- 25/06/2010 06:01:08 PM
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You might be right, but the other idea is far more interesting. *NM*
- 25/06/2010 10:18:37 PM
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Slayer seems quite inhuman and he's been in TAR in the flesh a lot
- 26/06/2010 04:29:24 AM
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true, but he's also be transformed in some unknown way. Not sure he really counts as human
- 26/06/2010 05:46:46 PM
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My idea
- 25/06/2010 09:37:32 AM
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Re: My idea
- 25/06/2010 06:44:31 PM
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The very name "Bore"...
- 26/06/2010 07:25:22 AM
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Actually I think he pretty much backed DomA's opinion
- 26/06/2010 08:30:42 AM
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Well, as said, I disagree.
- 26/06/2010 08:43:40 AM
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- 26/06/2010 08:43:40 AM
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Well here's what I think
- 26/06/2010 11:18:33 AM
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Look...
- 26/06/2010 11:43:25 AM
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Re: Look...
- 26/06/2010 01:04:53 PM
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That's wrong...
- 26/06/2010 01:26:25 PM
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You're ignoring basic facts
- 26/06/2010 02:44:38 PM
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Again...
- 26/06/2010 02:53:05 PM
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Re: Again...
- 26/06/2010 03:30:20 PM
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No, the Bore was drilled through that specific thinness in the Pattern.
- 26/06/2010 03:54:51 PM
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Yeah....
- 26/06/2010 04:54:50 PM
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After reading through the back and forth, I am convinced of this:
- 26/06/2010 05:33:21 PM
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Re: After reading through the back and forth, I am convinced of this:
- 27/06/2010 06:20:32 PM
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Maybe they can plug the Bore with garbage like British Petroleum.
*NM*
- 25/06/2010 05:43:41 PM
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*NM*
- 25/06/2010 05:43:41 PM
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Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself?
- 25/06/2010 05:59:38 PM
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Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself?
- 25/06/2010 06:55:28 PM
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me too !
- 25/06/2010 10:34:41 PM
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It sounds similar to one of the noisy environmental problem in RJ's time
- 27/06/2010 02:22:27 AM
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Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself?
- 25/06/2010 11:27:18 PM
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I always figured Egwene and Rand would have to work together.
- 29/06/2010 08:26:45 PM
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Re: I always figured Egwene and Rand would have to work together.
- 29/06/2010 10:17:59 PM
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Maybe saidar and saidin, woven together properly, form something else?
- 01/07/2010 11:50:40 PM
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