After reading through the back and forth, I am convinced of this:
bobsledai Send a noteboard - 26/06/2010 05:33:21 PM
The Bore is either an effect of or is itself a weave of the One Power. I am not sure which, because the normal ideas of how the One Power work get murky when considering it is applied to the edges of the Pattern.
After all, what does it mean for there to be a thinness in the Pattern? Does it mean that the Pattern did not exist quite as much as it should? Does it mean that the barriers giving it its shape were failing?
So what does it mean to drill? Does it mean that you get rid of some piece(s) of the Pattern? Does it mean you make a gateway from the inside to the outside?
And how could the Bore have been intended to be small (a finger hole in a prison wall) if it would have a global/universal effect?
I propose that the Bore is not at any specific location in the Pattern because when we talk about location we are talking about three dimensions of space. But the Bore must be something involving other aspects of the Pattern, not space. Other dimensions of existence, perhaps, or something else more abstract.
But this allows for the Bore to be, as I said, either an effect of or an actual weave of the One Power. The weave used to create the Bore could have been localized, though localized not in 3D but some other dimension. This should be possible as the AoL Aes Sedai had dealings with the Finns and Ogier that showed familiarity with extradimensional One Power science.
So I would say the Bore is somewhere specific, just not anywhere in space.
After all, what does it mean for there to be a thinness in the Pattern? Does it mean that the Pattern did not exist quite as much as it should? Does it mean that the barriers giving it its shape were failing?
So what does it mean to drill? Does it mean that you get rid of some piece(s) of the Pattern? Does it mean you make a gateway from the inside to the outside?
And how could the Bore have been intended to be small (a finger hole in a prison wall) if it would have a global/universal effect?
I propose that the Bore is not at any specific location in the Pattern because when we talk about location we are talking about three dimensions of space. But the Bore must be something involving other aspects of the Pattern, not space. Other dimensions of existence, perhaps, or something else more abstract.
But this allows for the Bore to be, as I said, either an effect of or an actual weave of the One Power. The weave used to create the Bore could have been localized, though localized not in 3D but some other dimension. This should be possible as the AoL Aes Sedai had dealings with the Finns and Ogier that showed familiarity with extradimensional One Power science.
So I would say the Bore is somewhere specific, just not anywhere in space.
How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself?
- 25/06/2010 01:00:35 AM
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Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself?
- 25/06/2010 04:18:42 AM
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Mierin thought they had found a new source of power, not of THE power.
- 25/06/2010 05:40:27 PM
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Re: Mierin thought they had found a new source of power, not of THE power.
- 30/06/2010 03:18:32 AM
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Here's a theory I had posted on wotmania
- 25/06/2010 06:16:07 AM
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I told you this about 4 years ago, but your nickname is AWESOME *NM*
- 25/06/2010 01:21:24 PM
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Aiel Reluctance to Enter T'A'R in the flesh
- 25/06/2010 02:12:01 PM
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The Aiel's insistance is not baseless. They know why they say it is evil.
- 25/06/2010 06:01:08 PM
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You might be right, but the other idea is far more interesting. *NM*
- 25/06/2010 10:18:37 PM
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Slayer seems quite inhuman and he's been in TAR in the flesh a lot
- 26/06/2010 04:29:24 AM
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true, but he's also be transformed in some unknown way. Not sure he really counts as human
- 26/06/2010 05:46:46 PM
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My idea
- 25/06/2010 09:37:32 AM
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Re: My idea
- 25/06/2010 06:44:31 PM
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The very name "Bore"...
- 26/06/2010 07:25:22 AM
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Actually I think he pretty much backed DomA's opinion
- 26/06/2010 08:30:42 AM
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Well, as said, I disagree.
- 26/06/2010 08:43:40 AM
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- 26/06/2010 08:43:40 AM
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Well here's what I think
- 26/06/2010 11:18:33 AM
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Look...
- 26/06/2010 11:43:25 AM
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Re: Look...
- 26/06/2010 01:04:53 PM
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That's wrong...
- 26/06/2010 01:26:25 PM
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You're ignoring basic facts
- 26/06/2010 02:44:38 PM
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Again...
- 26/06/2010 02:53:05 PM
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Re: Again...
- 26/06/2010 03:30:20 PM
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No, the Bore was drilled through that specific thinness in the Pattern.
- 26/06/2010 03:54:51 PM
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Yeah....
- 26/06/2010 04:54:50 PM
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After reading through the back and forth, I am convinced of this:
- 26/06/2010 05:33:21 PM
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Re: After reading through the back and forth, I am convinced of this:
- 27/06/2010 06:20:32 PM
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Maybe they can plug the Bore with garbage like British Petroleum.
*NM*
- 25/06/2010 05:43:41 PM
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*NM*
- 25/06/2010 05:43:41 PM
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Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself?
- 25/06/2010 05:59:38 PM
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Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself?
- 25/06/2010 06:55:28 PM
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me too !
- 25/06/2010 10:34:41 PM
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It sounds similar to one of the noisy environmental problem in RJ's time
- 27/06/2010 02:22:27 AM
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Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself?
- 25/06/2010 11:27:18 PM
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I always figured Egwene and Rand would have to work together.
- 29/06/2010 08:26:45 PM
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Re: I always figured Egwene and Rand would have to work together.
- 29/06/2010 10:17:59 PM
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Maybe saidar and saidin, woven together properly, form something else?
- 01/07/2010 11:50:40 PM
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