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Another good point. Joel Send a noteboard - 29/06/2010 11:43:11 AM
Semi was given the Sad Bracelets by SH.

Shaidar Haran could have conceivably found them, but I still think there was a reason Jordon/Brandon wrote the scene with Bair/Sorilea in.

One thing we know from the same book is that Sorilea is weak in the power but extremely gifted at copying flows she has seen even just once. I therefore find myself suspecting her. I think we'd need to go back through the series and look more closely at Bair and Sorilea's actions before jumping to the DF conclusion though. But this issue has bugged me for quite a while.


This passage has whole new dimensions now that we know what Verin was up to ...

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Sorilea might think she had much to teach them, but they had already learned that an Aes Sedai shawl offered no protection to a Wise One's apprentice. Toh seemed a great deal like penance to Cadsuane.

"She is ... formidable," Verin murmured. "I am very glad she is on our side. If she is."

Cadsuane gave her a sharp look. "You have the appearance of a woman with something to say that you don't want to. About Sorilea?" That alliance was very vaguely denned. Friendship or no friendship, she and the Wise One still might turn out to be aiming at different goals.

Part of my suspicion here is that I was always among those who believed Verin incontrovertibly lied in TGH and strongly believed Sheriam was BA, even before we had explicit and undeniable proof in later books. It's quite clear almost from the start that Jordan intends to make the point that you can't expect even the worst villains to go around wearing a "Team Evil" T-shirt: People we like and respect a great deal are going to turn out to have hearts black as night, just as some we despise will turn out to be among the good guys.
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So, Is Bair a Darkfriend, or Sorilea? - 27/06/2010 09:19:22 AM 3756 Views
Maybe they found it with need? - 27/06/2010 11:28:44 AM 1074 Views
But Semirhage didn't find it. Elsa did, or SH. - 27/06/2010 01:18:52 PM 1381 Views
I brought up the potential for Sorilea in the past - 27/06/2010 03:02:51 PM 1187 Views
Another good point. - 29/06/2010 11:43:11 AM 1153 Views
A good point. - 29/06/2010 11:38:51 AM 939 Views
Re: But Semirhage didn't find it. Elsa did, or SH. - 29/06/2010 09:36:03 PM 1113 Views
yeah, Verin Compelled all the captive AS in the Aiel camp - 29/06/2010 09:41:33 PM 1201 Views
Would that work, I wonder? - 29/06/2010 11:24:42 AM 994 Views
Re: Maybe they found it with need? - 08/07/2010 07:18:04 AM 790 Views
What if it was Shadar Haran that found it? - 27/06/2010 05:01:52 PM 1029 Views
It's possible, but not likely, IMHO. - 29/06/2010 11:46:08 AM 960 Views
Ĵust to point out the obvious... - 27/06/2010 05:58:55 PM 1091 Views
You really think Elza used the TP? - 28/06/2010 05:35:20 AM 903 Views
I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 07:56:10 AM 1026 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 01:48:10 PM 1075 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 06:50:57 PM 1004 Views
I agree - 28/06/2010 10:10:04 PM 1007 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 11:17:19 PM 988 Views
I agree as well - 29/06/2010 09:20:10 AM 905 Views
Sensing the TP - 01/07/2010 07:12:26 AM 809 Views
Re: Sensing the TP - 01/07/2010 08:56:42 AM 767 Views
Physical limitations make sense, BUT...: - 29/06/2010 12:30:33 PM 978 Views
It seems... - 29/06/2010 01:30:17 PM 918 Views
Re: It seems... - 29/06/2010 06:45:19 PM 938 Views
Hmmm.... - 29/06/2010 07:08:30 PM 735 Views
Good points - 29/06/2010 08:16:43 PM 1076 Views
That's a good observation - 29/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 932 Views
Yeah, that would make some sense! *NM* - 30/06/2010 09:59:07 AM 847 Views
Some thoughts - 30/06/2010 12:15:25 PM 824 Views
Elza didn't use the true power - 28/06/2010 05:42:29 AM 900 Views
Re: Elza didn't use the true power - 28/06/2010 01:53:32 PM 1062 Views
It doesn't appear that anything else in her room was searched. - 29/06/2010 12:23:42 PM 880 Views
Re: It doesn't appear that anything else in her room was searched. - 29/06/2010 06:12:14 PM 986 Views
About use of the TP - 29/06/2010 08:59:47 PM 1006 Views
UR WRONG - 27/06/2010 11:09:35 PM 921 Views
AM NOT111 - 29/06/2010 12:32:09 PM 744 Views
I tend to doubt that one of them is a DF - 29/06/2010 09:45:58 AM 800 Views
"Helping" can be a very subjective term. - 29/06/2010 12:37:09 PM 901 Views
Re: "Helping" can be a very subjective term. - 29/06/2010 06:31:11 PM 714 Views
I think it is Sorilea - 29/06/2010 06:40:49 PM 853 Views
Re: I think it is Sorilea - 29/06/2010 07:57:38 PM 923 Views
I like the Melaine theory, but a pregnant WO DF? RJ likes to punish his bad guys too much - 29/06/2010 08:31:01 PM 836 Views
I agree that seems a bit too nasty for RJ - 30/06/2010 08:43:00 AM 857 Views
Re: I like the Melaine theory, but a pregnant WO DF? RJ likes to punish his bad guys too much - 08/07/2010 02:20:32 PM 974 Views
you are likley correct - 08/07/2010 03:09:33 PM 806 Views
Yes, Ingtar - wrong guy lol (posting from work) - 30/06/2010 12:30:54 PM 934 Views

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