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It seems... Etzel Send a noteboard - 29/06/2010 01:30:17 PM
SH can - at least at the moment - only really affect people sworn to the Shadow, according to the following report/Q&A by BS:

Q :You mention that Shaidar Haran has quite a few limitations on his power. Can you give us a few concrete examples of these limitations?
A: Shaidar Haran needs a minion to do most of his work for him. Elza was essential to Shaidar Haran in getting things done.

This lead to lots of discussion about swearing to the Shadow – basically, it’s a very bad idea and you forfeit some very basic protections when you do. Shaidar Haran has special power over those that swear to the Dark One, and the Forsaken in particular. I asked about Alviarin’s special mark, and he said Shaidar Haran has similar power over her. The implication is that there are lots of ramifications for swearing to the Dark One. Brandon mentioned that this makes Verin all the more remarkable.


Likely this will change the more power the DO gets on the world.

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So, Is Bair a Darkfriend, or Sorilea? Joel - 27/06/2010 09:19:22 AM 3969 Views
Maybe they found it with need? Cannoli - 27/06/2010 11:28:44 AM 1279 Views
But Semirhage didn't find it. Elsa did, or SH. Lord Haart - 27/06/2010 01:18:52 PM 1575 Views
I brought up the potential for Sorilea in the past darius_sedai - 27/06/2010 03:02:51 PM 1387 Views
Another good point. Joel - 29/06/2010 11:43:11 AM 1341 Views
A good point. Joel - 29/06/2010 11:38:51 AM 1122 Views
Re: But Semirhage didn't find it. Elsa did, or SH. CatherineSedai - 29/06/2010 09:36:03 PM 1327 Views
yeah, Verin Compelled all the captive AS in the Aiel camp darius_sedai - 29/06/2010 09:41:33 PM 1388 Views
Would that work, I wonder? Joel - 29/06/2010 11:24:42 AM 1222 Views
Re: Maybe they found it with need? CatherineSedai - 08/07/2010 07:18:04 AM 1040 Views
What if it was Shadar Haran that found it? Skeeve the Great - 27/06/2010 05:01:52 PM 1246 Views
It's possible, but not likely, IMHO. Joel - 29/06/2010 11:46:08 AM 1140 Views
Ĵust to point out the obvious... DomA - 27/06/2010 05:58:55 PM 1318 Views
You really think Elza used the TP? darius_sedai - 28/06/2010 05:35:20 AM 1111 Views
I think the chance of that is zero Sidious - 28/06/2010 07:56:10 AM 1254 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero DomA - 28/06/2010 01:48:10 PM 1308 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero Sidious - 28/06/2010 06:50:57 PM 1221 Views
I agree scalius - 28/06/2010 10:10:04 PM 1238 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero DomA - 28/06/2010 11:17:19 PM 1185 Views
I agree as well Etzel - 29/06/2010 09:20:10 AM 1112 Views
Sensing the TP Rurouni_Kenshin - 01/07/2010 07:12:26 AM 1016 Views
Re: Sensing the TP Sidious - 01/07/2010 08:56:42 AM 959 Views
Physical limitations make sense, BUT...: Joel - 29/06/2010 12:30:33 PM 1194 Views
It seems... Etzel - 29/06/2010 01:30:17 PM 1133 Views
Re: It seems... DomA - 29/06/2010 06:45:19 PM 1122 Views
Hmmm.... Etzel - 29/06/2010 07:08:30 PM 942 Views
Good points DomA - 29/06/2010 08:16:43 PM 1323 Views
That's a good observation scalius - 29/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 1124 Views
But there isn't anything magical in the sword preparing process, is there? Lordling - 29/06/2010 09:02:58 PM 973 Views
but the swords wear out over time so it could mean that the effect is only a temporary binding darius_sedai - 29/06/2010 09:07:01 PM 1239 Views
Yeah, that would make some sense! *NM* Etzel - 30/06/2010 09:59:07 AM 1085 Views
Some thoughts Sidious - 30/06/2010 12:15:25 PM 1048 Views
Elza didn't use the true power Timthetrolloc - 28/06/2010 05:42:29 AM 1139 Views
Re: Elza didn't use the true power DomA - 28/06/2010 01:53:32 PM 1291 Views
It doesn't appear that anything else in her room was searched. Joel - 29/06/2010 12:23:42 PM 1125 Views
Re: It doesn't appear that anything else in her room was searched. DomA - 29/06/2010 06:12:14 PM 1211 Views
About use of the TP scalius - 29/06/2010 08:59:47 PM 1233 Views
UR WRONG Deadsy - 27/06/2010 11:09:35 PM 1110 Views
AM NOT111 Joel - 29/06/2010 12:32:09 PM 930 Views
I tend to doubt that one of them is a DF Etzel - 29/06/2010 09:45:58 AM 987 Views
"Helping" can be a very subjective term. Joel - 29/06/2010 12:37:09 PM 1073 Views
Re: "Helping" can be a very subjective term. DomA - 29/06/2010 06:31:11 PM 906 Views
I think it is Sorilea RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/06/2010 06:40:49 PM 1065 Views
Re: I think it is Sorilea DomA - 29/06/2010 07:57:38 PM 1123 Views
I like the Melaine theory, but a pregnant WO DF? RJ likes to punish his bad guys too much darius_sedai - 29/06/2010 08:31:01 PM 1063 Views
I agree that seems a bit too nasty for RJ Etzel - 30/06/2010 08:43:00 AM 1040 Views
Re: I like the Melaine theory, but a pregnant WO DF? RJ likes to punish his bad guys too much DomA - 08/07/2010 02:20:32 PM 1229 Views
you are likley correct darius_sedai - 08/07/2010 03:09:33 PM 1009 Views
Yes, Ingtar - wrong guy lol (posting from work) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 30/06/2010 12:30:54 PM 1175 Views
Perrin comes to mind. Anything to save Faile. He's been DF all alonng! who'd have guessed? *NM* Lohikaarme - 08/07/2010 01:08:24 PM 530 Views
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