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It seems... Etzel Send a noteboard - 29/06/2010 01:30:17 PM
SH can - at least at the moment - only really affect people sworn to the Shadow, according to the following report/Q&A by BS:

Q :You mention that Shaidar Haran has quite a few limitations on his power. Can you give us a few concrete examples of these limitations?
A: Shaidar Haran needs a minion to do most of his work for him. Elza was essential to Shaidar Haran in getting things done.

This lead to lots of discussion about swearing to the Shadow – basically, it’s a very bad idea and you forfeit some very basic protections when you do. Shaidar Haran has special power over those that swear to the Dark One, and the Forsaken in particular. I asked about Alviarin’s special mark, and he said Shaidar Haran has similar power over her. The implication is that there are lots of ramifications for swearing to the Dark One. Brandon mentioned that this makes Verin all the more remarkable.


Likely this will change the more power the DO gets on the world.

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So, Is Bair a Darkfriend, or Sorilea? Joel - 27/06/2010 09:19:22 AM 4008 Views
Maybe they found it with need? Cannoli - 27/06/2010 11:28:44 AM 1305 Views
But Semirhage didn't find it. Elsa did, or SH. Lord Haart - 27/06/2010 01:18:52 PM 1596 Views
I brought up the potential for Sorilea in the past darius_sedai - 27/06/2010 03:02:51 PM 1405 Views
Another good point. Joel - 29/06/2010 11:43:11 AM 1364 Views
A good point. Joel - 29/06/2010 11:38:51 AM 1147 Views
Re: But Semirhage didn't find it. Elsa did, or SH. CatherineSedai - 29/06/2010 09:36:03 PM 1349 Views
yeah, Verin Compelled all the captive AS in the Aiel camp darius_sedai - 29/06/2010 09:41:33 PM 1414 Views
Would that work, I wonder? Joel - 29/06/2010 11:24:42 AM 1242 Views
Re: Maybe they found it with need? CatherineSedai - 08/07/2010 07:18:04 AM 1062 Views
What if it was Shadar Haran that found it? Skeeve the Great - 27/06/2010 05:01:52 PM 1269 Views
It's possible, but not likely, IMHO. Joel - 29/06/2010 11:46:08 AM 1157 Views
Ĵust to point out the obvious... DomA - 27/06/2010 05:58:55 PM 1336 Views
You really think Elza used the TP? darius_sedai - 28/06/2010 05:35:20 AM 1135 Views
I think the chance of that is zero Sidious - 28/06/2010 07:56:10 AM 1292 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero DomA - 28/06/2010 01:48:10 PM 1328 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero Sidious - 28/06/2010 06:50:57 PM 1244 Views
I agree scalius - 28/06/2010 10:10:04 PM 1259 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero DomA - 28/06/2010 11:17:19 PM 1209 Views
I agree as well Etzel - 29/06/2010 09:20:10 AM 1131 Views
Sensing the TP Rurouni_Kenshin - 01/07/2010 07:12:26 AM 1043 Views
Re: Sensing the TP Sidious - 01/07/2010 08:56:42 AM 979 Views
Physical limitations make sense, BUT...: Joel - 29/06/2010 12:30:33 PM 1219 Views
It seems... Etzel - 29/06/2010 01:30:17 PM 1155 Views
Re: It seems... DomA - 29/06/2010 06:45:19 PM 1141 Views
Hmmm.... Etzel - 29/06/2010 07:08:30 PM 966 Views
Good points DomA - 29/06/2010 08:16:43 PM 1344 Views
That's a good observation scalius - 29/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 1143 Views
But there isn't anything magical in the sword preparing process, is there? Lordling - 29/06/2010 09:02:58 PM 991 Views
but the swords wear out over time so it could mean that the effect is only a temporary binding darius_sedai - 29/06/2010 09:07:01 PM 1256 Views
Yeah, that would make some sense! *NM* Etzel - 30/06/2010 09:59:07 AM 1110 Views
Some thoughts Sidious - 30/06/2010 12:15:25 PM 1071 Views
Elza didn't use the true power Timthetrolloc - 28/06/2010 05:42:29 AM 1159 Views
Re: Elza didn't use the true power DomA - 28/06/2010 01:53:32 PM 1311 Views
It doesn't appear that anything else in her room was searched. Joel - 29/06/2010 12:23:42 PM 1153 Views
Re: It doesn't appear that anything else in her room was searched. DomA - 29/06/2010 06:12:14 PM 1234 Views
About use of the TP scalius - 29/06/2010 08:59:47 PM 1255 Views
UR WRONG Deadsy - 27/06/2010 11:09:35 PM 1134 Views
AM NOT111 Joel - 29/06/2010 12:32:09 PM 973 Views
I tend to doubt that one of them is a DF Etzel - 29/06/2010 09:45:58 AM 1009 Views
"Helping" can be a very subjective term. Joel - 29/06/2010 12:37:09 PM 1095 Views
Re: "Helping" can be a very subjective term. DomA - 29/06/2010 06:31:11 PM 946 Views
I think it is Sorilea RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/06/2010 06:40:49 PM 1087 Views
Re: I think it is Sorilea DomA - 29/06/2010 07:57:38 PM 1163 Views
I like the Melaine theory, but a pregnant WO DF? RJ likes to punish his bad guys too much darius_sedai - 29/06/2010 08:31:01 PM 1087 Views
I agree that seems a bit too nasty for RJ Etzel - 30/06/2010 08:43:00 AM 1065 Views
Re: I like the Melaine theory, but a pregnant WO DF? RJ likes to punish his bad guys too much DomA - 08/07/2010 02:20:32 PM 1256 Views
you are likley correct darius_sedai - 08/07/2010 03:09:33 PM 1029 Views
Yes, Ingtar - wrong guy lol (posting from work) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 30/06/2010 12:30:54 PM 1201 Views
Perrin comes to mind. Anything to save Faile. He's been DF all alonng! who'd have guessed? *NM* Lohikaarme - 08/07/2010 01:08:24 PM 544 Views
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