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Another good point. Joel Send a noteboard - 29/06/2010 11:43:11 AM
Semi was given the Sad Bracelets by SH.

Shaidar Haran could have conceivably found them, but I still think there was a reason Jordon/Brandon wrote the scene with Bair/Sorilea in.

One thing we know from the same book is that Sorilea is weak in the power but extremely gifted at copying flows she has seen even just once. I therefore find myself suspecting her. I think we'd need to go back through the series and look more closely at Bair and Sorilea's actions before jumping to the DF conclusion though. But this issue has bugged me for quite a while.


This passage has whole new dimensions now that we know what Verin was up to ...

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Sorilea might think she had much to teach them, but they had already learned that an Aes Sedai shawl offered no protection to a Wise One's apprentice. Toh seemed a great deal like penance to Cadsuane.

"She is ... formidable," Verin murmured. "I am very glad she is on our side. If she is."

Cadsuane gave her a sharp look. "You have the appearance of a woman with something to say that you don't want to. About Sorilea?" That alliance was very vaguely denned. Friendship or no friendship, she and the Wise One still might turn out to be aiming at different goals.

Part of my suspicion here is that I was always among those who believed Verin incontrovertibly lied in TGH and strongly believed Sheriam was BA, even before we had explicit and undeniable proof in later books. It's quite clear almost from the start that Jordan intends to make the point that you can't expect even the worst villains to go around wearing a "Team Evil" T-shirt: People we like and respect a great deal are going to turn out to have hearts black as night, just as some we despise will turn out to be among the good guys.
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So, Is Bair a Darkfriend, or Sorilea? - 27/06/2010 09:19:22 AM 3909 Views
Maybe they found it with need? - 27/06/2010 11:28:44 AM 1236 Views
But Semirhage didn't find it. Elsa did, or SH. - 27/06/2010 01:18:52 PM 1518 Views
I brought up the potential for Sorilea in the past - 27/06/2010 03:02:51 PM 1325 Views
Another good point. - 29/06/2010 11:43:11 AM 1285 Views
A good point. - 29/06/2010 11:38:51 AM 1078 Views
Re: But Semirhage didn't find it. Elsa did, or SH. - 29/06/2010 09:36:03 PM 1268 Views
yeah, Verin Compelled all the captive AS in the Aiel camp - 29/06/2010 09:41:33 PM 1341 Views
Would that work, I wonder? - 29/06/2010 11:24:42 AM 1168 Views
Re: Maybe they found it with need? - 08/07/2010 07:18:04 AM 967 Views
What if it was Shadar Haran that found it? - 27/06/2010 05:01:52 PM 1198 Views
It's possible, but not likely, IMHO. - 29/06/2010 11:46:08 AM 1097 Views
Ĵust to point out the obvious... - 27/06/2010 05:58:55 PM 1261 Views
You really think Elza used the TP? - 28/06/2010 05:35:20 AM 1062 Views
I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 07:56:10 AM 1200 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 01:48:10 PM 1246 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 06:50:57 PM 1168 Views
I agree - 28/06/2010 10:10:04 PM 1175 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 11:17:19 PM 1130 Views
I agree as well - 29/06/2010 09:20:10 AM 1060 Views
Sensing the TP - 01/07/2010 07:12:26 AM 954 Views
Re: Sensing the TP - 01/07/2010 08:56:42 AM 908 Views
Physical limitations make sense, BUT...: - 29/06/2010 12:30:33 PM 1141 Views
It seems... - 29/06/2010 01:30:17 PM 1076 Views
Re: It seems... - 29/06/2010 06:45:19 PM 1070 Views
Hmmm.... - 29/06/2010 07:08:30 PM 899 Views
Good points - 29/06/2010 08:16:43 PM 1263 Views
That's a good observation - 29/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 1072 Views
Yeah, that would make some sense! *NM* - 30/06/2010 09:59:07 AM 1025 Views
Some thoughts - 30/06/2010 12:15:25 PM 975 Views
Elza didn't use the true power - 28/06/2010 05:42:29 AM 1091 Views
Re: Elza didn't use the true power - 28/06/2010 01:53:32 PM 1231 Views
It doesn't appear that anything else in her room was searched. - 29/06/2010 12:23:42 PM 1070 Views
Re: It doesn't appear that anything else in her room was searched. - 29/06/2010 06:12:14 PM 1163 Views
About use of the TP - 29/06/2010 08:59:47 PM 1173 Views
UR WRONG - 27/06/2010 11:09:35 PM 1053 Views
AM NOT111 - 29/06/2010 12:32:09 PM 874 Views
I tend to doubt that one of them is a DF - 29/06/2010 09:45:58 AM 940 Views
"Helping" can be a very subjective term. - 29/06/2010 12:37:09 PM 1023 Views
Re: "Helping" can be a very subjective term. - 29/06/2010 06:31:11 PM 846 Views
I think it is Sorilea - 29/06/2010 06:40:49 PM 1018 Views
Re: I think it is Sorilea - 29/06/2010 07:57:38 PM 1070 Views
I like the Melaine theory, but a pregnant WO DF? RJ likes to punish his bad guys too much - 29/06/2010 08:31:01 PM 1007 Views
I agree that seems a bit too nasty for RJ - 30/06/2010 08:43:00 AM 985 Views
Re: I like the Melaine theory, but a pregnant WO DF? RJ likes to punish his bad guys too much - 08/07/2010 02:20:32 PM 1172 Views
you are likley correct - 08/07/2010 03:09:33 PM 955 Views
Yes, Ingtar - wrong guy lol (posting from work) - 30/06/2010 12:30:54 PM 1106 Views

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