Active Users:455 Time:03/05/2025 01:10:29 AM
good point newyorkersedai Send a noteboard - 02/07/2010 05:52:49 PM
I thought the two dots weren't in the WoT symbols, but sheer force of habit had me include them. Still, I wonder if the DO is somehow "wrapped around" saidin and saidar, and if that plays a part in everything.
Thanks, as always, for your thoughtful and insightful comments, DomA

the Tao and the Aes Sedai symbol.

There is no line, nor dots of the opposite colour in Jordan's symbol.

There is no need for the line, as his two halves cannot mix. A line surrounding the symbol would make this a symbol for Creation and suggest there's something outside, but Jordan doesn't have this line. The symbol specifically excludes any reference to the DO (which the AS didn't even know about before the Bore).

The dots in the tao are linked to harmony/balance of the opposites, they aren't relevant to Jordan's symbolism. It's the two halves as a whole that create this harmony, it doesn't come from a minor saidin/male aspect in the saidar/female aspect and vice-versa.

Jordan also inverted the colours, black for male and white for female.

It doesn't mean the DO and the Creator aren't complementary and opposed, but the Aes Sedai symbol doesn't represent that. It couldn't - the DO is trying to destroy/corrupt Creation, it's nothing like the relationship of saidin to saidar.


Reply to message
How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself? - 25/06/2010 01:00:35 AM 1631 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself? - 25/06/2010 04:18:42 AM 898 Views
.. *NM* - 25/06/2010 05:38:14 AM 484 Views
Mierin thought they had found a new source of power, not of THE power. - 25/06/2010 05:40:27 PM 930 Views
Why can't the Pattern be the Prison? - 25/06/2010 05:52:31 AM 970 Views
Here's a theory I had posted on wotmania - 25/06/2010 06:16:07 AM 995 Views
I told you this about 4 years ago, but your nickname is AWESOME *NM* - 25/06/2010 01:21:24 PM 451 Views
Thanks *NM* - 25/06/2010 01:44:35 PM 449 Views
Aiel Reluctance to Enter T'A'R in the flesh - 25/06/2010 02:12:01 PM 902 Views
Nice catch! - 25/06/2010 04:28:08 PM 858 Views
My idea - 25/06/2010 09:37:32 AM 850 Views
Re: My idea - 25/06/2010 04:26:47 PM 794 Views
If the Bore is like a Gateway... - 25/06/2010 06:19:44 PM 926 Views
Pretty good thought about the conduit-comparison! - 26/06/2010 07:34:16 AM 789 Views
Re: My idea - 25/06/2010 06:44:31 PM 877 Views
The very name "Bore"... - 26/06/2010 07:25:22 AM 832 Views
Actually I think he pretty much backed DomA's opinion - 26/06/2010 08:30:42 AM 745 Views
Well, as said, I disagree. - 26/06/2010 08:43:40 AM 808 Views
Well here's what I think - 26/06/2010 11:18:33 AM 1063 Views
Look... - 26/06/2010 11:43:25 AM 773 Views
Re: Look... - 26/06/2010 01:04:53 PM 858 Views
That's wrong... - 26/06/2010 01:26:25 PM 968 Views
You're ignoring basic facts - 26/06/2010 02:44:38 PM 818 Views
Again... - 26/06/2010 02:53:05 PM 836 Views
Re: Again... - 26/06/2010 03:30:20 PM 842 Views
Yeah.... - 26/06/2010 04:54:50 PM 859 Views
It's absurd. Your idea is clearly wrong, but ok... *NM* - 26/06/2010 05:00:43 PM 761 Views
After reading through the back and forth, I am convinced of this: - 26/06/2010 05:33:21 PM 953 Views
Re: After reading through the back and forth, I am convinced of this: - 27/06/2010 06:20:32 PM 999 Views
Could the Bore have been drilled using balefire? - 02/07/2010 12:07:33 AM 805 Views
it's the same principle as shielding a channeler - 26/06/2010 06:06:04 PM 863 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? - 25/06/2010 03:37:25 PM 704 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? - 25/06/2010 04:12:08 PM 817 Views
I tend to agree with you - 25/06/2010 05:53:53 PM 865 Views
Maybe they can plug the Bore with garbage like British Petroleum. *NM* - 25/06/2010 05:43:41 PM 462 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself? - 25/06/2010 05:59:38 PM 939 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself? - 25/06/2010 06:55:28 PM 823 Views
me too ! - 25/06/2010 10:34:41 PM 848 Views
Ah, thanks to both of you - 26/06/2010 12:38:14 AM 979 Views
Re: Ah, thanks to both of you - 26/06/2010 03:18:47 AM 872 Views
Callandor may be able to channel 'order' via ta'veren - 26/06/2010 12:48:18 AM 966 Views
additional thought on the DO's place in the WoT symbols - 26/06/2010 05:44:06 AM 817 Views
Re: additional thought on the DO's place in the WoT symbols - 26/06/2010 05:23:16 PM 692 Views
You mix up - 27/06/2010 06:31:27 PM 735 Views
good point - 02/07/2010 05:52:49 PM 1110 Views
duct tape *NM* - 26/06/2010 11:17:54 AM 409 Views
Re: duct tape - 26/06/2010 05:41:56 PM 750 Views
I always figured Egwene and Rand would have to work together. - 29/06/2010 08:26:45 PM 919 Views
Re: I always figured Egwene and Rand would have to work together. - 29/06/2010 10:17:59 PM 729 Views
Maybe saidar and saidin, woven together properly, form something else? - 01/07/2010 11:50:40 PM 764 Views

Reply to Message