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Re: Chipping in... Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 04/07/2010 02:44:21 AM
So when people wake up from nightmares and feel scared, then switch on their lights because they're still afraid, what is happening?

Once you get up, you know the nightmare was not real. Rationally, you shouldn't be afraid. But when the hell has it been a rule that rationality will always trump emotion? If the fear you felt during the nightmare is strong enough, the realization that it was a dream won't make the fear go away. You need to switch on the light, drink water, maybe talk to someone you trust, all so that you can soothe the fear, and then you laugh at yourself for letting a dream affect you in this way.

The archways seem worse. Not only do they make you feel strong emotions, you come out remembering in vivid detail what you saw there. You left your husband and child helpless? You're going to cry about it, no matter the fact that it wasn't real. You have a very realistic simulation of such an event lodged in your memory. That will trigger the same emotional response as the real actual event. That's the whole basis of dreaming and feeling emotions based on events in books and movies!


I assume that, during the nightmare, you do believe it's real. Again, I can't speak with any certainty, because I don't really remember any dream from after I was six, but I assume that the fear you felt was lingering from while you were dreaming, at which point you did believe it was real. Even though you now know that it wasn't, the fear lingers on from when you didn't.

Likewise, my argument was that the reason the girls are sobbing in their rooms together after the test indicates that they did believe it was real during the test.

The opposite situation would be, for example, a haunted house. I've only ever seen one person afraid in a haunted house - and that was because there were spiderwebs and she was arachnophobic. You hear a lot of people scream, and see them jump, but that's not fear, that's surprise. You're already on edge because you know people are going to jump at you in tiny hallways where you can't clearly see what's going on, so when they do, you're already primed to react, and you do react. That's what they call a 'jump-scare', but it's not fear. People aren't afraid because they know it's fake. Only the surprise is real.
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