Active Users:1005 Time:16/09/2026 01:37:54 PM
Back to Messageboard Post New Thread Search Help Stats Rules
Remember what Verin said? Don't analyse the DO with human values.. fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 06/07/2010 10:20:37 AM

I'm sure that Shai'tan cares about winning the Last Battle before any other concern.

He does? How do you know? How do you know that Moridin isn't right, and that the DO is patient, and won't mind losing this time?

If I was him, I'd place competence above dedication. Does he really need to trust Demandred? All he needs to do is aim him and tell him to defeat the Light. If Demandred's only goal is to defeat Rand, then all the better... the Light is effectively decapitated without the key to their success.

But every thing we know about the DO's endgame shows that Rand, a Rand emotionally defeated, but still Rand, is critical to success. The DO (and through him Moridin) have worked to keep Rand alive, and
not because they care for him.
Demandred is just never going to accept that. Should he learn that LTT is critical for the Shadow's success, he's only going to become more jealous, and make it even tougher for the Shadow to succeed. After all, it isn't a simple matter of defeating the Light's armies and killing Rand. That's been established pretty well.

Demandred can't be trusted, but all the Forsaken are hideously immoral beings. However, I'd still use Semirhage for Healing, and Demandred for War.

It isn't Demandred's morality that is an issue. I don't know why you'd bring it up here.
Reply to message
Could Moridin be a false Nae'blis whom the DO wants to replace with Demandred? Sidious - 05/07/2010 05:11:43 PM 1653 Views
Not a chance... DomA - 05/07/2010 06:30:38 PM 1233 Views
I agree orius - 06/07/2010 04:44:30 AM 1000 Views
What about winning? Sidious - 06/07/2010 09:24:11 AM 1080 Views
Remember what Verin said? Don't analyse the DO with human values.. fionwe1987 - 06/07/2010 10:20:37 AM 955 Views
Assuming Verin is right Sidious - 06/07/2010 08:09:02 PM 877 Views
Re: Assuming Verin is right fionwe1987 - 06/07/2010 08:44:22 PM 845 Views
Re: Assuming Verin is right Sidious - 06/07/2010 09:06:20 PM 832 Views
Exactly. The Dark One just needs to get free. Then he can break the Pattern at his leisure... Shannow - 06/07/2010 09:48:10 PM 896 Views
Well I agree and disagree Sidious - 06/07/2010 09:55:49 PM 835 Views
Sure. That's for RAND to win. For the Dark One to win, it is as simple as just killing Rand... Shannow - 06/07/2010 09:58:30 PM 805 Views
Says who? Fanatic-Templar - 06/07/2010 10:04:31 PM 872 Views
Because Rand is the only one who can stop him from breaking free. Shannow - 06/07/2010 10:05:52 PM 843 Views
There are many possibilities Sidious - 06/07/2010 10:17:10 PM 879 Views
Those are not all synonyms. Fanatic-Templar - 06/07/2010 10:24:08 PM 898 Views
He had a 100 years in the AoL... fionwe1987 - 07/07/2010 01:01:45 AM 840 Views
Sadly no. But it would have made for a more enthralling physical war... Shannow - 05/07/2010 06:54:11 PM 1100 Views
Demandred? Fanatic-Templar - 06/07/2010 12:44:56 AM 912 Views
Moridin is to blame because he is a symbol of RJ's choice to make this a metaphysical war... Shannow - 06/07/2010 12:56:32 PM 931 Views
So... Fanatic-Templar - 06/07/2010 06:43:32 PM 772 Views
Agree with FT... fionwe1987 - 06/07/2010 08:11:10 PM 863 Views
I think metaphysics is more important Sidious - 06/07/2010 09:18:49 PM 931 Views
I think that's kind of the whole point darius_sedai - 06/07/2010 10:58:19 PM 841 Views
Disagree Kieran - 06/07/2010 01:01:08 AM 815 Views
Re: Sadly no. But it would have made for a more enthralling physical war... Demortae - 06/07/2010 02:31:31 AM 923 Views
Martin is nuts! The characters... CatherineSedai - 08/07/2010 07:55:22 AM 854 Views
That would be cool, but I don't see it. Seriana Sedai - 06/07/2010 06:31:18 AM 961 Views
Will be interesting to see... Etzel - 06/07/2010 07:19:41 AM 820 Views
Re: Will be interesting to see... Datakim - 06/07/2010 07:36:00 PM 783 Views
IMO, this idea is wrong... Etzel - 07/07/2010 07:42:48 AM 767 Views
Re: IMO, this idea is wrong... Datakim - 07/07/2010 07:25:46 PM 740 Views
I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/07/2010 02:25:47 PM 860 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis Datakim - 06/07/2010 07:52:54 PM 992 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/07/2010 08:03:12 PM 827 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis Datakim - 06/07/2010 08:58:38 PM 1399 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/07/2010 10:32:39 PM 932 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis Datakim - 07/07/2010 06:03:46 AM 1023 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/07/2010 03:58:19 PM 907 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis orius - 07/07/2010 06:30:33 AM 789 Views
I claimed long time ago that Demandred is an agent of Light Skeeve the Great - 07/07/2010 04:29:28 PM 906 Views
That would be awesome, and would impress me. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/07/2010 04:37:43 PM 767 Views
It would be awesome Skeeve the Great - 07/07/2010 06:05:58 PM 759 Views
But why would they expect someone to survive into the nhext Age? Fanatic-Templar - 07/07/2010 06:47:12 PM 1141 Views
Re: But why would they expect someone to survive into the nhext Age? Skeeve the Great - 07/07/2010 08:04:21 PM 820 Views
Re: But why would they expect someone to survive into the nhext Age? Fanatic-Templar - 07/07/2010 11:38:40 PM 797 Views
Re: But why would they expect someone to survive into the nhext Age? Skeeve the Great - 08/07/2010 12:37:08 AM 797 Views
I used to think this was Graendal! *NM* fionwe1987 - 07/07/2010 06:53:41 PM 386 Views
Nah, we already got that twist....it was cool when Verin did it, but RJ wouldn't overuse the idea *NM* Demortae - 08/07/2010 01:15:46 AM 424 Views
That would make Demandred my new favourite character Sidious - 08/07/2010 10:15:41 AM 904 Views
Re: That would make Demandred my new favourite character Skeeve the Great - 08/07/2010 03:23:36 PM 865 Views
Re: That would make Demandred my new favourite character Sidious - 08/07/2010 08:41:28 PM 783 Views
Agree. Seriana Sedai - 09/07/2010 12:19:16 AM 718 Views
Back to Messageboard Post New Thread Search Help Stats Rules

Reply to Message

Block Quote Paragraph Quote
Formatting
Smiley Codes