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Remember what Verin said? Don't analyse the DO with human values.. fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 06/07/2010 10:20:37 AM

I'm sure that Shai'tan cares about winning the Last Battle before any other concern.

He does? How do you know? How do you know that Moridin isn't right, and that the DO is patient, and won't mind losing this time?

If I was him, I'd place competence above dedication. Does he really need to trust Demandred? All he needs to do is aim him and tell him to defeat the Light. If Demandred's only goal is to defeat Rand, then all the better... the Light is effectively decapitated without the key to their success.

But every thing we know about the DO's endgame shows that Rand, a Rand emotionally defeated, but still Rand, is critical to success. The DO (and through him Moridin) have worked to keep Rand alive, and
not because they care for him.
Demandred is just never going to accept that. Should he learn that LTT is critical for the Shadow's success, he's only going to become more jealous, and make it even tougher for the Shadow to succeed. After all, it isn't a simple matter of defeating the Light's armies and killing Rand. That's been established pretty well.

Demandred can't be trusted, but all the Forsaken are hideously immoral beings. However, I'd still use Semirhage for Healing, and Demandred for War.

It isn't Demandred's morality that is an issue. I don't know why you'd bring it up here.
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Could Moridin be a false Nae'blis whom the DO wants to replace with Demandred? Sidious - 05/07/2010 05:11:43 PM 1624 Views
Not a chance... DomA - 05/07/2010 06:30:38 PM 1199 Views
I agree orius - 06/07/2010 04:44:30 AM 961 Views
What about winning? Sidious - 06/07/2010 09:24:11 AM 1039 Views
Remember what Verin said? Don't analyse the DO with human values.. fionwe1987 - 06/07/2010 10:20:37 AM 919 Views
Assuming Verin is right Sidious - 06/07/2010 08:09:02 PM 843 Views
Re: Assuming Verin is right fionwe1987 - 06/07/2010 08:44:22 PM 811 Views
Re: Assuming Verin is right Sidious - 06/07/2010 09:06:20 PM 800 Views
Exactly. The Dark One just needs to get free. Then he can break the Pattern at his leisure... Shannow - 06/07/2010 09:48:10 PM 864 Views
Well I agree and disagree Sidious - 06/07/2010 09:55:49 PM 801 Views
Sure. That's for RAND to win. For the Dark One to win, it is as simple as just killing Rand... Shannow - 06/07/2010 09:58:30 PM 772 Views
Says who? Fanatic-Templar - 06/07/2010 10:04:31 PM 840 Views
Because Rand is the only one who can stop him from breaking free. Shannow - 06/07/2010 10:05:52 PM 812 Views
There are many possibilities Sidious - 06/07/2010 10:17:10 PM 847 Views
Those are not all synonyms. Fanatic-Templar - 06/07/2010 10:24:08 PM 869 Views
He had a 100 years in the AoL... fionwe1987 - 07/07/2010 01:01:45 AM 809 Views
Sadly no. But it would have made for a more enthralling physical war... Shannow - 05/07/2010 06:54:11 PM 1063 Views
Demandred? Fanatic-Templar - 06/07/2010 12:44:56 AM 880 Views
Moridin is to blame because he is a symbol of RJ's choice to make this a metaphysical war... Shannow - 06/07/2010 12:56:32 PM 898 Views
So... Fanatic-Templar - 06/07/2010 06:43:32 PM 737 Views
Agree with FT... fionwe1987 - 06/07/2010 08:11:10 PM 821 Views
I think metaphysics is more important Sidious - 06/07/2010 09:18:49 PM 897 Views
I think that's kind of the whole point darius_sedai - 06/07/2010 10:58:19 PM 803 Views
Disagree Kieran - 06/07/2010 01:01:08 AM 786 Views
Re: Sadly no. But it would have made for a more enthralling physical war... Demortae - 06/07/2010 02:31:31 AM 888 Views
Martin is nuts! The characters... CatherineSedai - 08/07/2010 07:55:22 AM 820 Views
That would be cool, but I don't see it. Seriana Sedai - 06/07/2010 06:31:18 AM 927 Views
Will be interesting to see... Etzel - 06/07/2010 07:19:41 AM 791 Views
Re: Will be interesting to see... Datakim - 06/07/2010 07:36:00 PM 746 Views
IMO, this idea is wrong... Etzel - 07/07/2010 07:42:48 AM 739 Views
Re: IMO, this idea is wrong... Datakim - 07/07/2010 07:25:46 PM 715 Views
I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/07/2010 02:25:47 PM 827 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis Datakim - 06/07/2010 07:52:54 PM 965 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/07/2010 08:03:12 PM 795 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis Datakim - 06/07/2010 08:58:38 PM 1371 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/07/2010 10:32:39 PM 899 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis Datakim - 07/07/2010 06:03:46 AM 993 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/07/2010 03:58:19 PM 876 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis orius - 07/07/2010 06:30:33 AM 758 Views
I claimed long time ago that Demandred is an agent of Light Skeeve the Great - 07/07/2010 04:29:28 PM 876 Views
That would be awesome, and would impress me. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/07/2010 04:37:43 PM 737 Views
It would be awesome Skeeve the Great - 07/07/2010 06:05:58 PM 730 Views
But why would they expect someone to survive into the nhext Age? Fanatic-Templar - 07/07/2010 06:47:12 PM 1109 Views
Re: But why would they expect someone to survive into the nhext Age? Skeeve the Great - 07/07/2010 08:04:21 PM 788 Views
Re: But why would they expect someone to survive into the nhext Age? Fanatic-Templar - 07/07/2010 11:38:40 PM 761 Views
Re: But why would they expect someone to survive into the nhext Age? Skeeve the Great - 08/07/2010 12:37:08 AM 764 Views
I used to think this was Graendal! *NM* fionwe1987 - 07/07/2010 06:53:41 PM 367 Views
Nah, we already got that twist....it was cool when Verin did it, but RJ wouldn't overuse the idea *NM* Demortae - 08/07/2010 01:15:46 AM 378 Views
That would make Demandred my new favourite character Sidious - 08/07/2010 10:15:41 AM 867 Views
Re: That would make Demandred my new favourite character Skeeve the Great - 08/07/2010 03:23:36 PM 827 Views
Re: That would make Demandred my new favourite character Sidious - 08/07/2010 08:41:28 PM 751 Views
Agree. Seriana Sedai - 09/07/2010 12:19:16 AM 686 Views
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