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Remember what Verin said? Don't analyse the DO with human values.. fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 06/07/2010 10:20:37 AM

I'm sure that Shai'tan cares about winning the Last Battle before any other concern.

He does? How do you know? How do you know that Moridin isn't right, and that the DO is patient, and won't mind losing this time?

If I was him, I'd place competence above dedication. Does he really need to trust Demandred? All he needs to do is aim him and tell him to defeat the Light. If Demandred's only goal is to defeat Rand, then all the better... the Light is effectively decapitated without the key to their success.

But every thing we know about the DO's endgame shows that Rand, a Rand emotionally defeated, but still Rand, is critical to success. The DO (and through him Moridin) have worked to keep Rand alive, and
not because they care for him.
Demandred is just never going to accept that. Should he learn that LTT is critical for the Shadow's success, he's only going to become more jealous, and make it even tougher for the Shadow to succeed. After all, it isn't a simple matter of defeating the Light's armies and killing Rand. That's been established pretty well.

Demandred can't be trusted, but all the Forsaken are hideously immoral beings. However, I'd still use Semirhage for Healing, and Demandred for War.

It isn't Demandred's morality that is an issue. I don't know why you'd bring it up here.
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Could Moridin be a false Nae'blis whom the DO wants to replace with Demandred? Sidious - 05/07/2010 05:11:43 PM 1378 Views
Not a chance... DomA - 05/07/2010 06:30:38 PM 1003 Views
I agree orius - 06/07/2010 04:44:30 AM 775 Views
What about winning? Sidious - 06/07/2010 09:24:11 AM 857 Views
Remember what Verin said? Don't analyse the DO with human values.. fionwe1987 - 06/07/2010 10:20:37 AM 755 Views
Assuming Verin is right Sidious - 06/07/2010 08:09:02 PM 654 Views
Re: Assuming Verin is right fionwe1987 - 06/07/2010 08:44:22 PM 634 Views
Re: Assuming Verin is right Sidious - 06/07/2010 09:06:20 PM 653 Views
Exactly. The Dark One just needs to get free. Then he can break the Pattern at his leisure... Shannow - 06/07/2010 09:48:10 PM 672 Views
Well I agree and disagree Sidious - 06/07/2010 09:55:49 PM 649 Views
Sure. That's for RAND to win. For the Dark One to win, it is as simple as just killing Rand... Shannow - 06/07/2010 09:58:30 PM 593 Views
Says who? Fanatic-Templar - 06/07/2010 10:04:31 PM 674 Views
Because Rand is the only one who can stop him from breaking free. Shannow - 06/07/2010 10:05:52 PM 644 Views
There are many possibilities Sidious - 06/07/2010 10:17:10 PM 680 Views
Those are not all synonyms. Fanatic-Templar - 06/07/2010 10:24:08 PM 727 Views
He had a 100 years in the AoL... fionwe1987 - 07/07/2010 01:01:45 AM 657 Views
Sadly no. But it would have made for a more enthralling physical war... Shannow - 05/07/2010 06:54:11 PM 818 Views
Demandred? Fanatic-Templar - 06/07/2010 12:44:56 AM 696 Views
Moridin is to blame because he is a symbol of RJ's choice to make this a metaphysical war... Shannow - 06/07/2010 12:56:32 PM 715 Views
So... Fanatic-Templar - 06/07/2010 06:43:32 PM 581 Views
Agree with FT... fionwe1987 - 06/07/2010 08:11:10 PM 667 Views
I think metaphysics is more important Sidious - 06/07/2010 09:18:49 PM 727 Views
I think that's kind of the whole point darius_sedai - 06/07/2010 10:58:19 PM 638 Views
Disagree Kieran - 06/07/2010 01:01:08 AM 632 Views
Re: Sadly no. But it would have made for a more enthralling physical war... Demortae - 06/07/2010 02:31:31 AM 718 Views
Martin is nuts! The characters... CatherineSedai - 08/07/2010 07:55:22 AM 666 Views
That would be cool, but I don't see it. Seriana Sedai - 06/07/2010 06:31:18 AM 724 Views
Will be interesting to see... Etzel - 06/07/2010 07:19:41 AM 631 Views
Re: Will be interesting to see... Datakim - 06/07/2010 07:36:00 PM 595 Views
IMO, this idea is wrong... Etzel - 07/07/2010 07:42:48 AM 588 Views
Re: IMO, this idea is wrong... Datakim - 07/07/2010 07:25:46 PM 555 Views
I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/07/2010 02:25:47 PM 651 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis Datakim - 06/07/2010 07:52:54 PM 786 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/07/2010 08:03:12 PM 624 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis Datakim - 06/07/2010 08:58:38 PM 1199 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/07/2010 10:32:39 PM 733 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis Datakim - 07/07/2010 06:03:46 AM 825 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/07/2010 03:58:19 PM 716 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis orius - 07/07/2010 06:30:33 AM 597 Views
I claimed long time ago that Demandred is an agent of Light Skeeve the Great - 07/07/2010 04:29:28 PM 698 Views
That would be awesome, and would impress me. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/07/2010 04:37:43 PM 560 Views
It would be awesome Skeeve the Great - 07/07/2010 06:05:58 PM 584 Views
But why would they expect someone to survive into the nhext Age? Fanatic-Templar - 07/07/2010 06:47:12 PM 955 Views
Re: But why would they expect someone to survive into the nhext Age? Skeeve the Great - 07/07/2010 08:04:21 PM 614 Views
Re: But why would they expect someone to survive into the nhext Age? Fanatic-Templar - 07/07/2010 11:38:40 PM 611 Views
Re: But why would they expect someone to survive into the nhext Age? Skeeve the Great - 08/07/2010 12:37:08 AM 587 Views
I used to think this was Graendal! *NM* fionwe1987 - 07/07/2010 06:53:41 PM 306 Views
Nah, we already got that twist....it was cool when Verin did it, but RJ wouldn't overuse the idea *NM* Demortae - 08/07/2010 01:15:46 AM 303 Views
That would make Demandred my new favourite character Sidious - 08/07/2010 10:15:41 AM 706 Views
Re: That would make Demandred my new favourite character Skeeve the Great - 08/07/2010 03:23:36 PM 644 Views
Re: That would make Demandred my new favourite character Sidious - 08/07/2010 08:41:28 PM 587 Views
Agree. Seriana Sedai - 09/07/2010 12:19:16 AM 528 Views
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