Active Users:1070 Time:16/09/2026 02:24:21 PM
Moridin is to blame because he is a symbol of RJ's choice to make this a metaphysical war... Shannow Send a noteboard - 06/07/2010 12:56:32 PM
Rather than a war of conquest and destruction.

The tension would have been more tangible if you could see the Shadow capturing a specific number of nations, overrunning designated capital cities, holding half or two thirds of the physical territory on the continent, having so many thouands of evil channelers etc.

Essentially, a story centered around the War of Power, or the Trolloc Wars would have been more immediately terrifying than one where the Shadow is subtly weakening the Pattern, or whatever their current strategy really is.

In such a series, the overlord of the Shadow would have been someone in the vein of Demandred. Just like he was only a hairsbreadth from being the overlord of the Light in the War of Power.

Seeing city after city fall to the Shadow, seeing men women and children being fed to the Trollocs in their thousands, seeing evil monstrosities being created by Aginor, seeing hordes of Mesaana's children running amok, seeing the Hall of Servants razed to the ground - that would have been a tension filled tale -culminating in a desperate strike by the hero to seal the Dark One's prison again in a last ditch attempt to save the world.

This current conflict has very little of that. Instead, it focuses on the state of mind of the hero, and the subtle spread of chaos through the mad, seemingly senseless plans of the Nae blis.

I think RJ's Wheel of Time series would have been more enthralling if it covered the War of Power than it is while covering the adventures of a group of teenagers running around trying to fight an invisible enemy while at the same time trying to remember laughter and tears.

And in a nutshell, the two opposites can be summarized as the Moridin vs Demandred model of villainy.
This message last edited by Shannow on 06/07/2010 at 12:58:04 PM
Reply to message
Could Moridin be a false Nae'blis whom the DO wants to replace with Demandred? - 05/07/2010 05:11:43 PM 1654 Views
Not a chance... - 05/07/2010 06:30:38 PM 1235 Views
I agree - 06/07/2010 04:44:30 AM 1003 Views
What about winning? - 06/07/2010 09:24:11 AM 1082 Views
Remember what Verin said? Don't analyse the DO with human values.. - 06/07/2010 10:20:37 AM 957 Views
Assuming Verin is right - 06/07/2010 08:09:02 PM 879 Views
Re: Assuming Verin is right - 06/07/2010 08:44:22 PM 847 Views
Re: Assuming Verin is right - 06/07/2010 09:06:20 PM 834 Views
Exactly. The Dark One just needs to get free. Then he can break the Pattern at his leisure... - 06/07/2010 09:48:10 PM 899 Views
Well I agree and disagree - 06/07/2010 09:55:49 PM 836 Views
Sure. That's for RAND to win. For the Dark One to win, it is as simple as just killing Rand... - 06/07/2010 09:58:30 PM 806 Views
Says who? - 06/07/2010 10:04:31 PM 874 Views
Because Rand is the only one who can stop him from breaking free. - 06/07/2010 10:05:52 PM 844 Views
There are many possibilities - 06/07/2010 10:17:10 PM 881 Views
Those are not all synonyms. - 06/07/2010 10:24:08 PM 900 Views
He had a 100 years in the AoL... - 07/07/2010 01:01:45 AM 841 Views
Sadly no. But it would have made for a more enthralling physical war... - 05/07/2010 06:54:11 PM 1102 Views
Demandred? - 06/07/2010 12:44:56 AM 914 Views
Moridin is to blame because he is a symbol of RJ's choice to make this a metaphysical war... - 06/07/2010 12:56:32 PM 934 Views
So... - 06/07/2010 06:43:32 PM 775 Views
Agree with FT... - 06/07/2010 08:11:10 PM 865 Views
I think metaphysics is more important - 06/07/2010 09:18:49 PM 933 Views
I think that's kind of the whole point - 06/07/2010 10:58:19 PM 843 Views
Disagree - 06/07/2010 01:01:08 AM 818 Views
Martin is nuts! The characters... - 08/07/2010 07:55:22 AM 857 Views
That would be cool, but I don't see it. - 06/07/2010 06:31:18 AM 963 Views
Will be interesting to see... - 06/07/2010 07:19:41 AM 822 Views
Re: Will be interesting to see... - 06/07/2010 07:36:00 PM 785 Views
IMO, this idea is wrong... - 07/07/2010 07:42:48 AM 769 Views
Re: IMO, this idea is wrong... - 07/07/2010 07:25:46 PM 743 Views
I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis - 06/07/2010 02:25:47 PM 862 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis - 06/07/2010 07:52:54 PM 994 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis - 06/07/2010 08:03:12 PM 829 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis - 06/07/2010 08:58:38 PM 1401 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis - 06/07/2010 10:32:39 PM 934 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis - 07/07/2010 06:03:46 AM 1025 Views
Re: I don't think so. But neither do I think Moridin is the true Nae'blis - 07/07/2010 03:58:19 PM 909 Views
I claimed long time ago that Demandred is an agent of Light - 07/07/2010 04:29:28 PM 908 Views
That would be awesome, and would impress me. - 07/07/2010 04:37:43 PM 769 Views
It would be awesome - 07/07/2010 06:05:58 PM 761 Views
But why would they expect someone to survive into the nhext Age? - 07/07/2010 06:47:12 PM 1143 Views
Re: But why would they expect someone to survive into the nhext Age? - 07/07/2010 08:04:21 PM 822 Views
Re: But why would they expect someone to survive into the nhext Age? - 07/07/2010 11:38:40 PM 800 Views
Re: But why would they expect someone to survive into the nhext Age? - 08/07/2010 12:37:08 AM 799 Views
I used to think this was Graendal! *NM* - 07/07/2010 06:53:41 PM 386 Views
That would make Demandred my new favourite character - 08/07/2010 10:15:41 AM 905 Views
Re: That would make Demandred my new favourite character - 08/07/2010 03:23:36 PM 868 Views
Re: That would make Demandred my new favourite character - 08/07/2010 08:41:28 PM 784 Views
Agree. - 09/07/2010 12:19:16 AM 720 Views

Reply to Message