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One thing among many that really bothered me about Tuon Matrimony Cauthon Send a noteboard - 21/07/2010 08:07:57 AM
I may need to reread parts of KoD, but I was very annoyed at Tuon's unwillingness to help Mat get to Andor without having to fight the Seanchan army. Tuon's silly game cost thousands of Seanchan lives. What kind of leader stands by and lets her armies and subjects get destroyed without doing something?

All Tuon had to do was create a royal decree that gave Mat permission to cross into Andor. There was no need for any conflict at all. I find it reprehensible that she did not act to save her people.

Tuon is dangerously stubborn. She was unwilling to negotiate with Rand, she was unwilling to lend a finger to help Mat which help to the death of thousands of her army, and she is completely unable to see that her attacks on the White Tower are very reckless at the time right before the last battle.

Tuon's attitudes and beliefs need a serious re-evaluation. I fear that an a'dam may be one of the few things that will be able to change Tuon's position on channeling. What else will cause Tuon to change this late in the game? I think only something major and possibly traumatic is going to be powerful enough to break the ensconced beliefs of Tuon.

I don't see the comparison between Egwene and Tuon at this point in time. Both characters are strong leaders but Egwene's hallmark has always been flexibility and willingness to adapt into different situations. Egwene was able to learn from other cultures such as the Aiel and the Seafolk. I don't Tuon has really displayed these traits. Tuon has shown some positive signs of change with Beslan and with finally accepting that Trollocs really exist. However, Tuon still has a long way to go before she is fully capable of being the ruler that the pattern needs her to be for the Last Battle. Egwene, on the other hand, is fully ready now.
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Character discussion 10 : Tuon - 18/07/2010 06:08:30 PM 2356 Views
Most annoying, unlikeable, incomprehensible, irredeemable character in the books. - 18/07/2010 06:44:14 PM 1540 Views
I disprove your argument with one word. Coincidentally, it is a character. - 18/07/2010 07:50:17 PM 1326 Views
Bah. - 18/07/2010 11:51:48 PM 1347 Views
Actually, I like both of them. - 19/07/2010 06:41:12 AM 1277 Views
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I really like Tuon. - 18/07/2010 07:45:11 PM 1493 Views
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Agreed. - 18/07/2010 09:11:19 PM 1275 Views
Re: I really like Tuon. - 18/07/2010 11:53:37 PM 1337 Views
well said *NM* - 19/07/2010 01:39:46 AM 613 Views
Re: I really like Tuon. - 19/07/2010 03:34:42 AM 1296 Views
I disagree. *NM* - 19/07/2010 08:04:45 AM 597 Views
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Cool character but has major flaws - 19/07/2010 06:22:15 AM 1332 Views
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Re: The a'dam and the 3 Oaths are a lot alike. - 21/07/2010 02:22:26 PM 1147 Views
Also... - 22/07/2010 08:39:48 PM 1279 Views
Re: Also... - 22/07/2010 09:19:37 PM 1147 Views
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Re: "She is a better ruler than most". Really? Can you provide the examples? - 20/07/2010 12:39:15 AM 1258 Views
Yeah, What he said ^^ and... - 20/07/2010 01:05:49 AM 1225 Views
Need better examples... - 20/07/2010 05:20:48 AM 1189 Views
Re: "She is a better ruler than most". Really? Can you provide the examples? - 20/07/2010 03:59:30 PM 1218 Views
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Yes. - 20/07/2010 05:17:32 PM 1206 Views
There are plenty of examples - 20/07/2010 08:59:19 PM 1384 Views
Re: There are plenty of examples - 21/07/2010 02:21:01 PM 1159 Views
Tuon carries out enlightened absolutism, then - 22/07/2010 11:24:22 AM 1338 Views
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Answered my own question = Yes. - 18/07/2010 11:00:09 PM 1265 Views
one of my favorite characters - 19/07/2010 01:38:53 AM 1218 Views
Like her - 19/07/2010 07:00:01 AM 1312 Views
A horrible woman - 19/07/2010 07:02:45 AM 1371 Views
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on this we agree - 19/07/2010 07:56:31 PM 1302 Views
Re: on this we agree - 20/07/2010 01:04:07 AM 1207 Views
Re: A horrible woman indeed! - 20/07/2010 01:17:18 AM 1160 Views
Re: A horrible woman - 21/07/2010 04:19:24 PM 1151 Views
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Re: I think she has the most potential for evil - 21/07/2010 04:27:45 PM 1136 Views
Re: I think she has the most potential for evil - 22/07/2010 07:54:24 PM 1072 Views
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One thing among many that really bothered me about Tuon - 21/07/2010 08:07:57 AM 1203 Views
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Yup, she had no choice there. - 21/07/2010 04:31:13 PM 1130 Views
Fortuona - 22/07/2010 03:36:51 AM 1651 Views

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