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One thing among many that really bothered me about Tuon Matrimony Cauthon Send a noteboard - 21/07/2010 08:07:57 AM
I may need to reread parts of KoD, but I was very annoyed at Tuon's unwillingness to help Mat get to Andor without having to fight the Seanchan army. Tuon's silly game cost thousands of Seanchan lives. What kind of leader stands by and lets her armies and subjects get destroyed without doing something?

All Tuon had to do was create a royal decree that gave Mat permission to cross into Andor. There was no need for any conflict at all. I find it reprehensible that she did not act to save her people.

Tuon is dangerously stubborn. She was unwilling to negotiate with Rand, she was unwilling to lend a finger to help Mat which help to the death of thousands of her army, and she is completely unable to see that her attacks on the White Tower are very reckless at the time right before the last battle.

Tuon's attitudes and beliefs need a serious re-evaluation. I fear that an a'dam may be one of the few things that will be able to change Tuon's position on channeling. What else will cause Tuon to change this late in the game? I think only something major and possibly traumatic is going to be powerful enough to break the ensconced beliefs of Tuon.

I don't see the comparison between Egwene and Tuon at this point in time. Both characters are strong leaders but Egwene's hallmark has always been flexibility and willingness to adapt into different situations. Egwene was able to learn from other cultures such as the Aiel and the Seafolk. I don't Tuon has really displayed these traits. Tuon has shown some positive signs of change with Beslan and with finally accepting that Trollocs really exist. However, Tuon still has a long way to go before she is fully capable of being the ruler that the pattern needs her to be for the Last Battle. Egwene, on the other hand, is fully ready now.
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Character discussion 10 : Tuon - 18/07/2010 06:08:30 PM 2211 Views
Most annoying, unlikeable, incomprehensible, irredeemable character in the books. - 18/07/2010 06:44:14 PM 1393 Views
I disprove your argument with one word. Coincidentally, it is a character. - 18/07/2010 07:50:17 PM 1183 Views
Bah. - 18/07/2010 11:51:48 PM 1195 Views
Actually, I like both of them. - 19/07/2010 06:41:12 AM 1119 Views
Re: Actually, I like both of them. - 21/07/2010 01:22:21 PM 1042 Views
I really like Tuon. - 18/07/2010 07:45:11 PM 1297 Views
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I guess I should have said she and Egwene share positive personality traits - 18/07/2010 09:01:50 PM 1205 Views
Agreed. - 18/07/2010 09:11:19 PM 1115 Views
Re: I really like Tuon. - 18/07/2010 11:53:37 PM 1178 Views
well said *NM* - 19/07/2010 01:39:46 AM 534 Views
Re: I really like Tuon. - 19/07/2010 03:34:42 AM 1151 Views
I disagree. *NM* - 19/07/2010 08:04:45 AM 515 Views
Brandon said it was her mental toughness... - 20/07/2010 06:34:18 AM 1045 Views
Cool character but has major flaws - 19/07/2010 06:22:15 AM 1160 Views
The a'dam and the 3 Oaths are a lot alike. - 20/07/2010 01:01:49 AM 1282 Views
Re: The a'dam and the 3 Oaths are a lot alike. - 21/07/2010 02:22:26 PM 976 Views
Also... - 22/07/2010 08:39:48 PM 1119 Views
Re: Also... - 22/07/2010 09:19:37 PM 1004 Views
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Re: "She is a better ruler than most". Really? Can you provide the examples? - 20/07/2010 12:39:15 AM 1104 Views
Yeah, What he said ^^ and... - 20/07/2010 01:05:49 AM 1077 Views
Need better examples... - 20/07/2010 05:20:48 AM 1042 Views
Re: "She is a better ruler than most". Really? Can you provide the examples? - 20/07/2010 03:59:30 PM 1066 Views
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Yes. - 20/07/2010 05:17:32 PM 1053 Views
There are plenty of examples - 20/07/2010 08:59:19 PM 1222 Views
Re: There are plenty of examples - 21/07/2010 02:21:01 PM 999 Views
Tuon carries out enlightened absolutism, then - 22/07/2010 11:24:22 AM 1144 Views
Re: Tuon carries out enlightened absolutism, then - 22/07/2010 03:32:54 PM 943 Views
The Seanchen as a whole are better rulers - 21/07/2010 04:21:09 AM 1015 Views
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Answered my own question = Yes. - 18/07/2010 11:00:09 PM 1113 Views
one of my favorite characters - 19/07/2010 01:38:53 AM 1062 Views
Like her - 19/07/2010 07:00:01 AM 1130 Views
A horrible woman - 19/07/2010 07:02:45 AM 1194 Views
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on this we agree - 19/07/2010 07:56:31 PM 1136 Views
Re: on this we agree - 20/07/2010 01:04:07 AM 1065 Views
Re: A horrible woman indeed! - 20/07/2010 01:17:18 AM 988 Views
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Re: I think she has the most potential for evil - 21/07/2010 04:27:45 PM 983 Views
Re: I think she has the most potential for evil - 22/07/2010 07:54:24 PM 921 Views
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One thing among many that really bothered me about Tuon - 21/07/2010 08:07:57 AM 1047 Views
She would have been killed - 21/07/2010 08:43:44 AM 1067 Views
Yup, she had no choice there. - 21/07/2010 04:31:13 PM 981 Views
Fortuona - 22/07/2010 03:36:51 AM 1474 Views

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