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One thing among many that really bothered me about Tuon Matrimony Cauthon Send a noteboard - 21/07/2010 08:07:57 AM
I may need to reread parts of KoD, but I was very annoyed at Tuon's unwillingness to help Mat get to Andor without having to fight the Seanchan army. Tuon's silly game cost thousands of Seanchan lives. What kind of leader stands by and lets her armies and subjects get destroyed without doing something?

All Tuon had to do was create a royal decree that gave Mat permission to cross into Andor. There was no need for any conflict at all. I find it reprehensible that she did not act to save her people.

Tuon is dangerously stubborn. She was unwilling to negotiate with Rand, she was unwilling to lend a finger to help Mat which help to the death of thousands of her army, and she is completely unable to see that her attacks on the White Tower are very reckless at the time right before the last battle.

Tuon's attitudes and beliefs need a serious re-evaluation. I fear that an a'dam may be one of the few things that will be able to change Tuon's position on channeling. What else will cause Tuon to change this late in the game? I think only something major and possibly traumatic is going to be powerful enough to break the ensconced beliefs of Tuon.

I don't see the comparison between Egwene and Tuon at this point in time. Both characters are strong leaders but Egwene's hallmark has always been flexibility and willingness to adapt into different situations. Egwene was able to learn from other cultures such as the Aiel and the Seafolk. I don't Tuon has really displayed these traits. Tuon has shown some positive signs of change with Beslan and with finally accepting that Trollocs really exist. However, Tuon still has a long way to go before she is fully capable of being the ruler that the pattern needs her to be for the Last Battle. Egwene, on the other hand, is fully ready now.
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Character discussion 10 : Tuon - 18/07/2010 06:08:30 PM 2088 Views
Most annoying, unlikeable, incomprehensible, irredeemable character in the books. - 18/07/2010 06:44:14 PM 1261 Views
I disprove your argument with one word. Coincidentally, it is a character. - 18/07/2010 07:50:17 PM 1067 Views
Bah. - 18/07/2010 11:51:48 PM 1058 Views
Actually, I like both of them. - 19/07/2010 06:41:12 AM 989 Views
Re: Actually, I like both of them. - 21/07/2010 01:22:21 PM 918 Views
I really like Tuon. - 18/07/2010 07:45:11 PM 1179 Views
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Agreed. - 18/07/2010 09:11:19 PM 986 Views
Re: I really like Tuon. - 18/07/2010 11:53:37 PM 1047 Views
well said *NM* - 19/07/2010 01:39:46 AM 479 Views
Re: I really like Tuon. - 19/07/2010 03:34:42 AM 1004 Views
I disagree. *NM* - 19/07/2010 08:04:45 AM 449 Views
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Re: The a'dam and the 3 Oaths are a lot alike. - 21/07/2010 02:22:26 PM 854 Views
Also... - 22/07/2010 08:39:48 PM 998 Views
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Re: "She is a better ruler than most". Really? Can you provide the examples? - 20/07/2010 12:39:15 AM 976 Views
Yeah, What he said ^^ and... - 20/07/2010 01:05:49 AM 962 Views
Need better examples... - 20/07/2010 05:20:48 AM 918 Views
Re: "She is a better ruler than most". Really? Can you provide the examples? - 20/07/2010 03:59:30 PM 939 Views
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Yes. - 20/07/2010 05:17:32 PM 952 Views
There are plenty of examples - 20/07/2010 08:59:19 PM 1106 Views
Re: There are plenty of examples - 21/07/2010 02:21:01 PM 859 Views
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one of my favorite characters - 19/07/2010 01:38:53 AM 931 Views
Like her - 19/07/2010 07:00:01 AM 997 Views
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on this we agree - 19/07/2010 07:56:31 PM 1009 Views
Re: on this we agree - 20/07/2010 01:04:07 AM 942 Views
Re: A horrible woman indeed! - 20/07/2010 01:17:18 AM 857 Views
Re: A horrible woman - 21/07/2010 04:19:24 PM 888 Views
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Re: I think she has the most potential for evil - 21/07/2010 04:27:45 PM 866 Views
Re: I think she has the most potential for evil - 22/07/2010 07:54:24 PM 790 Views
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One thing among many that really bothered me about Tuon - 21/07/2010 08:07:57 AM 922 Views
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Yup, she had no choice there. - 21/07/2010 04:31:13 PM 879 Views
Fortuona - 22/07/2010 03:36:51 AM 1310 Views

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