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I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge. Gher Send a noteboard - 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM
Much like creating modern gadgets isn't common knowledge today. Moggy didn't seem to know how to make Cuendillar, other than the basic theory (unless she was lying, but at that point, I think she was too scared of Egwene). Nor have we seen any of the Forsaken try to make any kind of ter'angreal or angreal. I think it required specialized channelers, complex weaves, links and laboratory/workshop facilities for the more complicated 'angreal.

As for Compulsion and Balefire, it's not surprising that those fell out of common usage, and even there, we don't know how common those weaves were during the AoL. Both sides stopped using Balefire, and were afraid to use it, so they were unlikely to keep teaching it, and Compulsion is heavily frowned-upon, not to mention extremely complex.

Travelling and Skimming are the hardest to understand or accept. But I've seen quite a few theories or explanations put forth. The land could have been in such a constant state of upheaval thanks to the Breaking of the World, that people avoided using Travelling to avoid attracting the attention of insane male Aes Sedai or remnants of the Shadow's armies. Or they were more focused on survival and less on finding and teaching new channelers. Or Ishy suppressed the knowledge. I don't know. I think even a combination of all these answers is still insufficient, but I'll accept it. Maybe Ishy worked very hard to get rid of the knowledge.


But even still, we've seen that some of the weaves were passed down. Moiraine probably learned or figured out the weaves for balefire after visiting Vandene and Adeleas in TGH and reading from their library. And Compulsion seems to be somewhat instinctual, at least in very primitive forms.
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How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ? - 20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM 2062 Views
Ishamael may have had a hand in that... - 20/08/2010 04:45:39 AM 1337 Views
Agreed. - 20/08/2010 10:01:37 AM 1218 Views
Lost Weaves - 20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM 1354 Views
Re: Lost Weaves *NM* - 20/08/2010 01:45:30 PM 655 Views
Not logical - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM 1331 Views
Re: Not logical - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM 1121 Views
All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking.. - 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM 1266 Views
All good points also. - 20/08/2010 03:48:49 PM 1610 Views
Re: Not logical - 20/08/2010 03:45:55 PM 1095 Views
Re: Not logical - 21/08/2010 04:20:41 AM 1007 Views
you may have hit onto something with your last statement - 21/08/2010 05:06:59 PM 1091 Views
Re: you may have hit onto something with your last statement - 23/08/2010 05:09:06 PM 1012 Views
I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge. - 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM 1166 Views
The need to learn a location to travel - 20/08/2010 05:58:48 PM 1064 Views
They could use Rand's trick from TGS. - 21/08/2010 01:06:33 AM 1034 Views
My only theory... - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM 1095 Views
The Strongest Died seems like a pretty valid theory to me... - 20/08/2010 06:14:29 PM 1241 Views
Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property - 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM 1043 Views
Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM* - 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM 488 Views
It doesn't have to be logical... - 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM 1180 Views
Idea? - 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM 969 Views
But they weren't too weak - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM 1083 Views
That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers. - 21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM 1164 Views
How can you "write a weave down"? - 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM 1150 Views
How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM* - 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM 1172 Views
figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM* - 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM 523 Views
That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP... - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM 1049 Views
OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM* - 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM 524 Views
I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM 1091 Views
Me neither... - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM 1118 Views
Mispost.. *NM* - 25/08/2010 02:51:02 PM 574 Views
I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP - 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM 1068 Views
Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP - 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM 1405 Views
But... - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM 1039 Views
When did she use that? *NM* - 25/08/2010 09:34:31 AM 497 Views
We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC - 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM 1323 Views
Elayne did use Moiraine's coin trick. - 25/08/2010 06:09:27 PM 1189 Views
Likely from Vandene - 21/08/2010 05:58:31 PM 1462 Views
Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw... - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM 1132 Views
one thing i've noticed - 23/08/2010 06:37:48 PM 1083 Views
Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism. - 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM 1050 Views

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