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I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge. Gher Send a noteboard - 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM
Much like creating modern gadgets isn't common knowledge today. Moggy didn't seem to know how to make Cuendillar, other than the basic theory (unless she was lying, but at that point, I think she was too scared of Egwene). Nor have we seen any of the Forsaken try to make any kind of ter'angreal or angreal. I think it required specialized channelers, complex weaves, links and laboratory/workshop facilities for the more complicated 'angreal.

As for Compulsion and Balefire, it's not surprising that those fell out of common usage, and even there, we don't know how common those weaves were during the AoL. Both sides stopped using Balefire, and were afraid to use it, so they were unlikely to keep teaching it, and Compulsion is heavily frowned-upon, not to mention extremely complex.

Travelling and Skimming are the hardest to understand or accept. But I've seen quite a few theories or explanations put forth. The land could have been in such a constant state of upheaval thanks to the Breaking of the World, that people avoided using Travelling to avoid attracting the attention of insane male Aes Sedai or remnants of the Shadow's armies. Or they were more focused on survival and less on finding and teaching new channelers. Or Ishy suppressed the knowledge. I don't know. I think even a combination of all these answers is still insufficient, but I'll accept it. Maybe Ishy worked very hard to get rid of the knowledge.


But even still, we've seen that some of the weaves were passed down. Moiraine probably learned or figured out the weaves for balefire after visiting Vandene and Adeleas in TGH and reading from their library. And Compulsion seems to be somewhat instinctual, at least in very primitive forms.
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How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ? - 20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM 1775 Views
Ishamael may have had a hand in that... - 20/08/2010 04:45:39 AM 1114 Views
Agreed. - 20/08/2010 10:01:37 AM 1015 Views
Lost Weaves - 20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM 1099 Views
Re: Lost Weaves *NM* - 20/08/2010 01:45:30 PM 534 Views
Not logical - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM 1083 Views
Re: Not logical - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM 909 Views
All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking.. - 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM 1038 Views
All good points also. - 20/08/2010 03:48:49 PM 1384 Views
Re: Not logical - 20/08/2010 03:45:55 PM 880 Views
Re: Not logical - 21/08/2010 04:20:41 AM 809 Views
you may have hit onto something with your last statement - 21/08/2010 05:06:59 PM 898 Views
Re: you may have hit onto something with your last statement - 23/08/2010 05:09:06 PM 808 Views
I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge. - 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM 906 Views
The need to learn a location to travel - 20/08/2010 05:58:48 PM 853 Views
They could use Rand's trick from TGS. - 21/08/2010 01:06:33 AM 812 Views
My only theory... - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM 869 Views
The Strongest Died seems like a pretty valid theory to me... - 20/08/2010 06:14:29 PM 1016 Views
Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property - 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM 835 Views
Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM* - 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM 373 Views
It doesn't have to be logical... - 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM 980 Views
Idea? - 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM 770 Views
But they weren't too weak - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM 848 Views
That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers. - 21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM 937 Views
How can you "write a weave down"? - 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM 906 Views
How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM* - 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM 1057 Views
figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM* - 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM 410 Views
That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP... - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM 847 Views
OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM* - 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM 417 Views
I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM 875 Views
Me neither... - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM 908 Views
Mispost.. *NM* - 25/08/2010 02:51:02 PM 476 Views
I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP - 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM 852 Views
Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP - 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM 1185 Views
But... - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM 829 Views
When did she use that? *NM* - 25/08/2010 09:34:31 AM 390 Views
We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC - 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM 998 Views
Elayne did use Moiraine's coin trick. - 25/08/2010 06:09:27 PM 954 Views
Likely from Vandene - 21/08/2010 05:58:31 PM 1195 Views
Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw... - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM 919 Views
one thing i've noticed - 23/08/2010 06:37:48 PM 859 Views
Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism. - 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM 826 Views

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