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My only theory... Nameless Ashaman Send a noteboard - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM
My only theory is that weaves weren't shared due to channelers being isolated from each other or simply mistrusting those they did encounter. Thus knowledge disappeared as the AOL channelers aged and died.

It's still a stretch to believe that Travelling was among the lost weaves, however. It was broadly useful and doesn't seem to require a special talent. You would think every AOL channeler with sufficient strength would have learned it.

As Gher pointed out, making angreals and cuendillar weren't common weaves and probably required a certain aptitude. It's far easier to believe that knowledge could be lost.

Knowledge of Balefire would have been deliberately allowed to die out.

Compulsion wasn't actually lost, just forbidden. Besides, even if the AOL weaves had passed from memory, apparantly half of all wilders figure out some version of it on their own.

So Travelling is the only big mystery, IMO.


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How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ? malekithe - 20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM 2062 Views
Ishamael may have had a hand in that... Froggles - 20/08/2010 04:45:39 AM 1337 Views
Agreed. Lord Haart - 20/08/2010 10:01:37 AM 1217 Views
You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering these weaves Shannow - 20/08/2010 10:08:10 AM 1327 Views
Re: You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:40:16 PM 1049 Views
These are good points. To some extent, it may be because our main characters are "gifted" channelers newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:57:49 PM 1094 Views
The bigger problem is minor characters copying the weaves so quickly... Shannow - 20/08/2010 09:14:25 PM 1130 Views
Lost Weaves Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM 1354 Views
Re: Lost Weaves *NM* Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:45:30 PM 655 Views
Not logical Shannow - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM 1331 Views
Re: Not logical Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM 1121 Views
All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking.. Shannow - 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM 1265 Views
All good points also. Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:48:49 PM 1609 Views
Re: Not logical Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:45:55 PM 1095 Views
Re: Not logical mmcleod - 21/08/2010 04:20:41 AM 1007 Views
you may have hit onto something with your last statement darius_sedai - 21/08/2010 05:06:59 PM 1091 Views
Re: you may have hit onto something with your last statement Ashaman_Luc - 23/08/2010 05:09:06 PM 1012 Views
If you go back and read the descriptions of the breaking, and think about the 3000 year cycle newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 04:37:02 PM 1181 Views
I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge. Gher - 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM 1165 Views
The need to learn a location to travel Ryan - 20/08/2010 05:58:48 PM 1064 Views
They could use Rand's trick from TGS. Gher - 21/08/2010 01:06:33 AM 1034 Views
You & Ryan make good points, esp on balefire/compulsion. In a shorter series, it'd make more sense newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:52:59 PM 1128 Views
My only theory... Nameless Ashaman - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM 1095 Views
The Strongest Died seems like a pretty valid theory to me... lodlom - 20/08/2010 06:14:29 PM 1241 Views
Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property Helene - 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM 1043 Views
Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM* newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM 488 Views
If they are secretive and protective, it's not a huge stretch that knowledge would be taken into the Helene - 21/08/2010 10:27:15 AM 1165 Views
It doesn't have to be logical... scooter - 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM 1180 Views
Idea? Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM 969 Views
But they weren't too weak malekithe - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM 1083 Views
That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers. Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM 1164 Views
How can you "write a weave down"? NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM 1150 Views
How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM* Sidious - 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM 1172 Views
figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM 523 Views
That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP... DomA - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM 1049 Views
OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM 524 Views
I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM 1091 Views
Me neither... DomA - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM 1118 Views
Mispost.. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:51:02 PM 574 Views
I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM 1068 Views
Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP DomA - 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM 1405 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM 1039 Views
When did she use that? *NM* Lord Haart - 25/08/2010 09:34:31 AM 497 Views
We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM 1323 Views
Elayne did use Moiraine's coin trick. Gher - 25/08/2010 06:09:27 PM 1189 Views
Likely from Vandene DomA - 21/08/2010 05:58:31 PM 1461 Views
Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw... Phelix - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM 1132 Views
one thing i've noticed Yunalesca - 23/08/2010 06:37:48 PM 1083 Views
Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism. Macharius - 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM 1050 Views
Passing on useful survival skills trumped esoteric lore during the War of Power and the Breaking RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 03:18:47 PM 1235 Views
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