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My only theory... Nameless Ashaman Send a noteboard - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM
My only theory is that weaves weren't shared due to channelers being isolated from each other or simply mistrusting those they did encounter. Thus knowledge disappeared as the AOL channelers aged and died.

It's still a stretch to believe that Travelling was among the lost weaves, however. It was broadly useful and doesn't seem to require a special talent. You would think every AOL channeler with sufficient strength would have learned it.

As Gher pointed out, making angreals and cuendillar weren't common weaves and probably required a certain aptitude. It's far easier to believe that knowledge could be lost.

Knowledge of Balefire would have been deliberately allowed to die out.

Compulsion wasn't actually lost, just forbidden. Besides, even if the AOL weaves had passed from memory, apparantly half of all wilders figure out some version of it on their own.

So Travelling is the only big mystery, IMO.


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How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ? malekithe - 20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM 2097 Views
Ishamael may have had a hand in that... Froggles - 20/08/2010 04:45:39 AM 1363 Views
Agreed. Lord Haart - 20/08/2010 10:01:37 AM 1252 Views
You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering these weaves Shannow - 20/08/2010 10:08:10 AM 1359 Views
Re: You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:40:16 PM 1077 Views
These are good points. To some extent, it may be because our main characters are "gifted" channelers newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:57:49 PM 1122 Views
The bigger problem is minor characters copying the weaves so quickly... Shannow - 20/08/2010 09:14:25 PM 1161 Views
Lost Weaves Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM 1381 Views
Re: Lost Weaves *NM* Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:45:30 PM 668 Views
Not logical Shannow - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM 1358 Views
Re: Not logical Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM 1153 Views
All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking.. Shannow - 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM 1291 Views
All good points also. Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:48:49 PM 1639 Views
Re: Not logical Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:45:55 PM 1118 Views
Re: Not logical mmcleod - 21/08/2010 04:20:41 AM 1032 Views
you may have hit onto something with your last statement darius_sedai - 21/08/2010 05:06:59 PM 1116 Views
Re: you may have hit onto something with your last statement Ashaman_Luc - 23/08/2010 05:09:06 PM 1046 Views
If you go back and read the descriptions of the breaking, and think about the 3000 year cycle newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 04:37:02 PM 1216 Views
I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge. Gher - 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM 1204 Views
The need to learn a location to travel Ryan - 20/08/2010 05:58:48 PM 1089 Views
They could use Rand's trick from TGS. Gher - 21/08/2010 01:06:33 AM 1057 Views
You & Ryan make good points, esp on balefire/compulsion. In a shorter series, it'd make more sense newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:52:59 PM 1159 Views
My only theory... Nameless Ashaman - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM 1128 Views
The Strongest Died seems like a pretty valid theory to me... lodlom - 20/08/2010 06:14:29 PM 1270 Views
Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property Helene - 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM 1071 Views
Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM* newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM 501 Views
If they are secretive and protective, it's not a huge stretch that knowledge would be taken into the Helene - 21/08/2010 10:27:15 AM 1198 Views
It doesn't have to be logical... scooter - 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM 1212 Views
Idea? Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM 995 Views
But they weren't too weak malekithe - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM 1107 Views
That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers. Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM 1197 Views
How can you "write a weave down"? NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM 1175 Views
How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM* Sidious - 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM 1189 Views
figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM 539 Views
That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP... DomA - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM 1085 Views
OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM 538 Views
I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM 1123 Views
Me neither... DomA - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM 1147 Views
Mispost.. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:51:02 PM 591 Views
I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM 1093 Views
Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP DomA - 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM 1438 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM 1066 Views
When did she use that? *NM* Lord Haart - 25/08/2010 09:34:31 AM 509 Views
We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM 1374 Views
Elayne did use Moiraine's coin trick. Gher - 25/08/2010 06:09:27 PM 1215 Views
Likely from Vandene DomA - 21/08/2010 05:58:31 PM 1496 Views
Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw... Phelix - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM 1161 Views
one thing i've noticed Yunalesca - 23/08/2010 06:37:48 PM 1108 Views
Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism. Macharius - 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM 1080 Views
Passing on useful survival skills trumped esoteric lore during the War of Power and the Breaking RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 03:18:47 PM 1265 Views
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