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Re: On the limits of power Tor Send a noteboard - 20/08/2010 06:25:19 PM
Supposing it works, there are 1,260,000,000,000,000,000,000 liters of waters on our planet (1.26 X 10^21 liters). If you lose 10 liters per second with these Gateways, it would take 399,260,000,000 years (4 X 10^11 years)! to lose it all to space.


Where does 10 liters per second come from? If you open a gateway of 2 by 2 meters, the water would have to escape at a speed of 2.5 millimeters per second to make it 10 liters per second, and that hardly seems likely. I can't be bothered to actually calculate the speed, but I'd guess it would be at least several tens of meters per second, making it something like 100.000 liters per gateway per second. Of course, even if my numbers are correct, it would still take a good while to drain the oceans.

Also, refering to the earlier questions about the orbits of the Earth and the Moon, the Earth would stay in orbit around the Sun, as that orbit is independent of the mass of the Earth, while the Moon's orbit would increase in radius.
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If the Forsaken really wanted to defeat the Light - gateways at the bottom of the ocean... Shannow - 20/11/2009 02:02:59 PM 2035 Views
I've actually thought that would be a great way to make a power plant. Narg - 20/11/2009 02:48:21 PM 1023 Views
I t doesn't defy EXACTLY the laws of conservation guttering flame - 20/11/2009 03:02:16 PM 1340 Views
The Forsaken don't think like that Sidious - 20/11/2009 02:57:27 PM 1061 Views
I specifically referred to Ishamael, who shares none of those motivations with the other Forsaken... Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:11:26 PM 1277 Views
What in the world... outer space?? This is fantasy, not sci-fi *NM* BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 03:08:26 PM 523 Views
RJ has stated that channelers can Travel to other planets, even other solar systems... Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:12:37 PM 980 Views
I didn't expect him to answer that question, it was just something I was wondering about Ryan - 20/11/2009 04:06:53 PM 1016 Views
OK... BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 05:15:32 PM 896 Views
Moghedien talks about how they travelled to other stars in the Age of Legends... Shannow - 20/11/2009 06:09:17 PM 1121 Views
Because it is a world that is undergoing an industrial revolution Ryan - 21/11/2009 01:19:28 AM 916 Views
Tied off gateways dissappear after a while *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 03:15:56 PM 483 Views
No. Only if the knott is deliberately tied loosely... Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:20:18 PM 899 Views
This brings up an "Evil Wins, What Next?" scenario I've always wondered about Sandwich - 20/11/2009 03:39:14 PM 1037 Views
Nah Ryan - 20/11/2009 04:12:27 PM 895 Views
Read Sanderson's Mistborn trilogy. =) *NM* Rand al'Thor - 20/11/2009 07:18:01 PM 507 Views
The DO doesn't have the motivations of the forsaken, he doesn't think like a human... Napoleon62 - 22/11/2009 03:38:15 PM 1003 Views
They would have to know the bottom of the ocean very well to create. *NM* LlordNakcor - 20/11/2009 05:02:50 PM 441 Views
Wouldn't be too hard, given Rand's trick. *NM* BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 05:12:22 PM 564 Views
Intense preasure would kill you before you could weave or a hell of a shield bubble *NM* LlordNakcor - 20/11/2009 07:01:58 PM 582 Views
You're kidding right? LewsTherin10 - 20/11/2009 05:31:36 PM 938 Views
Yeah, this has actually been discussed Marshall - 20/11/2009 05:50:21 PM 1125 Views
Re: Yeah, this has actually been discussed Lohikaarme - 21/08/2010 02:19:15 AM 917 Views
Gateway "magic" accounts for this, or most gateways would have STRONG breeze Asha'man Warder - 20/11/2009 06:43:44 PM 1011 Views
Very conducive places, the bottom of the sea and outer space... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2009 07:01:56 PM 4382 Views
Knee jerk disagreement without thinking beyond: "I don't like the idea so let's flame it..." Shannow - 20/11/2009 07:12:38 PM 1161 Views
Actually... Rand al'Thor - 20/11/2009 09:15:39 PM 977 Views
And your response is even sillier ideas? Think for more than three minutes before responding again. fionwe1987 - 20/11/2009 11:08:59 PM 923 Views
I must say... this has been highly entertaining! *NM* BlackAdder - 21/11/2009 01:59:51 AM 923 Views
Yeah... I've been chuckling at this whole thread Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:23:51 AM 1039 Views
You need to go read FoH again... Shannow - 21/11/2009 03:35:01 AM 1019 Views
The Silliness Continues-Part IV of Shannow's crazy ways to commit suicide... fionwe1987 - 21/11/2009 05:44:34 AM 928 Views
Struggling a bit are you? Shannow - 21/11/2009 06:30:13 AM 959 Views
On the limits of power guttering flame - 21/11/2009 07:32:44 AM 957 Views
Great question. These fundamental issues are the REAL challenges to be overcome, yes... Shannow - 21/11/2009 07:50:46 AM 964 Views
Thanks guttering flame - 21/11/2009 08:03:28 AM 992 Views
Fluids CAN move across gateways on their own. We saw it with the draft of wind in tGS. *NM* BlackAdder - 21/11/2009 01:32:46 PM 512 Views
Oh, and regarding the new Travelling skill Nynaeve mentions in tGS... Shannow - 21/11/2009 08:03:45 AM 994 Views
Ah, thanks guttering flame - 21/11/2009 08:10:48 AM 911 Views
Actually, I just reread that passage, and now I'm confused again... Shannow - 21/11/2009 08:30:17 AM 933 Views
Its pretty simple... fionwe1987 - 21/11/2009 08:07:14 PM 884 Views
You don't learn a place when you Travel TO it... Shannow - 21/11/2009 08:23:11 PM 953 Views
The same issue again... fionwe1987 - 21/11/2009 08:58:37 PM 912 Views
No, you're wrong, and here are the quotes... Shannow - 22/11/2009 06:51:06 AM 1111 Views
That might mean nothing... fionwe1987 - 22/11/2009 06:37:33 PM 1000 Views
That does seem inconsistent... Legolas - 21/11/2009 09:25:52 PM 1199 Views
They might have shared Gateways, so only those who wove them know the area? *NM* Marshall - 21/11/2009 10:00:04 PM 452 Views
That has to be the first sensible question broached in this thread... Legolas - 21/11/2009 09:18:59 PM 1154 Views
Since Shannow seems to think disagreeing with him is EVIL... fionwe1987 - 21/11/2009 08:38:55 PM 945 Views
Re: On the limits of power Tor - 20/08/2010 06:25:19 PM 905 Views
Such a geek Camilla - 20/08/2010 08:08:11 PM 1177 Views
The One Power is completely impenetrable to regular matter Marshall - 21/11/2009 08:16:58 AM 884 Views
The simplest explanation'd be that GWs can't be opened in water, since it moves/changes constantly Lordling - 20/11/2009 07:27:08 PM 845 Views
Balefire is much, much easier . TheCrownless - 20/11/2009 08:50:24 PM 925 Views
Or balefire Rand. Wait a few generations near Dragonmount, kidnap all children born on the slopes... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/11/2009 09:07:46 PM 934 Views
The Forsaken DON'T want to defeat the Light. Rand al'Thor - 20/11/2009 09:18:42 PM 1028 Views
Why didn't Frodo and Sam just ride the Eagles to Mt. Doom, and toss the Ring then fly back? *NM* Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:35:17 PM 488 Views
lol Straight from www.HowMoviesShouldHaveEnded.com *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/11/2009 01:15:45 AM 456 Views
The Forsaken are still doing the Light's will. Great Lord of Chaos - 21/11/2009 01:42:16 AM 902 Views
Actually here's an even simpler idea: open a gateway into a Black Hole. *NM* BlackAdder - 21/11/2009 01:53:38 AM 568 Views
You can't...there aren't any Black Holes close enough... Shannow - 21/11/2009 03:22:38 AM 938 Views
Doubtful Marshall - 21/11/2009 03:29:35 AM 893 Views
Let me clarify...you CAN Travel to other solar system... Shannow - 21/11/2009 03:39:36 AM 968 Views
You're right, I just went back and checked the sources Marshall - 24/11/2009 12:04:09 AM 895 Views
Surely Moridin could channel enough of the True Power... *NM* BlackAdder - 21/11/2009 01:19:05 PM 417 Views
Moridin cannot channel any more of the True Power than he can of the One Power. Shannow - 21/11/2009 01:58:30 PM 853 Views
He managed to do great fits with the power he had. guttering flame - 21/11/2009 05:12:52 PM 852 Views
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