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You & Ryan make good points, esp on balefire/compulsion. In a shorter series, it'd make more sense newyorkersedai Send a noteboard - 20/08/2010 08:52:59 PM
The latter was a bigtime tool of the Shadow, something that must have had very few Lightside uses. The former was so horribly destructive that even the Shadow didn't want to use it.

Yeah, terangreal construction must have been quite complicated.

It's another thing that might have worked better if the series was shorter. There had to be reasons for the Lightside guys to have to walk and ride to places, and restrictions that would make their enemies a little harder to kill. This also adds more weight to scenes where our heroes learn (or re-discover) weaves that make their lives and missions easier. Since the series didn't wrap in 3 or 4 or 6 books, we've had all this extra time to wonder at the total loss of things like Flight - that weave, in particular, would've been quite handy during/after the breaking (unlike, perhaps, Traveling).
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How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ? malekithe - 20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM 2035 Views
Ishamael may have had a hand in that... Froggles - 20/08/2010 04:45:39 AM 1320 Views
Agreed. Lord Haart - 20/08/2010 10:01:37 AM 1200 Views
You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering these weaves Shannow - 20/08/2010 10:08:10 AM 1304 Views
Re: You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:40:16 PM 1032 Views
These are good points. To some extent, it may be because our main characters are "gifted" channelers newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:57:49 PM 1070 Views
The bigger problem is minor characters copying the weaves so quickly... Shannow - 20/08/2010 09:14:25 PM 1113 Views
Lost Weaves Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM 1332 Views
Re: Lost Weaves *NM* Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:45:30 PM 641 Views
Not logical Shannow - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM 1310 Views
Re: Not logical Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM 1097 Views
All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking.. Shannow - 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM 1250 Views
All good points also. Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:48:49 PM 1590 Views
Re: Not logical Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:45:55 PM 1076 Views
Re: Not logical mmcleod - 21/08/2010 04:20:41 AM 988 Views
you may have hit onto something with your last statement darius_sedai - 21/08/2010 05:06:59 PM 1070 Views
Re: you may have hit onto something with your last statement Ashaman_Luc - 23/08/2010 05:09:06 PM 992 Views
If you go back and read the descriptions of the breaking, and think about the 3000 year cycle newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 04:37:02 PM 1162 Views
I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge. Gher - 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM 1141 Views
The need to learn a location to travel Ryan - 20/08/2010 05:58:48 PM 1047 Views
They could use Rand's trick from TGS. Gher - 21/08/2010 01:06:33 AM 1017 Views
You & Ryan make good points, esp on balefire/compulsion. In a shorter series, it'd make more sense newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:52:59 PM 1100 Views
My only theory... Nameless Ashaman - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM 1068 Views
The Strongest Died seems like a pretty valid theory to me... lodlom - 20/08/2010 06:14:29 PM 1223 Views
Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property Helene - 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM 1025 Views
Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM* newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM 478 Views
If they are secretive and protective, it's not a huge stretch that knowledge would be taken into the Helene - 21/08/2010 10:27:15 AM 1146 Views
It doesn't have to be logical... scooter - 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM 1163 Views
Idea? Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM 943 Views
But they weren't too weak malekithe - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM 1063 Views
That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers. Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM 1144 Views
How can you "write a weave down"? NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM 1129 Views
How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM* Sidious - 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM 1160 Views
figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM 513 Views
That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP... DomA - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM 1023 Views
OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM 511 Views
I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM 1075 Views
Me neither... DomA - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM 1093 Views
Mispost.. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:51:02 PM 561 Views
I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM 1050 Views
Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP DomA - 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM 1384 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM 1020 Views
When did she use that? *NM* Lord Haart - 25/08/2010 09:34:31 AM 487 Views
We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM 1292 Views
Elayne did use Moiraine's coin trick. Gher - 25/08/2010 06:09:27 PM 1170 Views
Likely from Vandene DomA - 21/08/2010 05:58:31 PM 1437 Views
Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw... Phelix - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM 1108 Views
one thing i've noticed Yunalesca - 23/08/2010 06:37:48 PM 1047 Views
Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism. Macharius - 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM 1031 Views
Passing on useful survival skills trumped esoteric lore during the War of Power and the Breaking RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 03:18:47 PM 1209 Views
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