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You & Ryan make good points, esp on balefire/compulsion. In a shorter series, it'd make more sense newyorkersedai Send a noteboard - 20/08/2010 08:52:59 PM
The latter was a bigtime tool of the Shadow, something that must have had very few Lightside uses. The former was so horribly destructive that even the Shadow didn't want to use it.

Yeah, terangreal construction must have been quite complicated.

It's another thing that might have worked better if the series was shorter. There had to be reasons for the Lightside guys to have to walk and ride to places, and restrictions that would make their enemies a little harder to kill. This also adds more weight to scenes where our heroes learn (or re-discover) weaves that make their lives and missions easier. Since the series didn't wrap in 3 or 4 or 6 books, we've had all this extra time to wonder at the total loss of things like Flight - that weave, in particular, would've been quite handy during/after the breaking (unlike, perhaps, Traveling).
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How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ? malekithe - 20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM 1911 Views
Ishamael may have had a hand in that... Froggles - 20/08/2010 04:45:39 AM 1237 Views
Agreed. Lord Haart - 20/08/2010 10:01:37 AM 1116 Views
You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering these weaves Shannow - 20/08/2010 10:08:10 AM 1228 Views
Re: You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:40:16 PM 945 Views
These are good points. To some extent, it may be because our main characters are "gifted" channelers newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:57:49 PM 1001 Views
The bigger problem is minor characters copying the weaves so quickly... Shannow - 20/08/2010 09:14:25 PM 1025 Views
Lost Weaves Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM 1232 Views
Re: Lost Weaves *NM* Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:45:30 PM 591 Views
Not logical Shannow - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM 1218 Views
Re: Not logical Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM 1018 Views
All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking.. Shannow - 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM 1163 Views
All good points also. Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:48:49 PM 1483 Views
Re: Not logical Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:45:55 PM 980 Views
Re: Not logical mmcleod - 21/08/2010 04:20:41 AM 912 Views
you may have hit onto something with your last statement darius_sedai - 21/08/2010 05:06:59 PM 991 Views
Re: you may have hit onto something with your last statement Ashaman_Luc - 23/08/2010 05:09:06 PM 912 Views
If you go back and read the descriptions of the breaking, and think about the 3000 year cycle newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 04:37:02 PM 1072 Views
I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge. Gher - 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM 1038 Views
The need to learn a location to travel Ryan - 20/08/2010 05:58:48 PM 968 Views
They could use Rand's trick from TGS. Gher - 21/08/2010 01:06:33 AM 929 Views
You & Ryan make good points, esp on balefire/compulsion. In a shorter series, it'd make more sense newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:52:59 PM 1020 Views
My only theory... Nameless Ashaman - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM 985 Views
The Strongest Died seems like a pretty valid theory to me... lodlom - 20/08/2010 06:14:29 PM 1132 Views
Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property Helene - 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM 929 Views
Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM* newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM 429 Views
If they are secretive and protective, it's not a huge stretch that knowledge would be taken into the Helene - 21/08/2010 10:27:15 AM 1064 Views
It doesn't have to be logical... scooter - 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM 1079 Views
Idea? Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM 862 Views
But they weren't too weak malekithe - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM 967 Views
That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers. Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM 1058 Views
How can you "write a weave down"? NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM 1048 Views
How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM* Sidious - 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM 1114 Views
figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM 463 Views
That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP... DomA - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM 940 Views
OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM 466 Views
I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM 993 Views
Me neither... DomA - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM 996 Views
Mispost.. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:51:02 PM 522 Views
I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM 961 Views
Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP DomA - 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM 1301 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM 929 Views
When did she use that? *NM* Lord Haart - 25/08/2010 09:34:31 AM 446 Views
We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM 1153 Views
Elayne did use Moiraine's coin trick. Gher - 25/08/2010 06:09:27 PM 1072 Views
Likely from Vandene DomA - 21/08/2010 05:58:31 PM 1343 Views
Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw... Phelix - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM 1018 Views
one thing i've noticed Yunalesca - 23/08/2010 06:37:48 PM 957 Views
Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism. Macharius - 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM 932 Views
Passing on useful survival skills trumped esoteric lore during the War of Power and the Breaking RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 03:18:47 PM 1111 Views
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