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The bigger problem is minor characters copying the weaves so quickly... Shannow Send a noteboard - 20/08/2010 09:14:25 PM
Whether it's Nynaeve, Egwene, or Rand, these folks seem super-gifted and precocious. In the case of Rand, he's got an unfair advantage with his special AoL knowledge.
Still, the ease of acquiring this knowledge is a bit excessive...


Like Blossoms of Fire and Deathgates used by the Ashaman at the Manor, and Alviarin learning Traveling so easily.

These aren't gifted channelers. Some of them are not even average.

How do you lose a weave if it just takes a second's glance at the flows to learn how to copy it.
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How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ? malekithe - 20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM 2099 Views
Ishamael may have had a hand in that... Froggles - 20/08/2010 04:45:39 AM 1365 Views
Agreed. Lord Haart - 20/08/2010 10:01:37 AM 1252 Views
You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering these weaves Shannow - 20/08/2010 10:08:10 AM 1361 Views
Re: You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:40:16 PM 1078 Views
These are good points. To some extent, it may be because our main characters are "gifted" channelers newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:57:49 PM 1122 Views
The bigger problem is minor characters copying the weaves so quickly... Shannow - 20/08/2010 09:14:25 PM 1163 Views
Lost Weaves Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM 1383 Views
Re: Lost Weaves *NM* Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:45:30 PM 668 Views
Not logical Shannow - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM 1358 Views
Re: Not logical Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM 1154 Views
All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking.. Shannow - 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM 1293 Views
All good points also. Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:48:49 PM 1639 Views
Re: Not logical Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:45:55 PM 1119 Views
Re: Not logical mmcleod - 21/08/2010 04:20:41 AM 1033 Views
you may have hit onto something with your last statement darius_sedai - 21/08/2010 05:06:59 PM 1117 Views
Re: you may have hit onto something with your last statement Ashaman_Luc - 23/08/2010 05:09:06 PM 1046 Views
If you go back and read the descriptions of the breaking, and think about the 3000 year cycle newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 04:37:02 PM 1216 Views
I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge. Gher - 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM 1204 Views
The need to learn a location to travel Ryan - 20/08/2010 05:58:48 PM 1090 Views
They could use Rand's trick from TGS. Gher - 21/08/2010 01:06:33 AM 1057 Views
You & Ryan make good points, esp on balefire/compulsion. In a shorter series, it'd make more sense newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:52:59 PM 1159 Views
My only theory... Nameless Ashaman - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM 1129 Views
The Strongest Died seems like a pretty valid theory to me... lodlom - 20/08/2010 06:14:29 PM 1271 Views
Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property Helene - 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM 1071 Views
Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM* newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM 501 Views
If they are secretive and protective, it's not a huge stretch that knowledge would be taken into the Helene - 21/08/2010 10:27:15 AM 1198 Views
It doesn't have to be logical... scooter - 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM 1213 Views
Idea? Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM 997 Views
But they weren't too weak malekithe - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM 1108 Views
That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers. Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM 1198 Views
How can you "write a weave down"? NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM 1176 Views
How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM* Sidious - 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM 1189 Views
figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM 539 Views
That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP... DomA - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM 1085 Views
OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM 538 Views
I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM 1125 Views
Me neither... DomA - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM 1149 Views
Mispost.. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:51:02 PM 591 Views
I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM 1095 Views
Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP DomA - 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM 1440 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM 1067 Views
When did she use that? *NM* Lord Haart - 25/08/2010 09:34:31 AM 509 Views
We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM 1375 Views
Elayne did use Moiraine's coin trick. Gher - 25/08/2010 06:09:27 PM 1216 Views
Likely from Vandene DomA - 21/08/2010 05:58:31 PM 1498 Views
Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw... Phelix - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM 1161 Views
one thing i've noticed Yunalesca - 23/08/2010 06:37:48 PM 1109 Views
Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism. Macharius - 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM 1082 Views
Passing on useful survival skills trumped esoteric lore during the War of Power and the Breaking RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 03:18:47 PM 1265 Views
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