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But they weren't too weak malekithe Send a noteboard - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM
Most of the female Aes Sedai died before the end of the breaking. The ones that did survive died before they could pass on their entire knowledge, or the Aes Sedai that came after were too weak to use it.



They were not too weak because even thousands of years later there are channelers, loads of them who are strong enough to channel these weaves. Specifically Travelling seems easy for anyone who is strong enough and it seems like MANY women are strong enough alone.
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How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ? malekithe - 20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM 2035 Views
Ishamael may have had a hand in that... Froggles - 20/08/2010 04:45:39 AM 1320 Views
Agreed. Lord Haart - 20/08/2010 10:01:37 AM 1200 Views
You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering these weaves Shannow - 20/08/2010 10:08:10 AM 1304 Views
Re: You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:40:16 PM 1032 Views
These are good points. To some extent, it may be because our main characters are "gifted" channelers newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:57:49 PM 1070 Views
The bigger problem is minor characters copying the weaves so quickly... Shannow - 20/08/2010 09:14:25 PM 1112 Views
Lost Weaves Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM 1332 Views
Re: Lost Weaves *NM* Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:45:30 PM 641 Views
Not logical Shannow - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM 1307 Views
Re: Not logical Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM 1095 Views
All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking.. Shannow - 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM 1250 Views
All good points also. Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:48:49 PM 1590 Views
Re: Not logical Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:45:55 PM 1076 Views
Re: Not logical mmcleod - 21/08/2010 04:20:41 AM 987 Views
you may have hit onto something with your last statement darius_sedai - 21/08/2010 05:06:59 PM 1068 Views
Re: you may have hit onto something with your last statement Ashaman_Luc - 23/08/2010 05:09:06 PM 992 Views
If you go back and read the descriptions of the breaking, and think about the 3000 year cycle newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 04:37:02 PM 1160 Views
I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge. Gher - 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM 1140 Views
The need to learn a location to travel Ryan - 20/08/2010 05:58:48 PM 1046 Views
They could use Rand's trick from TGS. Gher - 21/08/2010 01:06:33 AM 1017 Views
You & Ryan make good points, esp on balefire/compulsion. In a shorter series, it'd make more sense newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:52:59 PM 1098 Views
My only theory... Nameless Ashaman - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM 1067 Views
The Strongest Died seems like a pretty valid theory to me... lodlom - 20/08/2010 06:14:29 PM 1220 Views
Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property Helene - 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM 1024 Views
Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM* newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM 478 Views
If they are secretive and protective, it's not a huge stretch that knowledge would be taken into the Helene - 21/08/2010 10:27:15 AM 1144 Views
It doesn't have to be logical... scooter - 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM 1162 Views
Idea? Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM 943 Views
But they weren't too weak malekithe - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM 1062 Views
That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers. Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM 1142 Views
How can you "write a weave down"? NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM 1129 Views
How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM* Sidious - 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM 1160 Views
figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM 513 Views
That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP... DomA - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM 1022 Views
OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM 511 Views
I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM 1072 Views
Me neither... DomA - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM 1093 Views
Mispost.. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:51:02 PM 561 Views
I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM 1050 Views
Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP DomA - 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM 1384 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM 1019 Views
When did she use that? *NM* Lord Haart - 25/08/2010 09:34:31 AM 487 Views
We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM 1289 Views
Elayne did use Moiraine's coin trick. Gher - 25/08/2010 06:09:27 PM 1169 Views
Likely from Vandene DomA - 21/08/2010 05:58:31 PM 1437 Views
Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw... Phelix - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM 1108 Views
one thing i've noticed Yunalesca - 23/08/2010 06:37:48 PM 1046 Views
Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism. Macharius - 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM 1031 Views
Passing on useful survival skills trumped esoteric lore during the War of Power and the Breaking RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 03:18:47 PM 1209 Views
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