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I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM
What I think happened is, just as with Egwene figuring out how to create the Skimming effect by applying theoretical principles of saidar to Moghedien's suggestions, Moiraine might have read or heard about the properties of balefire and reasoned out that accomplishing such a feat might require all five flows and then dangerous guesswork as to how it might look and work.
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How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ? malekithe - 20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM 1936 Views
Ishamael may have had a hand in that... Froggles - 20/08/2010 04:45:39 AM 1260 Views
Agreed. Lord Haart - 20/08/2010 10:01:37 AM 1143 Views
You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering these weaves Shannow - 20/08/2010 10:08:10 AM 1249 Views
Re: You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:40:16 PM 965 Views
These are good points. To some extent, it may be because our main characters are "gifted" channelers newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:57:49 PM 1023 Views
The bigger problem is minor characters copying the weaves so quickly... Shannow - 20/08/2010 09:14:25 PM 1050 Views
Lost Weaves Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM 1263 Views
Re: Lost Weaves *NM* Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:45:30 PM 602 Views
Not logical Shannow - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM 1240 Views
Re: Not logical Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM 1036 Views
All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking.. Shannow - 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM 1182 Views
All good points also. Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:48:49 PM 1510 Views
Re: Not logical Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:45:55 PM 1016 Views
Re: Not logical mmcleod - 21/08/2010 04:20:41 AM 931 Views
you may have hit onto something with your last statement darius_sedai - 21/08/2010 05:06:59 PM 1009 Views
Re: you may have hit onto something with your last statement Ashaman_Luc - 23/08/2010 05:09:06 PM 937 Views
If you go back and read the descriptions of the breaking, and think about the 3000 year cycle newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 04:37:02 PM 1098 Views
I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge. Gher - 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM 1065 Views
The need to learn a location to travel Ryan - 20/08/2010 05:58:48 PM 994 Views
They could use Rand's trick from TGS. Gher - 21/08/2010 01:06:33 AM 957 Views
You & Ryan make good points, esp on balefire/compulsion. In a shorter series, it'd make more sense newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:52:59 PM 1038 Views
My only theory... Nameless Ashaman - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM 1009 Views
The Strongest Died seems like a pretty valid theory to me... lodlom - 20/08/2010 06:14:29 PM 1155 Views
Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property Helene - 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM 952 Views
Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM* newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM 437 Views
If they are secretive and protective, it's not a huge stretch that knowledge would be taken into the Helene - 21/08/2010 10:27:15 AM 1083 Views
It doesn't have to be logical... scooter - 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM 1107 Views
Idea? Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM 884 Views
But they weren't too weak malekithe - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM 998 Views
That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers. Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM 1079 Views
How can you "write a weave down"? NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM 1070 Views
How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM* Sidious - 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM 1126 Views
figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM 476 Views
That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP... DomA - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM 963 Views
OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM 478 Views
I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM 1016 Views
Me neither... DomA - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM 1021 Views
Mispost.. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:51:02 PM 535 Views
I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM 982 Views
Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP DomA - 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM 1322 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM 950 Views
When did she use that? *NM* Lord Haart - 25/08/2010 09:34:31 AM 455 Views
We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM 1188 Views
Elayne did use Moiraine's coin trick. Gher - 25/08/2010 06:09:27 PM 1096 Views
Likely from Vandene DomA - 21/08/2010 05:58:31 PM 1367 Views
Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw... Phelix - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM 1038 Views
one thing i've noticed Yunalesca - 23/08/2010 06:37:48 PM 987 Views
Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism. Macharius - 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM 957 Views
Passing on useful survival skills trumped esoteric lore during the War of Power and the Breaking RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 03:18:47 PM 1139 Views
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