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I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM
What I think happened is, just as with Egwene figuring out how to create the Skimming effect by applying theoretical principles of saidar to Moghedien's suggestions, Moiraine might have read or heard about the properties of balefire and reasoned out that accomplishing such a feat might require all five flows and then dangerous guesswork as to how it might look and work.
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How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ? malekithe - 20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM 1843 Views
Ishamael may have had a hand in that... Froggles - 20/08/2010 04:45:39 AM 1168 Views
Agreed. Lord Haart - 20/08/2010 10:01:37 AM 1057 Views
You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering these weaves Shannow - 20/08/2010 10:08:10 AM 1170 Views
Re: You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:40:16 PM 906 Views
These are good points. To some extent, it may be because our main characters are "gifted" channelers newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:57:49 PM 939 Views
The bigger problem is minor characters copying the weaves so quickly... Shannow - 20/08/2010 09:14:25 PM 974 Views
Lost Weaves Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM 1174 Views
Re: Lost Weaves *NM* Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:45:30 PM 570 Views
Not logical Shannow - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM 1149 Views
Re: Not logical Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM 960 Views
All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking.. Shannow - 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM 1104 Views
All good points also. Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:48:49 PM 1434 Views
Re: Not logical Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:45:55 PM 928 Views
Re: Not logical mmcleod - 21/08/2010 04:20:41 AM 859 Views
you may have hit onto something with your last statement darius_sedai - 21/08/2010 05:06:59 PM 945 Views
Re: you may have hit onto something with your last statement Ashaman_Luc - 23/08/2010 05:09:06 PM 859 Views
If you go back and read the descriptions of the breaking, and think about the 3000 year cycle newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 04:37:02 PM 1014 Views
I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge. Gher - 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM 974 Views
The need to learn a location to travel Ryan - 20/08/2010 05:58:48 PM 906 Views
They could use Rand's trick from TGS. Gher - 21/08/2010 01:06:33 AM 861 Views
You & Ryan make good points, esp on balefire/compulsion. In a shorter series, it'd make more sense newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:52:59 PM 969 Views
My only theory... Nameless Ashaman - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM 926 Views
The Strongest Died seems like a pretty valid theory to me... lodlom - 20/08/2010 06:14:29 PM 1074 Views
Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property Helene - 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM 880 Views
Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM* newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM 409 Views
If they are secretive and protective, it's not a huge stretch that knowledge would be taken into the Helene - 21/08/2010 10:27:15 AM 1009 Views
It doesn't have to be logical... scooter - 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM 1031 Views
Idea? Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM 809 Views
But they weren't too weak malekithe - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM 902 Views
That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers. Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM 1005 Views
How can you "write a weave down"? NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM 980 Views
How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM* Sidious - 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM 1092 Views
figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM 444 Views
That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP... DomA - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM 894 Views
OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM 446 Views
I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM 936 Views
Me neither... DomA - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM 948 Views
Mispost.. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:51:02 PM 505 Views
I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM 908 Views
Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP DomA - 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM 1246 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM 880 Views
When did she use that? *NM* Lord Haart - 25/08/2010 09:34:31 AM 423 Views
We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM 1067 Views
Elayne did use Moiraine's coin trick. Gher - 25/08/2010 06:09:27 PM 1008 Views
Likely from Vandene DomA - 21/08/2010 05:58:31 PM 1268 Views
Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw... Phelix - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM 966 Views
one thing i've noticed Yunalesca - 23/08/2010 06:37:48 PM 900 Views
Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism. Macharius - 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM 884 Views
Passing on useful survival skills trumped esoteric lore during the War of Power and the Breaking RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 03:18:47 PM 1053 Views
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