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But... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM
Moiraine knew the invisibility weave way before Elayne got it out of Moghedien. Since that isn't standard AS knowledge, it would seem Moiraine did indeed figure this out herself.
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How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ? malekithe - 20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM 1843 Views
Ishamael may have had a hand in that... Froggles - 20/08/2010 04:45:39 AM 1168 Views
Agreed. Lord Haart - 20/08/2010 10:01:37 AM 1056 Views
You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering these weaves Shannow - 20/08/2010 10:08:10 AM 1168 Views
Re: You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:40:16 PM 906 Views
These are good points. To some extent, it may be because our main characters are "gifted" channelers newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:57:49 PM 938 Views
The bigger problem is minor characters copying the weaves so quickly... Shannow - 20/08/2010 09:14:25 PM 974 Views
Lost Weaves Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM 1174 Views
Re: Lost Weaves *NM* Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:45:30 PM 570 Views
Not logical Shannow - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM 1149 Views
Re: Not logical Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM 960 Views
All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking.. Shannow - 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM 1104 Views
All good points also. Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:48:49 PM 1434 Views
Re: Not logical Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:45:55 PM 927 Views
Re: Not logical mmcleod - 21/08/2010 04:20:41 AM 859 Views
you may have hit onto something with your last statement darius_sedai - 21/08/2010 05:06:59 PM 944 Views
Re: you may have hit onto something with your last statement Ashaman_Luc - 23/08/2010 05:09:06 PM 858 Views
If you go back and read the descriptions of the breaking, and think about the 3000 year cycle newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 04:37:02 PM 1014 Views
I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge. Gher - 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM 974 Views
The need to learn a location to travel Ryan - 20/08/2010 05:58:48 PM 906 Views
They could use Rand's trick from TGS. Gher - 21/08/2010 01:06:33 AM 861 Views
You & Ryan make good points, esp on balefire/compulsion. In a shorter series, it'd make more sense newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:52:59 PM 968 Views
My only theory... Nameless Ashaman - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM 926 Views
The Strongest Died seems like a pretty valid theory to me... lodlom - 20/08/2010 06:14:29 PM 1074 Views
Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property Helene - 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM 880 Views
Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM* newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM 409 Views
If they are secretive and protective, it's not a huge stretch that knowledge would be taken into the Helene - 21/08/2010 10:27:15 AM 1008 Views
It doesn't have to be logical... scooter - 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM 1031 Views
Idea? Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM 809 Views
But they weren't too weak malekithe - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM 902 Views
That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers. Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM 1005 Views
How can you "write a weave down"? NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM 980 Views
How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM* Sidious - 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM 1092 Views
figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM 444 Views
That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP... DomA - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM 894 Views
OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM 446 Views
I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM 935 Views
Me neither... DomA - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM 948 Views
Mispost.. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:51:02 PM 505 Views
I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM 908 Views
Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP DomA - 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM 1244 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM 879 Views
When did she use that? *NM* Lord Haart - 25/08/2010 09:34:31 AM 423 Views
We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM 1067 Views
Elayne did use Moiraine's coin trick. Gher - 25/08/2010 06:09:27 PM 1008 Views
Likely from Vandene DomA - 21/08/2010 05:58:31 PM 1268 Views
Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw... Phelix - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM 966 Views
one thing i've noticed Yunalesca - 23/08/2010 06:37:48 PM 899 Views
Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism. Macharius - 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM 884 Views
Passing on useful survival skills trumped esoteric lore during the War of Power and the Breaking RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 03:18:47 PM 1053 Views
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