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Passing on useful survival skills trumped esoteric lore during the War of Power and the Breaking RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 25/08/2010 03:18:47 PM
A weave that might be useful in one context might not be useful in another. Variations of Healing without a Talent for Healing, for example, makes the weave worthless to another channeler.

I think we could also look at the ritualistic practices surrounding the Test for the Shawl. It seems that most of the initiates learn the more useful weaves during their Accepted period of learning. Yet many of the weaves they have to learn to pass the Test are said to be "useless" or of a limited value. It is possible that some of these worthless weaves, in another context and given the right situation, are useful. Perhaps one of the weaves they are taught was the sonar-creating one used by the Wise Ones - but since no pregnant woman is nearby to test it on, it doesn't do anything. Also likely, is that those weaves might be variations or weakened versions of older weaves - when Sorilea showed Cadsuane the Travelling weave, for example, it was so flimsy and weak that it collapsed before it could create an effect. It could be the case that a similarly weak channeler, trying to pass this weave on to a younger person or student, could only roughly duplicate the matrix needed, in which case the younger student has a weave that doesn't seem to work, and which they don't have the technique to use. The chances of that weave being passed on become very low compared to a fireball or basic healing matrix of flows.
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Not logical - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM 1083 Views
Re: Not logical - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM 909 Views
All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking.. - 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM 1036 Views
All good points also. - 20/08/2010 03:48:49 PM 1383 Views
Re: Not logical - 20/08/2010 03:45:55 PM 878 Views
Re: Not logical - 21/08/2010 04:20:41 AM 807 Views
you may have hit onto something with your last statement - 21/08/2010 05:06:59 PM 897 Views
Re: you may have hit onto something with your last statement - 23/08/2010 05:09:06 PM 806 Views
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They could use Rand's trick from TGS. - 21/08/2010 01:06:33 AM 811 Views
My only theory... - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM 868 Views
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Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM* - 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM 373 Views
It doesn't have to be logical... - 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM 978 Views
Idea? - 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM 768 Views
But they weren't too weak - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM 846 Views
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How can you "write a weave down"? - 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM 905 Views
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figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM* - 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM 410 Views
That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP... - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM 845 Views
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I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM 873 Views
Me neither... - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM 907 Views
Mispost.. *NM* - 25/08/2010 02:51:02 PM 476 Views
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Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP - 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM 1183 Views
But... - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM 828 Views
When did she use that? *NM* - 25/08/2010 09:34:31 AM 390 Views
We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC - 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM 996 Views
Elayne did use Moiraine's coin trick. - 25/08/2010 06:09:27 PM 952 Views
Likely from Vandene - 21/08/2010 05:58:31 PM 1193 Views
Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw... - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM 917 Views
one thing i've noticed - 23/08/2010 06:37:48 PM 858 Views
Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism. - 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM 825 Views
Passing on useful survival skills trumped esoteric lore during the War of Power and the Breaking - 25/08/2010 03:18:47 PM 1008 Views

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