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Re: Serious ramblings about WOT Andreas Sedai Send a noteboard - 09/12/2010 04:44:47 AM
Mat is hopelessly misogynistic? Care to elaborate on that?
No problem. His views of women of power seems to be annoyance that he is not allowed to decide what they should do. The Aes Sedai he traveled with for a long time were probably 100+ years (Teslyn at least was a Sitter, Joline too, I seem to remember), but he seemed to think they should shut up and do what he -- 20 years old -- thought was best. Even in small things, and in things they would likely be much better than him in. I am not going to go into any psychoanalytic approach to his distrust for Aes Sedai in general, though I see a path to their being physically stronger than him so he is unsure around them. But that is a bit speculative. But he is generally disrespectful to powerful women, even Tuon, and other women he judges purely on their skill to please him (Verin=traveling, Aludra=firepower, etc) or pure looks, particularly "bosoms" and "bottoms." Women, in his world view, are things to fondle or things to annoy, or sometimes okay as tools if they shut up and does what he wants. To compare that to his relationship with men, like Thom and Perrin and Lan which surpasses these traits... well, it is not a good trait. But I might be unfair to the poor bloke. He just stepped on my toes early on...

I am sure Elayne knows that there is no way in hell the Cairhienien nobility would accept a Whitecloak for a king.
If she was as crafty as people would have her to be, she would be able to get around that. Galad would of course have to step down as a Whitecloak, but his service with them could easily be portrayed as a step on military training, and an attempt to either infiltrate or reform the Whitecloaks to get them to fight for the light in the last battle. His strict morality is also more fit in a feudal king than Elayne's erratic, spoiled and power-hungry behavior.
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It's more that Mat doesn't like to be bossed around by ANYONE - 09/12/2010 03:28:53 PM 713 Views
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Mat respects the women who give him a reason to respect them - 09/12/2010 06:48:53 PM 855 Views
Tylin raped Mat. *NM* - 09/12/2010 09:23:00 PM 1117 Views
Way off - 23/12/2010 12:03:03 PM 779 Views
Er... why should she go to such effort for Galad? - 09/12/2010 03:20:31 PM 923 Views
Pretty much. - 10/12/2010 09:59:07 PM 915 Views
Very interesting. - 09/12/2010 05:50:23 AM 1058 Views
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Well - 09/12/2010 06:10:23 AM 855 Views
hrmm - 09/12/2010 07:52:08 AM 851 Views
Elayne rantage - 09/12/2010 11:46:29 AM 839 Views
*raises hand* - 09/12/2010 09:41:47 PM 800 Views
Hm, I don't think so... - 09/12/2010 10:47:38 PM 840 Views
Oddly enough, I'd say that the WOMEN all seem to be cut from the same cloth - 09/12/2010 03:10:43 PM 836 Views
Besides - 09/12/2010 03:40:06 PM 772 Views
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Excellent post - 22/12/2010 04:29:38 PM 697 Views
Hear, hear. *NM* - 23/12/2010 03:02:57 AM 363 Views
Just want to agree with you re: Egwene/Elayne. - 22/12/2010 03:40:39 PM 938 Views

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