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Re: It depends on Rand's sperm I guess saidarisnowtainted Send a noteboard - 30/12/2010 04:02:31 PM
the only way i can see anything changing for the future would be if Avienda could be present at the time the pact is entered. Could the timing work? She is the only person who would put two and two together and maybe help avoid this bleak future.

If DomA is right and the future Avi saw was pre VoG, when Rand was the Dark Rand, then it's possible that new Rand, the Light Rand, could pass alone some Light genes to his Aiel kids. After all, his kids were the ones that started all this dark future in the first place.


I don't think it was Dark Rand's viewing she saw. The viewing shows an important part of Rand's legacy, namely the Peace of the Dragon, which Light Rand heavily implies he will request as part of his price to fight the Dark One.

And of course, there is no post-TG viewing for a Dark Rand. The wolves made that clear.


I should have read this before i replied. As always, you have expressed the point succinctly and accurately.
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Timing - 28/12/2010 06:43:32 PM 1796 Views
Indeed...the bleak future makes the Last Battle almost an anti-climax... - 28/12/2010 08:20:31 PM 1882 Views
And yet, the only places of relative peace and shelter right now are Seanchan controlled lands. - 29/12/2010 03:21:37 AM 1440 Views
+1. - 29/12/2010 04:04:02 AM 1240 Views
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Those who would give up permanent liberty in exchange for temporary security, deserve neither.. - 29/12/2010 10:27:35 AM 1239 Views
Says the person defending monarchies and oligarchies, some of them quite brutal. - 29/12/2010 02:12:56 PM 1212 Views
LoL. What is this "POV trap" that people refer to so often to make a point? - 29/12/2010 10:00:11 PM 1305 Views
"romantic characteristics" - 07/01/2011 06:06:31 AM 1071 Views
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Don't blame the Seanchan, The Aiel made an excuse to start a war. - 08/01/2011 09:20:36 AM 1427 Views
Re: Those who would give up permanent liberty in exchange for temporary security, deserve neither.. - 29/12/2010 03:06:16 PM 1334 Views
Exactly. *NM* - 30/12/2010 02:50:07 AM 799 Views
They are pretty close to evil. Slavery being the big thing, but the crushing social scale is far - 31/12/2010 06:45:59 PM 1072 Views
The Aiel sold slaves to Shara, does that make them evil? No society in Randland is without flaws. - 07/01/2011 05:10:32 AM 1264 Views
you are missing my point - 07/01/2011 11:31:11 PM 1186 Views
We haven't had a POV from a NON-high-ranking Seanchan - 08/01/2011 03:13:26 AM 24674 Views
As to Bethamin ... - 20/01/2011 04:46:36 PM 1171 Views
No, you're missing the point. Benevolence is irrelevant. - 08/01/2011 09:48:51 AM 1106 Views
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Well the Westlands aren't exactly modern Europe or USA either - 08/01/2011 11:00:31 AM 1107 Views
Re: Well the Westlands aren't exactly modern Europe or USA either - 09/01/2011 02:08:17 AM 1075 Views
That's funny, I'd choose modern day China in a second. - 09/01/2011 06:37:24 AM 1067 Views
Hong Kong is not an accurate representation of the rest of Modern China - 20/01/2011 04:50:20 PM 1076 Views
~sigh~ Cosmopolitan China is different than Rural China - 21/01/2011 01:00:17 AM 1090 Views
well there is also the fact that Hong Kong has different "rules" than even other major - 21/01/2011 05:38:46 PM 1113 Views
I'm not just talking about Hong Kong though... - 22/01/2011 09:36:20 AM 1147 Views
I've traveled extensively - 22/01/2011 06:02:47 PM 1080 Views
You've traveled to China extensively? - 22/01/2011 07:41:30 PM 1146 Views
Actually, China is changing. - 09/01/2011 06:32:58 AM 1127 Views
true to a point, yet China has been under one form or another of totalitarian rule for - 20/01/2011 04:57:37 PM 1092 Views
So? - 21/01/2011 01:20:18 AM 1190 Views
Double post *NM* - 21/01/2011 01:21:10 AM 623 Views
It's the comparative to the Seanchan empire I'm really getting at here, not saying China isn't - 21/01/2011 05:43:56 PM 1173 Views
I don't even know why China was brought up in the first place ~shrugs~ - 22/01/2011 10:04:59 AM 1015 Views
I totally agree with your last point, which is why I think RJ set them up to be the "Evil Empire" - 22/01/2011 06:12:46 PM 1100 Views
They're not entirely evil though, and RJ has written them that way - 22/01/2011 08:02:22 PM 1079 Views
not so much - 22/01/2011 09:54:38 PM 1052 Views
Your example is absurd. - 22/01/2011 10:53:06 PM 984 Views
Ah yes, the "Jews can kill you with their minds" argument. *NM* - 23/01/2011 05:32:23 PM 615 Views
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Couple of flaws here - 31/12/2010 06:54:13 PM 1087 Views
You are right, here is a better analogy - 03/01/2011 06:23:16 PM 1084 Views
Even Hitler didn't think Jews could kill people with their minds - 03/01/2011 07:22:09 PM 1139 Views
It depends on Rand's sperm I guess - 28/12/2010 08:27:59 PM 1190 Views
No, the Seanchan started it, by wanting to conquer the rest of the world... - 28/12/2010 08:31:27 PM 1275 Views
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Re: No, the Seanchan started it, by wanting to conquer the rest of the world... - 30/12/2010 03:56:55 PM 1156 Views
Because the Aiel are savages who have no place in a modern world - 28/12/2010 11:15:23 PM 1240 Views
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timeline in the books - 29/12/2010 03:34:45 PM 1212 Views
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Aviendha + Mat (and Seta and Bethamin) are the best hopes. - 09/01/2011 01:45:00 AM 1120 Views

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