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Re: An annoying gateway error. darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 31/12/2010 08:44:17 PM
Err... another one.

Mat and Elayne's plan to kill the gholam relied on forcing it through a gateway. Ignoring the question of whether it should be able to survive a gateway or not, there is still a hole in the plan to make the gateway in the first place.

They hoped that the gholam would not notice the gateway if it was opened from "the other side" (in this case, the skimming place). The problem is that the place for this ambush was no pre-planned, so there is no way that one of the Aes Sedai or Kin could have Skimmed to that place.

The plan is broken, but not irrevocably so. All attempts of hiding the gateway by opening it from the other side would have to be abandoned (not that it did any good anyway). Hell, the gholam would probably charge right through a gateway if it saw an Aes Sedai trying to escape through it.


Well, neither Matt, nor the Kin would have any clue that shadowspawn cannot travel through Gateways ... Or that the Gholam is more perfected and can (BS answer if ever I heard one). As for knowing where to be the plan was clearly discussed before hand, likely having a predetermined spot for Mat to lead the Gholam.

I'm not sure why you ink it was not pre-determined.
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Yes, RJ confirmed that Shadowspawn can't survive gateways. *NM* - 24/12/2010 07:39:02 PM 573 Views
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What he said. No error. *NM* - 24/12/2010 01:01:23 PM 537 Views
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They prepared a place, and it just happened to be within walking distance of the attack? - 25/12/2010 09:44:34 AM 1181 Views
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Your quote shows what happened. - 26/12/2010 05:33:44 AM 1137 Views
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That would be an error if it hadn't been Skimming (the platform and what not) they were using. - 25/12/2010 02:29:39 AM 1110 Views
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I'm confused now as to what you're arguing. They knew the location of the house. - 26/12/2010 08:54:17 PM 1086 Views
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Please find me a supporting quote in one of the books. - 27/12/2010 12:48:45 PM 1134 Views
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