Active Users:623 Time:16/06/2026 01:48:41 PM
Forsaken chapter analysis Sidious Send a noteboard - 17/09/2009 04:19:07 PM
As usual, reading about my favourite characters was orgasmic. Just seeing the word Graendal made me want to be one of her pets.

These are the points I'd like to make about the chapter...

1. Graendal is indeed in Arad Doman, even though Asmodean doubted she still would be, and Rand wonders if she is. This looks like a head on collision between Rand and Graendal.

2. I found it odd that Graendal was bothered by the heat. Heat doesn't affect channelers, or anyone with the skill to ignore it. I recall that Sammael commented on Graendal's unnecessary weaves in her palace which make it cool, but this could also have been an error on Brandon's part.

3. A black fortress with black furniture in the Blight. I'm not surprised he fortified himself there.

4. It was obviously Graendal who killed Asmodean. She speaks of the seven remaining Chosen, once again not wondering about his fate. Even Aran'gar wondered about him in KoD.
Gah, just say it already Kamarile.

5. Demandred never smiled? Never seemed to enjoy anything? He laughed openly in KoD when Semirhage made a joke.

6. Graendal's thoughts on her peers interests me. As one of the deadliest of the Forsaken, her opinion counts when she says something. She clearly thinks that Semirhage and Demandred are very dangerous opponents, but she can't decide who is more dangerous. She initially thinks Semirhage, and then Demandred. She even thought that Semirhage was the leader of the trio. This further strengthens my belief that the the six top Forsaken are very similar. She then states that Mesaana is a second rate Forsaken who never achieved any great deeds such as Moridin, Semirhage and Demandred did. This sort of fits in well. Mesaana seems like a broken reed anyway. I just can't take her seriously anymore. I half expect her to cry when she speaks.

7. I like that Moridin makes the Forsaken stand when he walks in now, lol. I also particularly like the small reason why Demandred didn't sit - because I was surprised that he stood. It prevented him from having to stand for Moridin. Lol, it's all so childish, but it's delicious.

8. Who is 'our woman there' who saw Semirhage hurl fire at Rand? It could be Elza but it might be a secret darkfriend.

9. I think we can discount Moridin sending for Semirhage to be killed by Slayer. I thought that was a possibility. It's also important that Mesaana and Demandred see no way to get near to her, and actually need Moridin's help. Unfortunately for Semirhage, the Shadow isn't going to help her.

10. So Moridin and Rand are linked physically, and more tightly that we were initially led to believe. Rand's madness could be from Moridin's TP use. Who knows...

11. Where is Demandred? I hate that man, but I do wonder what he's up to. He has an army and somewhere to rule, so we'll see what he unleashes on the world. We're just going to have to wait for the last chapter of the series, lol.

12. Moridin may be training Graendal to be some sort of vice-Nae'blis, or just toying with her to get what he wants. It's difficult to say. She's going to kill someone close to him and teach him real agony I say. Graendal vs Rand... how much more obvious can it be?

A nice chapter... missing some Forsaken, but lots of information. A good effort from Brandon
Wheel of Time board admin
Fan of Lanfear
This message last edited by Sidious on 17/09/2009 at 04:32:46 PM
Reply to message
TGS Prologue - your thoughts (part 1) *spoilers* - 16/09/2009 04:56:20 AM 5696 Views
Re: TGS Prologue - your thoughts (part 1) *spoilers* - 16/09/2009 06:33:25 AM 1852 Views
TGS with Tracy Jordan *NM* - 16/09/2009 07:58:20 AM 836 Views
LOL. That's what I always think of as well! *NM* - 16/09/2009 03:27:27 PM 776 Views
My comments so far - 17/09/2009 05:42:58 AM 1859 Views
lol this is great... - 17/09/2009 06:37:47 AM 1553 Views
Why so many edits? *NM* - 24/09/2009 05:30:44 AM 886 Views
I said I was posting comments as I was reading it - 24/09/2009 06:19:09 AM 1373 Views
So has no one really read it yet or - 17/09/2009 06:55:52 AM 1398 Views
Re: So has no one really read it yet or - 17/09/2009 06:59:09 AM 1506 Views
Re: So has no one really read it yet or - 17/09/2009 07:00:16 AM 1647 Views
Slow down the Seanchan invasion maybe? - 17/09/2009 07:07:08 AM 1429 Views
Re: Slow down the Seanchan invasion maybe? - 17/09/2009 07:15:35 AM 1466 Views
Re: Slow down the Seanchan invasion maybe? - 17/09/2009 07:18:12 AM 1487 Views
Re: Slow down the Seanchan invasion maybe? - 18/09/2009 06:19:43 AM 1403 Views
Re: Slow down the Seanchan invasion maybe? - 24/09/2009 12:44:30 PM 1439 Views
First move in a full blown assualt. - 17/09/2009 09:37:00 PM 1476 Views
Re: So has no one really read it yet or - 17/10/2009 01:51:04 PM 1426 Views
Well, spoilers obviously... - 17/09/2009 06:59:01 AM 1863 Views
Maybe it was Demandred. - 17/09/2009 07:01:53 AM 1534 Views
I think it was Lanfear - 18/09/2009 01:31:33 PM 1564 Views
Hmmm...... that does sound like something she would do. *NM* - 18/09/2009 01:53:34 PM 750 Views
Re: Well, spoilers obviously... - 17/09/2009 07:02:34 AM 1642 Views
Re: Well, spoilers obviously... - 17/09/2009 07:09:10 AM 1541 Views
Demandred - 17/09/2009 08:57:11 PM 1506 Views
Re: Demandred - 17/09/2009 09:00:31 PM 1523 Views
I don't think Shara is an option - 17/09/2009 09:10:49 PM 1484 Views
Faile and Moridin biggest points of interest - 17/09/2009 07:16:10 AM 1623 Views
Re: Faile and Moridin biggest points of interest - 17/09/2009 07:23:15 AM 1567 Views
Re: Faile and Moridin biggest points of interest - 17/09/2009 07:30:46 AM 1657 Views
Re: Faile and Moridin biggest points of interest - 17/09/2009 07:37:36 AM 1464 Views
Cruel and shady? - 17/09/2009 07:24:34 AM 1576 Views
I agree. - 18/09/2009 06:29:07 AM 1444 Views
Re: I agree. - 18/09/2009 07:18:22 AM 1388 Views
Oh Honey, - 18/09/2009 07:37:53 AM 1190 Views
Lol - 18/09/2009 08:05:28 AM 1261 Views
- 18/09/2009 05:39:53 PM 1375 Views
Any idea who in Rand's group leaked the Semi capture, old Dark Friend or new? *NM* - 17/09/2009 07:32:22 AM 831 Views
Elza? *NM* - 18/09/2009 09:45:38 PM 875 Views
This is the only time I have ever liked Faile. Atta girl! *NM* - 17/09/2009 09:20:58 PM 767 Views
Was it just me..... - 17/09/2009 07:17:34 AM 1611 Views
B I'd guess - 17/09/2009 07:24:05 AM 1419 Views
A few thoughts - 17/09/2009 07:31:05 AM 1594 Views
Re: A few thoughts - 17/09/2009 07:53:41 AM 1562 Views
There are only two options - 17/09/2009 09:29:28 AM 1434 Views
Demmy - 17/09/2009 08:24:44 PM 1489 Views
Re: A few thoughts - 17/09/2009 07:09:52 PM 1389 Views
Re: A few thoughts - 18/09/2009 06:31:29 AM 1215 Views
Re: A few thoughts - 17/09/2009 07:41:24 PM 1355 Views
That's what first came to mind - 17/10/2009 02:30:12 PM 1619 Views
Help - can't find, need link - 17/09/2009 07:47:14 AM 1331 Views
It was Brilliant. A review. (Horrible spoilers and some quotes!) - 17/09/2009 08:02:15 AM 1692 Views
Re: It was Brilliant. A review. (Horrible spoilers and some quotes!) - 17/09/2009 08:13:07 AM 1297 Views
Ummm... why? - 17/09/2009 08:17:59 AM 1519 Views
Didn't mean in this book, I meant before series end *NM* - 17/09/2009 08:26:34 AM 875 Views
I think Min gets toasted - 17/09/2009 09:34:35 AM 1339 Views
That will happen regardless - 17/09/2009 08:47:51 PM 1294 Views
Doubt it - 18/09/2009 02:15:57 PM 1243 Views
Ahhh. - 18/09/2009 05:45:27 PM 1314 Views
What about Tam? *NM* - 18/09/2009 05:59:38 PM 798 Views
Tam! never thought of him....excellent choice. *NM* - 18/09/2009 06:05:22 PM 650 Views
Thanks. - 18/09/2009 06:06:34 PM 1334 Views
And right before she dies - 18/09/2009 09:09:45 PM 1300 Views
Ash'aman?! - 17/09/2009 03:51:09 PM 1403 Views
Moridin's servants are usually Zomoran. - 17/09/2009 04:22:16 PM 1662 Views
But maybe not here... maybe - 17/09/2009 04:30:40 PM 1428 Views
The logistics make it impossible... - 17/09/2009 04:36:27 PM 1546 Views
It's not impossible, or even unlikely - 17/09/2009 04:52:43 PM 1335 Views
I think it is... - 17/09/2009 06:34:04 PM 1381 Views
Agreed - 17/09/2009 04:28:27 PM 1441 Views
Re: Agreed - 17/09/2009 05:09:45 PM 1370 Views
Re: Agreed - 23/09/2009 01:16:35 AM 1364 Views
Oh my gosh, I never thought of that... - 18/09/2009 07:22:53 AM 1507 Views
Some major questions (The prologue has really got me psyched) - 17/09/2009 08:27:29 AM 1711 Views
Re: Some major questions (The prologue has really got me psyched) - 18/09/2009 03:04:40 AM 1544 Views
I wondered about Elza too - 23/09/2009 01:24:43 AM 1245 Views
I, for one, thoroughly enjoyed it - 17/09/2009 02:02:05 PM 1240 Views
Demandred, Moridin, or Lanfear? *spoilers* - 17/09/2009 03:31:41 PM 1768 Views
Forsaken chapter analysis - 17/09/2009 04:19:07 PM 1546 Views
Was it Brandon? - 17/09/2009 04:31:07 PM 1471 Views
- 17/09/2009 04:41:28 PM 1369 Views
Mesaana is definitely an Aes Sedai. - 17/09/2009 06:19:56 PM 1650 Views
About OP strength - 18/09/2009 09:28:45 PM 1373 Views
Re: About OP strength - 19/09/2009 01:20:32 PM 1173 Views
I actually think the evidence points to Graendal being weaker. - 18/09/2009 03:39:09 PM 1405 Views
Rand vs. Graendal? - 23/09/2009 01:41:02 AM 1271 Views
Thulin is my new fav - 17/09/2009 04:23:08 PM 1494 Views
Don't forget "lighter than a feather." *NM* - 17/09/2009 04:37:04 PM 829 Views
Go Thulin!! *NM* - 18/09/2009 06:55:20 AM 878 Views
Shara in Tarmon Gaidon and Darkfriend army - 17/09/2009 04:33:23 PM 1615 Views
Re: Shara in Tarmon Gaidon and Darkfriend army - 17/09/2009 08:51:15 PM 1501 Views
It seems more and more possiable - 18/09/2009 12:41:19 AM 1298 Views
Random thoughts - 17/09/2009 06:19:53 PM 1317 Views
Thoughts on Graendal's POV - 17/09/2009 07:31:04 PM 1389 Views
Re: Thoughts on Graendal's POV - 17/09/2009 08:06:54 PM 1285 Views
Bulgakov? *NM* - 17/09/2009 09:19:14 PM 894 Views
Re: Thoughts on Graendal's POV - 18/09/2009 03:31:57 AM 1342 Views
very happy with the prologue - 17/09/2009 09:46:20 PM 1423 Views
I gorged on it way too fast, when I should have savored it... - 17/09/2009 10:18:08 PM 1359 Views
Loved it. Especially the first part with the blacksmith.. - 17/09/2009 11:52:59 PM 1201 Views
Completely enjoyed it. (Obviously spoilers) - 18/09/2009 01:01:54 AM 1428 Views
Tylee - 18/09/2009 05:51:18 AM 1419 Views
That was my hope. - 18/09/2009 06:35:41 AM 1281 Views
Re: That was my hope. - 18/09/2009 08:12:02 AM 1366 Views
Re: That was my hope. - 18/09/2009 09:41:40 PM 1329 Views
Thought on Mesaana - 18/09/2009 01:13:48 AM 1352 Views
I wouldn't think it would be feasible. - 18/09/2009 02:59:26 AM 1275 Views
Still, the white does perhaps mean something - 18/09/2009 07:23:58 AM 1335 Views
Trollocs attack on the Seanchan - 18/09/2009 03:18:57 AM 2240 Views
Re: Trollocs attack on the Seanchan - 18/09/2009 04:50:44 AM 1524 Views
Trollocs Scouting party? - 18/09/2009 08:56:16 AM 1412 Views
Seems Demandred is the one doctoring Masema's mind - 18/09/2009 12:27:50 PM 1519 Views
Forsaken Chapter - 18/09/2009 10:42:33 PM 1691 Views
Okay. I've been out of the loop for months, sadly. - 25/09/2009 05:24:34 PM 1357 Views

Reply to Message