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Wait... what? fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 27/01/2011 11:16:32 PM

But here's the beauty of it: Even if the women shielding Logain were weaker than those holding Rand, they would all STILL be MUCH stronger than Daigian, who is less than half as strong as an average Aes Sedai.

So it is pretty much guaranteed that the women shielding Logain would all have been between 1.5 and 2 times stronger than Dagian, AT THE LEAST.

Why has any of this got to be true? Cadsuane makes it clear that it usually falls to the weakest women to hold shields. Which means it was women only somewhat stronger than Daigian who held Logain (and we know such women exist, from Egwene's comments on the women who went to test the residues after the Cleansing). Five such women could barely hold Logain, and Nynaeve could barely hold Logain. Seems clear that Nynaeve is about 6-8 Daigians at most.

And there's a simple reason why we can be fairly sure Egwene and co. aren't much weaker than Nynaeve. Not once do any of these women (especially Elayne) think about how much they need to defer to Nynaeve, even in public. Yet Elayne, for one, makes strength comparisons with other AS to determine the level of deference all the time. That's a subtle clue that Elayne is not much weaker than Nynaeve.
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Could Norla be the other woman stronger than Nynaeve? - 22/01/2011 06:54:36 PM 2420 Views
It's a nice idea, really - 22/01/2011 07:04:03 PM 1459 Views
we don't know the strength difference between Cadsuane and Nynaeve - 22/01/2011 08:55:48 PM 1399 Views
Nynaeve is of course roughly twice as strong as Cadsuane... - 24/01/2011 10:26:49 PM 1522 Views
Still sticking to the nonsense I see... - 25/01/2011 12:14:12 AM 1294 Views
you and your assumptions crack me up ... there is zero evidence that Nyn is 2x Cadsuane - 26/01/2011 04:41:33 PM 1337 Views
Waits for the candle flame vs. bonfire quote to appear... - 26/01/2011 05:01:28 PM 1370 Views
*blows out the friggin candle* ... why does anyone take EoTW Moiraine quotes seriously? - 26/01/2011 09:41:53 PM 1309 Views
tGH, but I agree... - 27/01/2011 04:58:08 AM 1461 Views
Re: tGH, but I agree... - 27/01/2011 07:29:15 AM 1225 Views
I think it's a matter of perspective too - 27/01/2011 05:12:29 PM 1170 Views
Nynaeve temporarily holds Logain shielded on her own, while 5 average strength Aes Sedai cannot... - 27/01/2011 05:35:26 PM 1144 Views
Another inconsistency ... since 4 women held a shield on Rand who is Stronger than Logain EDIT - 27/01/2011 07:47:31 PM 1226 Views
Not an inconsistency and if you analyse it... - 27/01/2011 08:21:39 PM 1463 Views
I'm not dismissing the quote I'm saying 6 weak women held Logain - 27/01/2011 09:21:34 PM 1241 Views
Wait... what? - 27/01/2011 11:16:32 PM 1162 Views
Re: Wait... what? - 28/01/2011 12:26:22 AM 1104 Views
Nope... - 28/01/2011 01:24:18 AM 1193 Views
Yeah, but... - 28/01/2011 12:53:26 PM 1261 Views
Therer is a direct quote in New Spring - 28/01/2011 02:20:40 PM 1200 Views
Yup... *NM* - 28/01/2011 02:42:15 PM 615 Views
Thanks - 28/01/2011 04:05:47 PM 1291 Views
Not really the case though - 28/01/2011 04:54:28 PM 1027 Views
That's your evidence? You mean like Caddy defers to Nynaeve? - 28/01/2011 02:29:46 PM 1199 Views
So Elayne is Cadsunae in you stupid play? - 28/01/2011 02:44:07 PM 1144 Views
Getting hot under the collar and irrational again, I see... - 28/01/2011 03:01:14 PM 1074 Views
right tGH but still! *NM* - 27/01/2011 04:02:57 PM 590 Views
It will be someone who was alive at some point during the series... - 22/01/2011 07:11:57 PM 1429 Views
it's obviously a stretch, just a random thought - 22/01/2011 08:26:49 PM 1385 Views
Possibly? But unlikely. - 23/01/2011 11:12:01 PM 1201 Views
The 6 are... - 24/01/2011 10:09:33 PM 1513 Views
I disagree. If anything Semirhage is at the same strength level - 24/01/2011 11:10:30 PM 1286 Views
Agree and disagree... - 25/01/2011 10:44:26 AM 1230 Views
Re: Agree and disagree... - 25/01/2011 11:04:11 PM 1169 Views
I didn't say Semirhage is definitely one of the 6, but his answer leaves it as a viable possibility. - 26/01/2011 07:36:52 AM 1283 Views
Not really - 26/01/2011 05:15:59 PM 1137 Views
Lanfear and Cyndane are the same person *NM* - 25/01/2011 10:24:15 AM 576 Views
Re: The 6 are... - 25/01/2011 10:51:40 PM 1353 Views
I agree. - 24/01/2011 03:56:00 PM 1141 Views
Possible... - 25/01/2011 12:17:42 AM 1139 Views
none whatsoever ... purely speculating here *NM* - 26/01/2011 04:44:15 PM 515 Views
Not necessarily - 25/01/2011 08:07:02 PM 1081 Views
nah - 25/01/2011 10:55:10 PM 1378 Views
it's obvious that Norla made her "earn" the ornaments - 26/01/2011 04:47:32 PM 1351 Views
Re: it's obvious that Norla made her "earn" the ornaments - 26/01/2011 05:17:16 PM 1248 Views
I can see that as a possibility too - 26/01/2011 10:22:02 PM 1205 Views
Re: I can see that as a possibility too - 27/01/2011 07:38:31 AM 1304 Views
we'll always disagree I suppose - 27/01/2011 04:47:42 PM 1262 Views
Strongest since the breaking? I disagree - 19/08/2011 01:09:37 PM 1512 Views
I doubt it. - 26/01/2011 03:53:33 AM 1230 Views
Could Norla be the other woman stronger than Nynaeve? - 26/01/2011 09:31:36 AM 1304 Views

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