New Spring
Coming Home
The higher she stands above you, the greater your deference. Failure in that is the third greatest rudeness, and third only by a hair. The most common reason for new sisters to be given penance is a misstep of that sort, and since the penance is set by the offended sister, it is seldom light. A month or two of Labor or Deprivation is the least you can expect. Mortification of the Spirit and Mortification of the Flesh are not unheard of."
Elayne has told Nynaeve that she would disobey her which a significantly weaker woman would never do according to the quote above
Winter’s Heart
A Plan Succeeds
But I would rather not disobey you, so don't, please.
While Elayne knows she should have some level of deference to Nynaeve, she is still willing to go directly against her wishes which is something others are not willing to consider when there is a significant gap in strength.
Siuan is meek as she can manage with even who are only somewhat stronger than her ...
The Path of Daggers
New Alliances
Siuan spent her days giving way to women who had jumped at her word a year earlier, smiling and curtsying for nearly every sister in the camp.
Siuan is bowing and scraping to even Middling Sisters...
A Crow of Swords
An Oath
Even Aeldene is [above Siuan] and she’s no more than middling.
But even still Siuan is still stronger than a good number of sisters in the camp so she can't be dramatically weaker than some of the average AS ... but deference is demanded...
Coming Home
The higher she stands above you, the greater your deference. Failure in that is the third greatest rudeness, and third only by a hair. The most common reason for new sisters to be given penance is a misstep of that sort, and since the penance is set by the offended sister, it is seldom light. A month or two of Labor or Deprivation is the least you can expect. Mortification of the Spirit and Mortification of the Flesh are not unheard of."
Elayne has told Nynaeve that she would disobey her which a significantly weaker woman would never do according to the quote above
Winter’s Heart
A Plan Succeeds
But I would rather not disobey you, so don't, please.
While Elayne knows she should have some level of deference to Nynaeve, she is still willing to go directly against her wishes which is something others are not willing to consider when there is a significant gap in strength.
Siuan is meek as she can manage with even who are only somewhat stronger than her ...
The Path of Daggers
New Alliances
Siuan spent her days giving way to women who had jumped at her word a year earlier, smiling and curtsying for nearly every sister in the camp.
Siuan is bowing and scraping to even Middling Sisters...
A Crow of Swords
An Oath
Even Aeldene is [above Siuan] and she’s no more than middling.
But even still Siuan is still stronger than a good number of sisters in the camp so she can't be dramatically weaker than some of the average AS ... but deference is demanded...
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
Could Norla be the other woman stronger than Nynaeve?
22/01/2011 06:54:36 PM
- 2240 Views
It's a nice idea, really
22/01/2011 07:04:03 PM
- 1308 Views
we don't know the strength difference between Cadsuane and Nynaeve
22/01/2011 08:55:48 PM
- 1250 Views
Nynaeve is of course roughly twice as strong as Cadsuane...
24/01/2011 10:26:49 PM
- 1364 Views
you and your assumptions crack me up ... there is zero evidence that Nyn is 2x Cadsuane
26/01/2011 04:41:33 PM
- 1183 Views
Waits for the candle flame vs. bonfire quote to appear...
26/01/2011 05:01:28 PM
- 1199 Views
*blows out the friggin candle* ... why does anyone take EoTW Moiraine quotes seriously?
26/01/2011 09:41:53 PM
- 1156 Views
tGH, but I agree...
27/01/2011 04:58:08 AM
- 1280 Views
Re: tGH, but I agree...
27/01/2011 07:29:15 AM
- 1077 Views
I think it's a matter of perspective too
27/01/2011 05:12:29 PM
- 1021 Views
Nynaeve temporarily holds Logain shielded on her own, while 5 average strength Aes Sedai cannot...
27/01/2011 05:35:26 PM
- 977 Views
Another inconsistency ... since 4 women held a shield on Rand who is Stronger than Logain EDIT
27/01/2011 07:47:31 PM
- 1065 Views
Not an inconsistency and if you analyse it...
27/01/2011 08:21:39 PM
- 1285 Views
I'm not dismissing the quote I'm saying 6 weak women held Logain
27/01/2011 09:21:34 PM
- 1099 Views
Circular logic...
27/01/2011 09:49:40 PM
- 1170 Views
Explain to me how Moghedien is only 60% of Lanfear and managed to do anything?
28/01/2011 06:25:28 PM
- 1291 Views
Easy. And I dispute that all 6 women shielding Logain were only 10% stronger than an Accepted.
29/01/2011 12:42:54 PM
- 968 Views
Not even gonna bother ... So many flawed statements in here it's not worth the effort to correct you *NM*
29/01/2011 04:50:01 PM
- 529 Views
Wait... what?
27/01/2011 11:16:32 PM
- 1009 Views
Re: Wait... what?
28/01/2011 12:26:22 AM
- 961 Views
Nope...
28/01/2011 01:24:18 AM
- 1038 Views
Yeah, but...
28/01/2011 12:53:26 PM
- 1100 Views
Therer is a direct quote in New Spring
28/01/2011 02:20:40 PM
- 1063 Views
Thanks
28/01/2011 04:05:47 PM
- 1125 Views
Not really the case though
28/01/2011 04:54:28 PM
- 899 Views
That's your evidence? You mean like Caddy defers to Nynaeve?
28/01/2011 02:29:46 PM
- 1038 Views
It will be someone who was alive at some point during the series...
22/01/2011 07:11:57 PM
- 1262 Views
Strength in the Power and skill in the Power are not the same thing.
22/01/2011 10:33:12 PM
- 1064 Views
true, but nearly 300 years ago when she was a new AS she had yet to learn that lesson
23/01/2011 04:49:33 PM
- 1047 Views
Possibly? But unlikely.
23/01/2011 11:12:01 PM
- 1032 Views
The 6 are...
24/01/2011 10:09:33 PM
- 1343 Views
I disagree. If anything Semirhage is at the same strength level
24/01/2011 11:10:30 PM
- 1142 Views
Agree and disagree...
25/01/2011 10:44:26 AM
- 1076 Views
Re: Agree and disagree...
25/01/2011 11:04:11 PM
- 1011 Views
I didn't say Semirhage is definitely one of the 6, but his answer leaves it as a viable possibility.
26/01/2011 07:36:52 AM
- 1118 Views
I'd disagree with that statement. I think he definitively ruled her out with his comment
26/01/2011 04:40:14 PM
- 927 Views
Lanfear and Cyndane are the same person *NM*
25/01/2011 10:24:15 AM
- 508 Views
I think Shannows' point is that even with reduced strength, Lanfear is still the most powerful
25/01/2011 05:30:34 PM
- 1062 Views
Re: The 6 are...
25/01/2011 10:51:40 PM
- 1162 Views
This seems like the most likely case to me, but Sommeryn is unsubstantiated to date
26/01/2011 04:43:27 PM
- 971 Views
I think there's a stronger case for Someryn than most women
26/01/2011 05:07:03 PM
- 1086 Views
I agree that she is the most likely candidate, but there is nothing beyond speculation
26/01/2011 09:45:27 PM
- 961 Views
Talaan isn't stronger. She is the same strength and has been actively channeling for 6 years
24/01/2011 11:14:31 PM
- 1078 Views
Not necessarily
25/01/2011 08:07:02 PM
- 930 Views
But that doesn't answer why a toothless wilder in a backwoods hut would have drawn
26/01/2011 04:49:33 PM
- 1007 Views
nah
25/01/2011 10:55:10 PM
- 1229 Views
it's obvious that Norla made her "earn" the ornaments
26/01/2011 04:47:32 PM
- 1186 Views
Re: it's obvious that Norla made her "earn" the ornaments
26/01/2011 05:17:16 PM
- 1078 Views
I can see that as a possibility too
26/01/2011 10:22:02 PM
- 1054 Views