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I think the general concensus is that after the CK she was forced to her full potential darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 05/02/2011 03:44:29 PM
forced by the female Choedan Kal?

If not, how much more in power can she grow?!

If yes, then ... well it's a pity really cuz I wanted my Nynaeve to be the uber Saidarwoman of the new Age. T_T


But to my knowledge it's not be overtly stated in the books. Same with Egwene, we know she's closer to her max than Aviendah or Elayne, but we don't know if she's at 100% either.
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Proof that Asmodean's effective One Power strength is greater than Moghedien's... Shannow - 03/02/2011 03:22:42 PM 2599 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 03/02/2011 04:08:29 PM 1604 Views
Why do you deliberately misquote the text? Shannow - 03/02/2011 04:12:50 PM 1722 Views
You're deliberately being obtuse... as usual... fionwe1987 - 03/02/2011 10:07:09 PM 1592 Views
Right. So Egwene can shield someone of Egwene's own strength, plus Elayne, AND weave a dozen flows.. Shannow - 03/02/2011 10:26:27 PM 1608 Views
fionwe1987 - 03/02/2011 10:46:40 PM 1419 Views
No. Egwene is very close to her full potential at the time... Shannow - 03/02/2011 11:44:20 PM 1649 Views
Bullshit... fionwe1987 - 04/02/2011 12:39:42 AM 1383 Views
Unbiased view... Nargs - 04/02/2011 01:46:40 AM 1522 Views
The WoT Board in a nutshell. *NM* Ghavrel - 04/02/2011 02:34:32 AM 771 Views
Yeah, thats unbiased... *NM* fionwe1987 - 04/02/2011 05:23:17 PM 689 Views
Don't agree Sidious - 04/02/2011 08:30:02 AM 1468 Views
Fair comment, but my question then is: Shannow - 04/02/2011 11:26:25 AM 1399 Views
I think the WO and Moiraine also Force Egwene as they know what's coming and need her darius_sedai - 04/02/2011 03:55:46 PM 1512 Views
It is specifically stated that Egwene was forced by the rigours of the damane training... Shannow - 04/02/2011 05:15:20 PM 1537 Views
Egwene has been continually forced... fionwe1987 - 04/02/2011 06:02:08 PM 1431 Views
The direct quotes contradict you... Shannow - 04/02/2011 06:23:03 PM 1535 Views
actually the quote substantiates that Egwene is only slightly stronger than Moiraine in TSR darius_sedai - 04/02/2011 07:51:10 PM 1564 Views
here ya go they were all Forced darius_sedai - 04/02/2011 07:59:40 PM 1346 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 04/02/2011 08:23:00 PM 1385 Views
I think you may have misused the term - RJ meant 'effective' to mean something a bit different. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2011 04:40:41 PM 1657 Views
Re: I think you are mistaking what RJ meant effective to mean. Shannow - 03/02/2011 05:30:15 PM 1466 Views
Re: I think you are mistaking what RJ meant effective to mean. Master Ablar - 03/02/2011 05:45:30 PM 1480 Views
Re: I think you are mistaking what RJ meant effective to mean. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2011 06:31:34 PM 1414 Views
Re: I think you are mistaking what RJ meant effective to mean. Kieran - 03/02/2011 07:06:50 PM 1455 Views
Re: I think you are mistaking what RJ meant effective to mean. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2011 07:17:25 PM 1374 Views
We still don't know who is effectively stronger, and not sure if Asmo was equal to Rand by the end. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2011 06:58:14 PM 1285 Views
See my post above, I would say Asmo is Weaker than Moggy... *NM* Kieran - 03/02/2011 07:10:07 PM 747 Views
I'm not certain either way. I think it all depends on the terms being used. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2011 07:22:01 PM 1428 Views
Effective strength means who can make the bigger fireball, the stronger shield, the thicker balefire Shannow - 03/02/2011 07:42:17 PM 1380 Views
I still hold to the point that your analogy is false. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/02/2011 04:20:05 PM 1354 Views
My impression of your view, in general, is that... Shannow - 03/02/2011 07:33:37 PM 1432 Views
How... fionwe1987 - 03/02/2011 10:15:34 PM 1297 Views
If Nynaeve could do to Egwene and Elayne what Rand did to them, then I rest my case... Shannow - 03/02/2011 10:36:46 PM 1532 Views
Re: If Nynaeve could do to Egwene and Elayne what Rand did to them, then I rest my case... fionwe1987 - 03/02/2011 10:50:57 PM 1482 Views
Got you now... Shannow - 03/02/2011 11:32:49 PM 1361 Views
You're clearly delusional... fionwe1987 - 04/02/2011 12:59:26 AM 1427 Views
You sound ridiculous Nargs - 04/02/2011 02:05:18 AM 1470 Views
Re: You sound ridiculous Kieran - 04/02/2011 02:23:50 AM 1514 Views
Ok... Nargs - 04/02/2011 04:13:34 PM 1291 Views
Elayne is not stronger than most AS at this point in the books darius_sedai - 04/02/2011 08:14:41 PM 1426 Views
Where on earth does it say Nynaeve could do to Egwene and Elayne what Rand did? darius_sedai - 04/02/2011 08:06:48 PM 1443 Views
Re: How... Sidious - 04/02/2011 08:34:21 AM 1482 Views
They're very close now... fionwe1987 - 04/02/2011 05:46:48 PM 1510 Views
That is unfortunately not true... Shannow - 04/02/2011 06:02:34 PM 1446 Views
It is... fionwe1987 - 04/02/2011 06:05:05 PM 1278 Views
Re: It is... Sidious - 04/02/2011 06:31:32 PM 1508 Views
Yup... fionwe1987 - 04/02/2011 08:20:33 PM 1289 Views
Semirhage hated Lanfear, but dared not act against her strength... Shannow - 04/02/2011 08:29:24 PM 1778 Views
yet Graendal showed a lot of respect for Semirhage ... even assumed she was the most darius_sedai - 04/02/2011 08:53:05 PM 1462 Views
Graendal on Semirhage and Demandred... Shannow - 04/02/2011 09:23:50 PM 1673 Views
No Sidious - 04/02/2011 11:10:00 PM 1423 Views
CLAPS *NM* darius_sedai - 05/02/2011 05:15:21 AM 771 Views
We will just have to disagree on this one... Shannow - 05/02/2011 06:57:36 AM 1264 Views
Indeed Sidious - 05/02/2011 07:38:10 AM 1268 Views
I agree with you ... especially abou the perpective issue darius_sedai - 05/02/2011 03:00:58 PM 1514 Views
I agree with you here darius_sedai - 04/02/2011 08:19:35 PM 1342 Views
I don't think that's true.. fionwe1987 - 04/02/2011 08:21:38 PM 1295 Views
the evidence is that Aginor burnt out trying to channel the Eye and Rand didn't darius_sedai - 04/02/2011 08:23:50 PM 1331 Views
Considering that Asmodean and Rand were using a sa'angreal... ˥ɐ ʎpu∀ɹ - 04/02/2011 04:55:03 AM 1584 Views
I think this is a no brainer Sidious - 04/02/2011 08:22:00 AM 1539 Views
The nice fact which is proven is the magnitude of the gap between Moghedien and Semirhage... Shannow - 04/02/2011 11:32:00 AM 1345 Views
Nynaeve could be at 90% or 80% when she faced Moghedien we have no way of measuring that darius_sedai - 04/02/2011 08:42:03 PM 1329 Views
Disagree... Shannow - 04/02/2011 08:51:55 PM 1431 Views
spin it all you like... I'm tired of this arument and your creative quoting. darius_sedai - 04/02/2011 08:56:14 PM 1328 Views
The creative quoter is Fionwe, not me. You quote correctly, but your interpretations are way off... Shannow - 04/02/2011 09:05:43 PM 1205 Views
Nynaeve has grown in strength, but she started nearly as strong as Moiraine! darius_sedai - 05/02/2011 05:35:05 AM 1400 Views
Starting out at Moiraine's strength meant starting out at barely 30% of her full potential... Shannow - 05/02/2011 07:05:46 AM 1407 Views
Nynaeve's strength Sidious - 05/02/2011 07:49:07 AM 1532 Views
Agree, Egwene has never been as strong as Nynaeve at any stage. *NM* darius_sedai - 05/02/2011 03:03:25 PM 812 Views
I disagree that Moiraine is 30% of Nynaeve. Much closer to 50% of Nynaeve. EDIT darius_sedai - 05/02/2011 03:02:06 PM 1472 Views
Minor quibbles aside... fionwe1987 - 05/02/2011 04:05:30 PM 1535 Views
Agreed, the exact numbers are arbitrary, I place Egwene a tad higher than you ... EDIT darius_sedai - 05/02/2011 04:30:00 PM 1334 Views
Re: Agreed, the exact numbers are arbitrary, I place Egwene a tad higher than you ... EDIT fionwe1987 - 05/02/2011 06:09:41 PM 1430 Views
shrugs darius_sedai - 05/02/2011 06:46:02 PM 1443 Views
Re: shrugs fionwe1987 - 05/02/2011 08:03:37 PM 1380 Views
I don't recall the Merise quote you are refering too and they have not been together in the series darius_sedai - 05/02/2011 09:20:56 PM 1302 Views
I'm sorry, I meant the glossary entry... fionwe1987 - 05/02/2011 10:29:46 PM 1274 Views
Thanks for clarifying darius_sedai - 05/02/2011 11:12:19 PM 1241 Views
Re: Thanks for clarifying fionwe1987 - 06/02/2011 12:42:51 AM 1342 Views
fair enough ... I can agree to Cadsuane and Bode both being 70 with Egwene and co at 80 *NM* darius_sedai - 06/02/2011 04:29:49 AM 673 Views
Cool! *NM* fionwe1987 - 06/02/2011 04:18:52 PM 676 Views
Sorry, but here your entire Bell Curve goes up in smoke... Shannow - 06/02/2011 01:13:15 PM 1224 Views
In fact, Moiraine is even STRONGER than I postulated in the above post... Shannow - 06/02/2011 01:22:11 PM 1679 Views
well... Sidious - 06/02/2011 02:11:02 PM 1415 Views
Only a separate Bell Curve for the Age of Legends - when the average strength was higher - will work Shannow - 06/02/2011 03:29:49 PM 1293 Views
Or, you know, the Aes Sedai aren't a representative sample... *NM* fionwe1987 - 06/02/2011 04:19:22 PM 787 Views
I don't think Strength was higher in the AOL I think there were just more channelers darius_sedai - 06/02/2011 04:50:42 PM 1381 Views
Yup. fionwe1987 - 06/02/2011 05:30:54 PM 1344 Views
Trivial darius_sedai - 06/02/2011 06:10:55 PM 1330 Views
Uhhh... no... fionwe1987 - 06/02/2011 04:18:19 PM 1239 Views
Read these facts slowly, maybe you will grasp the implication then... Shannow - 06/02/2011 04:41:02 PM 1309 Views
you are missing the fact that women like Sharina have no interest in the Tower darius_sedai - 06/02/2011 05:05:10 PM 1373 Views
You equate random exclusions with the deliberate block exclusion of 37.5% weakest women... Shannow - 06/02/2011 05:41:47 PM 1348 Views
wrong darius_sedai - 06/02/2011 06:08:20 PM 1505 Views
That is weak logic in the extreme... Shannow - 06/02/2011 06:16:46 PM 1358 Views
what I'm saying is that a representative sample of the entire population darius_sedai - 06/02/2011 06:40:51 PM 1365 Views
Yes. *NM* fionwe1987 - 06/02/2011 06:47:59 PM 747 Views
Yes. *NM* fionwe1987 - 06/02/2011 06:48:00 PM 669 Views
But you don't prove that the undiscovered women are stronger. They may well be weaker... Shannow - 06/02/2011 07:26:27 PM 1161 Views
Amys is far from the strongest WO! fionwe1987 - 06/02/2011 07:37:14 PM 1579 Views
Explain the 1000 women they found in Murandy then... fionwe1987 - 06/02/2011 06:26:46 PM 1367 Views
And a 1000 years ago... fionwe1987 - 06/02/2011 06:33:29 PM 1275 Views
The only implication I grasped is that you don't grasp math... fionwe1987 - 06/02/2011 06:21:12 PM 1494 Views
Circular reasoning... Shannow - 06/02/2011 07:03:53 PM 1454 Views
No, reasoning based on facts and what RJ said, both of which you ignore... fionwe1987 - 06/02/2011 07:34:21 PM 1613 Views
If you're going to ignore direct quotes, then we may as well stop right now... Shannow - 06/02/2011 08:42:40 PM 1401 Views
Agreed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/02/2011 04:32:05 PM 1388 Views
Agree. *NM* fionwe1987 - 04/02/2011 05:49:05 PM 758 Views
agreed *NM* darius_sedai - 04/02/2011 08:27:22 PM 813 Views
off tangent question: Has Nynaeve yet to reach full potential or did she already after being ... Bookwyrm - 04/02/2011 08:39:29 PM 1308 Views
I think the general concensus is that after the CK she was forced to her full potential darius_sedai - 05/02/2011 03:44:29 PM 1335 Views
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