I would agree with you on less structured parts of the series
darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 15/02/2012 03:38:37 PM
He keeps arguing about a point that RJ has given us a verdict on. Period. End. IT'S HIS WORLD. He is the god. No matter what argument the reader makes up, in the end, the author is right about these things.
Actually, it's not quite that simple, at least not according to a literary theory. The author is dead, and not only in the literal sense. Whatever I can read into the books and argue well for, is just as likely as what anyone else, including the author, says.
Of course the fact that this is an unfinished work, which is going to be finished by someone with notes and instructions from, and therefore authority from, the author, means that whatever I say could be disproved in the end. But after the series is finished, my opinion is just as valid as Jordan's or Sanderson's, provided I can find arguments for it in the text.
All according to literary theory. Though I guess most people don't see it this way.
But you are arguing on a topic specifically called out as fact by the author ... This particular argument RJ was very clear on. If you were debating something that RJ was more vague about I would support your supposition that your opinion (if laid out well) is as valid as anyone's. Unfortunately for your argument here, the author laid it out as part of the historical fact about the world he created.
We can discuss all day long about the reasons Traveling vanished, and there could be a dozen of them, but the fact remains that it did indeed vanish and we have been told outright that no AS from the AoL survived the Breaking. You can't simply choose to ignore what was written by the author simply because you find it implausible.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
How did Travelling become a lost Talent?
- 03/02/2012 09:09:39 AM
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It is a little odd. Maybe because channelers weren't united for a while?
- 03/02/2012 02:24:17 PM
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Re: How did Travelling become a lost Talent?
- 03/02/2012 02:49:02 PM
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Hey, why don't you reference ANY place in the series a character learns ANY weave from a book?
- 04/02/2012 07:42:43 AM
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i think it could be
- 03/02/2012 07:56:18 PM
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THANK YOU!!! Are we the only ones here who can see the obvious?!
- 04/02/2012 07:40:39 AM
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Re: THANK YOU!!! Are we the only ones here who can see the obvious?!
- 04/02/2012 09:56:48 AM
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Re: THANK YOU!!! Are we the only ones here who can see the obvious?!
- 04/02/2012 01:57:10 PM
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Have you read the Big White Book? It details some of the events that happened during The Breaking
- 08/02/2012 04:27:13 PM
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It's always struck me as a tool of the Author more than a good hard fact
- 04/02/2012 01:40:06 AM
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Your theory is based on rather severely flawed assumptions
- 04/02/2012 07:34:45 AM
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Re: Your theory is based on rather severely flawed assumptions
- 04/02/2012 09:48:52 AM
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- 04/02/2012 03:04:48 PM
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Re: Your theory is based on rather severely flawed assumptions
- 04/02/2012 06:58:41 PM
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Re: Your theory is based on rather severely flawed assumptions
- 05/02/2012 12:00:05 AM
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Re: Your theory is based on rather severely flawed assumptions
- 05/02/2012 04:05:57 AM
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I don't see why people are having trouble believing Traveling was lost in the Breaking
- 05/02/2012 05:53:32 PM
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Re: I don't see why people are having trouble believing Traveling was lost in the Breaking
- 05/02/2012 07:39:51 PM
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My point was that it's surprising only ONE Healing weave survived
- 11/02/2012 08:25:02 PM
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Re: I don't see why people are having trouble believing Traveling was lost in the Breaking
- 05/02/2012 09:11:04 PM
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I agree. I was going to respond but you covered most of the bases.
- 08/02/2012 04:13:20 PM
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Re: Your theory is based on rather severely flawed assumptions
- 05/02/2012 09:52:35 PM
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You really need to read the BWB sections regarding this
- 14/02/2012 01:20:20 AM
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he needs to read it just to see it for his own eyes
- 14/02/2012 02:46:44 AM
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- 14/02/2012 10:15:46 PM
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I would agree with you on less structured parts of the series
- 15/02/2012 03:38:37 PM
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Re: I would agree with you on less structured parts of the series
- 16/02/2012 09:41:29 PM
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That I can agree with
- 17/02/2012 05:46:49 AM
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- 17/02/2012 09:26:50 AM
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Seriously! The Yellow should be ashamed
- 17/02/2012 01:49:07 PM
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Well to be fair to the Yellow (which generally annoy me as an Ajah)...
- 17/02/2012 06:20:06 PM
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Re: Your theory is based on rather severely flawed assumptions
- 05/02/2012 09:02:28 PM
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Why would the AoL Servants of All build themselves a self-aggrandizing island-city-fort-tower?
- 08/02/2012 03:03:49 PM
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Re: Why would the AoL Servants of All build themselves a self-aggrandizing island-city-fort-tower?
- 09/02/2012 10:38:23 PM
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Re: Why would the AoL Servants of All build themselves a self-aggrandizing island-city-fort-tower?
- 11/02/2012 07:58:40 PM
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The White Tower began construction in 98 AB. Go read the section in the BWB
- 12/02/2012 01:48:58 AM
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The Wheel Weaves as the Wheel Wills. *NM*
- 06/02/2012 02:38:36 AM
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I wonder if it'd possible to open gateways based on the memories of a previous incarnation? *NM*
- 07/02/2012 09:56:25 PM
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except for Rand/LTT and Birgitte, I get the impression that people don't have memories of past lives *NM*
- 08/02/2012 02:38:00 AM
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