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She's already gone from Caemlyn at the timeof the attack, at the meeting in Merrilor Cannoli Send a noteboard - 29/02/2012 05:29:27 PM
Was reading KoD the other day, and one of the things that kept jumping out at me was Min's vision, and how Elayne keeps using it to put herself in harm's way with little caution. Indeed she keeps insisting that no harm will come to her until the babes are born. I got the suspicion that RJ was giving us a little hint, and couldn't shake it out of my head.
She could also be doing exactly what a sane person does when they receive such a guarantee, and others are using invalid & unfounded concerns for her safety to interfere with her job.

With the imminent attack of Caemlyn by Shadowspawn coming in aMoL, can it be possible that Elayne won't survive? If the Trolloc horde overrun Andor, it would give the Shadow a prime foothold in the heart of the westlands. Knowing Elayne, she would probably insist on standing her ground during the invasion rather than fleeing the city via gateway. But still she must survive to fulfill the vision of the three women on a boat (unless one of the three is not elayne). Now even if they don't manage to fend off the Shadow army from Caemlyn, that leaves Min's vision of Elayne's twins. Do we know how far along she is in her pregnancy? I kept getting the feeling that RJ was alluding to her dying in childbirth, but it might also just mean nothing. What do you guys think?


It's possible she could die in childbirth, but that does not invalidate the viewing. I don't think there's any foreshadowing one way or another. I think all that RJ is trying to do is pile difficulties on her to make the struggle for the throne all the more frustrating for her, and demonstrating how she plays by rules, even when she does not have to. Just as she could use her One Power advantages to win the war without violating the letter of the Three Oaths, she also could blow everyone off, but tolerates an unprecedented level of security despite a having a certain assurance of survival for nine more months. I think that's all that was going on. There are too many other things suggesting her survival to assume some perverse surprise twist on the viewing.
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So who thinks Elayne will die in aMoL? mogi67 - 29/02/2012 04:02:07 AM 1986 Views
Given the various Foretellings and Min Viewings the only way Elayne can die darius_sedai - 29/02/2012 05:48:50 AM 1081 Views
Dying in childbirth would be totally lame Zeratul - 29/02/2012 09:34:47 AM 1075 Views
There is the one vision Min had of Aveinda where she was going to have 4? babies but it was odd *NM* Nolan - 29/02/2012 04:53:46 PM 510 Views
That's nothing to do with Elayne Cannoli - 29/02/2012 05:19:39 PM 1063 Views
Or does it? JasonD - 10/03/2012 06:21:53 PM 883 Views
She's already gone from Caemlyn at the timeof the attack, at the meeting in Merrilor Cannoli - 29/02/2012 05:29:27 PM 1252 Views
Going to have to agree 100% *NM* Myrdhyn - 29/02/2012 06:42:15 PM 569 Views
I also get the feeling that RJ isn't going to kill off any main characters LadyLorraine - 29/02/2012 10:44:29 PM 904 Views
Ok... fionwe1987 - 01/03/2012 03:23:11 AM 949 Views
practically speaking you're correct. But this is a fantasy novel with a pro-protagonist tone LadyLorraine - 01/03/2012 04:24:38 PM 908 Views
I disagree... fionwe1987 - 01/03/2012 06:29:32 PM 1091 Views
not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives Jim - 02/03/2012 05:51:03 AM 1048 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives fionwe1987 - 04/03/2012 06:46:12 PM 889 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives DomA - 04/03/2012 07:32:31 PM 960 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives Jim - 05/03/2012 01:54:49 AM 1028 Views
is there any chance that the broken crown could refer to Manethrean? (sp?) LadyLorraine - 05/03/2012 02:10:17 AM 1007 Views
Perrin bringing Manthrean back seems unlikely Jim - 05/03/2012 04:28:57 PM 1002 Views
No, I realize that LadyLorraine - 05/03/2012 09:12:56 PM 893 Views
Re: No, I realize that DomA - 06/03/2012 02:14:14 AM 1052 Views
Ahhh. I had forgotten that particular detail LadyLorraine - 06/03/2012 02:45:28 PM 875 Views
Re: Ahhh. I had forgotten that particular detail DomA - 07/03/2012 03:43:59 AM 898 Views
oh pllp. clearly I haven't read much lately LadyLorraine - 07/03/2012 02:02:20 PM 1030 Views
DomA - 09/03/2012 12:43:57 PM 903 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives DomA - 06/03/2012 01:47:08 AM 1081 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives Jim - 05/03/2012 01:51:46 AM 1154 Views
I think Lan will live just to spite the character *NM* LadyLorraine - 05/03/2012 02:11:59 AM 558 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives DomA - 06/03/2012 02:35:23 AM 989 Views
RJ says otherwise darius_sedai - 07/03/2012 02:08:23 PM 1005 Views
Re: RJ says otherwise DomA - 08/03/2012 04:53:42 AM 1100 Views
I kind of disagree Jim - 08/03/2012 05:21:33 AM 1051 Views
Re: I kind of disagree DomA - 08/03/2012 01:39:40 PM 1003 Views
You misunderstand my point darius_sedai - 09/03/2012 05:31:09 AM 947 Views
Re: You misunderstand my point DomA - 09/03/2012 12:40:29 PM 1303 Views
Agreed. For all we know the baby image could be Lan meeting the oath taken for him by raising darius_sedai - 09/03/2012 01:23:06 PM 890 Views
No one mourned or cheered when Dobraine was dying. *NM* fionwe1987 - 09/03/2012 04:12:39 PM 732 Views
Re: Agreed. For all we know the baby image could be Lan meeting the oath taken for him by raising DomA - 09/03/2012 07:18:41 PM 1222 Views
Re: I also get the feeling that RJ isn't going to kill off any main characters RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/03/2012 03:10:35 PM 1087 Views
I didn't know Naelson was a Darkfriend, or Tylin either. What about Jaim? Hieshyn - 02/03/2012 01:45:57 AM 1078 Views
they're not main characters either Jim - 02/03/2012 05:58:13 AM 1010 Views
I wouldn't even consider Morgase to be a MAIN character. Evil_Monkey - 02/03/2012 12:28:41 PM 1010 Views
Yes. I am classifying Main Characters as Rand, Egwene, Elayne, Perrin, Mat, Avi, Min and Nynaeve. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/03/2012 05:42:58 PM 781 Views
Verin is the most significant character to die that I recall darius_sedai - 01/03/2012 04:50:51 PM 1004 Views
Re: I also get the feeling that RJ isn't going to kill off any main characters Praziquantel - 02/03/2012 12:53:41 AM 930 Views
And you think she won't hop back to Caemlyn the moment word comes of the attack? *NM* fionwe1987 - 01/03/2012 03:22:11 AM 509 Views
No, she won't be able to weave the gateway and Rand won't let anyone make her one. *NM* Hieshyn - 02/03/2012 01:48:06 AM 644 Views
The smartass answer: Birgitte. But, despite all seeming evidence, I don't know why anyone would. *NM* Palatine - 01/03/2012 04:36:22 PM 615 Views
Hope or think? *NM* Anonymous2000 - 01/03/2012 06:30:58 PM 514 Views
Oh God I hope she does *NM* Hieshyn - 02/03/2012 01:48:46 AM 722 Views
i don't think she will....just hoping. *NM* moridin15 - 04/03/2012 09:55:06 AM 636 Views
It's fairly doubtful DomA - 04/03/2012 04:34:01 PM 1100 Views
Agreed. fionwe1987 - 04/03/2012 06:37:25 PM 838 Views
Re: Agreed. DomA - 04/03/2012 08:38:45 PM 994 Views
I expect Moiraine to be the second woman to link with Rand Jim - 05/03/2012 02:08:44 AM 965 Views
I'm very suspicious of the whole "Callandor" theory.... DomA - 06/03/2012 03:27:05 AM 1222 Views
I have wondered for a long time if the Ogier, Rand, Aiel and the Tinkers won't end up darius_sedai - 06/03/2012 04:04:13 AM 795 Views
Re: I have wondered for a long time if the Ogier, Rand, Aiel and the Tinkers won't end up DomA - 06/03/2012 03:10:45 PM 1105 Views
We have similar thought processes on this *NM* darius_sedai - 07/03/2012 01:47:39 PM 470 Views
I don't see Singing playing any role in TG Jim - 08/03/2012 05:08:24 AM 842 Views
Have you read ToM? fionwe1987 - 08/03/2012 07:52:46 AM 944 Views
Re: I don't see Singing playing any role in TG DomA - 08/03/2012 02:07:31 PM 942 Views
I expect Rand to "die" Jim - 05/03/2012 02:07:55 AM 886 Views
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