Remember what they did on Deep Space Nine when Nana Visitor got pregnant, but it didn't fit her character? They contrived a situation where she had to surrogate-carry a baby for Keiko O'Brien.
So:
#1 Rand knocks up Aviendha early in AMOL. This is already probable, because readers will need to have doubts about Rand's survival.
- #1a Also, there's the problem of Lanfear's superpowered lust inducement that has the potential to bring Rand down. No doubt there will be situations where Rand's proper ladies will have to be on hand to *cough* quench his fires.
#2 Elayne is mortally wounded. The babies! The babies!
#3 Nynaeve arrives on the scene and asks, quite casually, if anyone happens to have a functioning womb that's already delivering nutrients?
- #3a Reread the prologue of Winter's Heart, where Aviendha and Elayne become first-sisters. It goes beyond simple ceremony; it requires channeling, includes a weird sort of rebirth, weaves related to the Warder bond, and the conspicuous absence of Melaine owing to concern that her unborn babies might be touched by the weave. There's just tons of foreshadowing there.
#4 Viola! The babies are transplanted. Elayne dies. Aviendha carries and gives birth to four babies, and the "something odd" is the obvious fact that two of them are Elayne's.
So:
#1 Rand knocks up Aviendha early in AMOL. This is already probable, because readers will need to have doubts about Rand's survival.
- #1a Also, there's the problem of Lanfear's superpowered lust inducement that has the potential to bring Rand down. No doubt there will be situations where Rand's proper ladies will have to be on hand to *cough* quench his fires.
#2 Elayne is mortally wounded. The babies! The babies!
#3 Nynaeve arrives on the scene and asks, quite casually, if anyone happens to have a functioning womb that's already delivering nutrients?
- #3a Reread the prologue of Winter's Heart, where Aviendha and Elayne become first-sisters. It goes beyond simple ceremony; it requires channeling, includes a weird sort of rebirth, weaves related to the Warder bond, and the conspicuous absence of Melaine owing to concern that her unborn babies might be touched by the weave. There's just tons of foreshadowing there.
#4 Viola! The babies are transplanted. Elayne dies. Aviendha carries and gives birth to four babies, and the "something odd" is the obvious fact that two of them are Elayne's.
So who thinks Elayne will die in aMoL?
- 29/02/2012 04:02:07 AM
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Given the various Foretellings and Min Viewings the only way Elayne can die
- 29/02/2012 05:48:50 AM
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There is the one vision Min had of Aveinda where she was going to have 4? babies but it was odd *NM*
- 29/02/2012 04:53:46 PM
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That's nothing to do with Elayne
- 29/02/2012 05:19:39 PM
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Or does it?
- 10/03/2012 06:21:53 PM
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She's already gone from Caemlyn at the timeof the attack, at the meeting in Merrilor
- 29/02/2012 05:29:27 PM
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I also get the feeling that RJ isn't going to kill off any main characters
- 29/02/2012 10:44:29 PM
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Ok...
- 01/03/2012 03:23:11 AM
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practically speaking you're correct. But this is a fantasy novel with a pro-protagonist tone
- 01/03/2012 04:24:38 PM
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I disagree...
- 01/03/2012 06:29:32 PM
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not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives
- 02/03/2012 05:51:03 AM
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Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives
- 04/03/2012 06:46:12 PM
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Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives
- 04/03/2012 07:32:31 PM
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Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives
- 05/03/2012 01:54:49 AM
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is there any chance that the broken crown could refer to Manethrean? (sp?)
- 05/03/2012 02:10:17 AM
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Perrin bringing Manthrean back seems unlikely
- 05/03/2012 04:28:57 PM
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No, I realize that
- 05/03/2012 09:12:56 PM
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Re: No, I realize that
- 06/03/2012 02:14:14 AM
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Ahhh. I had forgotten that particular detail
- 06/03/2012 02:45:28 PM
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Re: Ahhh. I had forgotten that particular detail
- 07/03/2012 03:43:59 AM
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Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives
- 05/03/2012 01:51:46 AM
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Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives
- 06/03/2012 02:35:23 AM
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RJ says otherwise
- 07/03/2012 02:08:23 PM
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Re: RJ says otherwise
- 08/03/2012 04:53:42 AM
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You misunderstand my point
- 09/03/2012 05:31:09 AM
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Re: You misunderstand my point
- 09/03/2012 12:40:29 PM
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Agreed. For all we know the baby image could be Lan meeting the oath taken for him by raising
- 09/03/2012 01:23:06 PM
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Re: Agreed. For all we know the baby image could be Lan meeting the oath taken for him by raising
- 09/03/2012 07:18:41 PM
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Re: I also get the feeling that RJ isn't going to kill off any main characters
- 01/03/2012 03:10:35 PM
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I didn't know Naelson was a Darkfriend, or Tylin either. What about Jaim?
- 02/03/2012 01:45:57 AM
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they're not main characters either
- 02/03/2012 05:58:13 AM
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Yes. I am classifying Main Characters as Rand, Egwene, Elayne, Perrin, Mat, Avi, Min and Nynaeve.
- 02/03/2012 05:42:58 PM
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Re: I also get the feeling that RJ isn't going to kill off any main characters
- 02/03/2012 12:53:41 AM
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And you think she won't hop back to Caemlyn the moment word comes of the attack? *NM*
- 01/03/2012 03:22:11 AM
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No, she won't be able to weave the gateway and Rand won't let anyone make her one. *NM*
- 02/03/2012 01:48:06 AM
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The smartass answer: Birgitte. But, despite all seeming evidence, I don't know why anyone would. *NM*
- 01/03/2012 04:36:22 PM
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It's fairly doubtful
- 04/03/2012 04:34:01 PM
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Agreed.
- 04/03/2012 06:37:25 PM
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Re: Agreed.
- 04/03/2012 08:38:45 PM
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I expect Moiraine to be the second woman to link with Rand
- 05/03/2012 02:08:44 AM
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I'm very suspicious of the whole "Callandor" theory....
- 06/03/2012 03:27:05 AM
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I have wondered for a long time if the Ogier, Rand, Aiel and the Tinkers won't end up
- 06/03/2012 04:04:13 AM
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Re: I have wondered for a long time if the Ogier, Rand, Aiel and the Tinkers won't end up
- 06/03/2012 03:10:45 PM
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