Bryne was Captain General not First Prince and Taringail was Prince Consort not FP
darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 30/05/2012 06:07:48 AM
And since Morgase had no brother it's possible there is a contingency for FP.
Also, Elayne tells Gawyn his duty as FP includes being Captain General, but it's clear that there are other duties since she published that he was free of them at her will.
The point I am making is that Taringail should have succeeded Laman and Galad after him once Tigraine vanished. Since these things did not happen is seems like they had to renounce Damodred inheritance. What follows is that when Taringail married Morgase Galad may have been reverted to Damodred so that a Trakand Queen didn't control a Mantear High Seat. And since Laman wasn't even in consideration for the Sun Throne after Laman's death it sounds like there must have been some provision in place to exclude him.
Do the math. Galad is born of the Royal Houses of Andor and Cairhein, yet inherits from neither side upon the death of either parent and doesn't even have the name of his matrilineal House which in Andor would carry more weight for him since he did not inherit anything from Damodred. That would make some sense if he had inherited the Sun Throne or at the very least High Seat of Damodred, the mystery is why Galad is marginalized in both Andor and Cairhien. He has birth right to both a Throne and a powerful High Seat, yet got neither and is essentially left to the mercy of his adoptive mother. To your earlier pnt Elayne may be able to hand him the Sun Throne, but his legal right seems limited for an unknown reason.
Also, Elayne tells Gawyn his duty as FP includes being Captain General, but it's clear that there are other duties since she published that he was free of them at her will.
The point I am making is that Taringail should have succeeded Laman and Galad after him once Tigraine vanished. Since these things did not happen is seems like they had to renounce Damodred inheritance. What follows is that when Taringail married Morgase Galad may have been reverted to Damodred so that a Trakand Queen didn't control a Mantear High Seat. And since Laman wasn't even in consideration for the Sun Throne after Laman's death it sounds like there must have been some provision in place to exclude him.
Do the math. Galad is born of the Royal Houses of Andor and Cairhein, yet inherits from neither side upon the death of either parent and doesn't even have the name of his matrilineal House which in Andor would carry more weight for him since he did not inherit anything from Damodred. That would make some sense if he had inherited the Sun Throne or at the very least High Seat of Damodred, the mystery is why Galad is marginalized in both Andor and Cairhien. He has birth right to both a Throne and a powerful High Seat, yet got neither and is essentially left to the mercy of his adoptive mother. To your earlier pnt Elayne may be able to hand him the Sun Throne, but his legal right seems limited for an unknown reason.
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This message last edited by darius_sedai on 30/05/2012 at 06:10:03 AM
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Thoughts...
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Mat and the madness...
- 21/05/2012 10:30:09 PM
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Nynaeve's revelation may make the AS even more worried of Rand being mad
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Not Egwene though...
- 21/05/2012 11:02:41 PM
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Maybe, maybe not ... Nynaeve just gave everyone proof of the extent of his possible madness
- 21/05/2012 11:26:41 PM
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Re: Maybe, maybe not ... Nynaeve just gave everyone proof of the extent of his possible madness
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Re: Mat and the madness...
- 22/05/2012 02:29:31 AM
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Rand's dreams...
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She assumes he's mad just like most people assume a 19 year old boy is horney
- 22/05/2012 03:47:49 AM
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Everything Egwene's little pea-brain does not grasp has always been a sign of madness to her.
- 21/05/2012 11:05:44 PM
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Oh read the books will you?
- 21/05/2012 11:12:06 PM
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I'd rather not. For different reasons, it's kind of painful to read those by either author.
- 22/05/2012 04:46:20 AM
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What caught my eye there was "Trollocs seize Caemlyn."
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As much as I would love Moiraine to go with him to Ebou Dar
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At this stage, all roads lead to Rand.
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Re: At this stage, all roads lead to Rand.
- 23/05/2012 08:07:56 PM
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Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
- 23/05/2012 08:53:53 PM
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Re: Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
- 23/05/2012 09:01:10 PM
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It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal.
- 23/05/2012 09:22:47 PM
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Re: It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal.
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Re: It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal.
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Re: Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
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Aviendha's visions from Rhuidean indicate he will kneel...
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Re: Aviendha's visions from Rhuidean indicate he will kneel...
- 26/05/2012 09:42:20 PM
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Agreed...
- 26/05/2012 09:57:06 PM
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I think you are extrapolating some of his actions into more than he intends
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Re: Agreed...
- 27/05/2012 04:26:15 AM
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I think you're both wrong...
- 27/05/2012 08:41:50 AM
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I'm sure that is part of it, but I very much doubt he is thinking in terms of succession
- 27/05/2012 01:41:37 PM
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I can't believe Galad will be accepted as a ruler since he is the Lord Captain Commander
- 28/05/2012 02:48:26 AM
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Re: I can't believe Galad will be accepted as a ruler since he is the Lord Captain Commander
- 28/05/2012 04:54:46 PM
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That makes no sense
- 28/05/2012 05:50:16 PM
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Taringail was Laman's heir...
- 28/05/2012 07:20:07 PM
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You are answering the wrong question
- 29/05/2012 02:19:48 PM
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No. I've answered the exact question. You seem to have missed it.
- 29/05/2012 04:40:17 PM
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Yet not one of these things actually happened
- 29/05/2012 10:13:35 PM
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You're being absurd...
- 30/05/2012 01:04:36 AM
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Explain why Taringail didn't become King after Laman's death then
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- 30/05/2012 06:11:02 AM
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Why then would Taringail, an ambitious man, renounce a Throne?
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We don't fully know...
- 30/05/2012 06:43:30 AM
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You just flipped your last statement
- 30/05/2012 06:55:36 AM
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You seem extremely confused...
- 30/05/2012 09:56:30 AM
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Not confused, simply not satisfied with the information we have
- 30/05/2012 12:15:59 PM
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Re: Not confused, simply not satisfied with the information we have
- 30/05/2012 03:34:06 PM
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I am not contesting the information we have
- 30/05/2012 04:48:08 PM
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You're impossible...
- 30/05/2012 10:02:59 PM
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Re: Explain why Taringail didn't become King after Laman's death then
- 30/05/2012 02:22:21 PM
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See this maps back to my original stance ... Thanks for pointing out that Fionwe invented that
- 30/05/2012 05:09:14 PM
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Good, now you have one last thing (a few inches long) to remember so everything becomes clear....
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Re: That makes no sense
- 29/05/2012 04:39:45 PM
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Only one other thing...
- 29/05/2012 04:53:29 PM
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No. If that was the case Taringail would have been King of Cairhien and not have married Morgase *NM*
- 30/05/2012 05:52:18 AM
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Bryne was Captain General not First Prince and Taringail was Prince Consort not FP
- 30/05/2012 06:07:48 AM
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Bryne was First Prince Regent.
- 30/05/2012 06:19:33 AM
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No Forsaken will go near that Ter'angreal
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Re: No Forsaken will go near that Ter'angreal
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Aviendha reprogrammed the ter'angreal
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Re: Aviendha reprogrammed the ter'angreal
- 27/05/2012 06:44:41 PM
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I'd have to re-read to be 100% certain, but the way I read the passage
- 28/05/2012 02:10:14 AM
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Re: I'd have to re-read to be 100% certain, but the way I read the passage
- 28/05/2012 03:33:18 PM
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I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one *NM*
- 28/05/2012 05:18:40 PM
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He might not literally kneel before the ter'angreal, but almost certainly must meet with Tuon soon.
- 25/05/2012 03:40:54 AM
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*NM*