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The traps were defeated by Elza before freed Semirhage darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 18/10/2012 02:53:17 PM
it bears noting that Bair, not being able to channel, wouldn't have been able to see how Cadsuane disarmed her traps, so, IMO, this clue points towards Sorilea.


I don't think I agree. Even if Cadsuane inverted the traps, I'd bet on Semirhage knowing a way to get past them. And it's not necessary that the betrayer actually be a darkfriend - they could be under compulsion.


Remember she and SH brought the a'dam to Semirhage when they busted her loose.

I'm torn between the two as there are strong arguments for both. I lean a touch on the Sorilea side only because of a comment Verin made about her to Cadsuane. Very thin, but feels foreshadowy now that we know what Verin was up to. I'll have to go dig up the quote for you.
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Misc observations from my latest re-read darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 08:26:37 PM 3222 Views
How does LTT know about Far Madding's history? darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 08:29:13 PM 1762 Views
Re: How does LTT know about Far Madding's history? DomA - 14/10/2012 09:23:24 PM 1798 Views
Knowing the post Breaking history of the Guardians and speaking of the city as though he had persona darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 09:56:55 PM 1486 Views
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How Stong was Gitara? darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 08:34:43 PM 1700 Views
So so stong. She had incredible stength. Cannoli - 14/10/2012 09:04:15 PM 1717 Views
Degree of slowing is the same as how long they will live darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 09:22:23 PM 1545 Views
Re: Degree of slowing is the same as how long they will live Cannoli - 14/10/2012 09:36:19 PM 1336 Views
Not in the mood to deal with you ... Go read the Ages section of 13th Depository darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 09:53:14 PM 1353 Views
Not interested in Linda's private theories. Cannoli - 15/10/2012 02:29:41 AM 1527 Views
Not my problem if you are that lazy. All the quotes you want are nicely organized darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 02:50:45 AM 1355 Views
And there's Sorilea... DomA - 15/10/2012 02:53:15 AM 1555 Views
Perhaps, but Bair is in her 80s and can't channel at all darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 03:09:35 AM 1336 Views
Problem is... DomA - 14/10/2012 11:52:00 PM 1451 Views
Again, my point isn't about motivations for Elaida or Gitara ... that is clear darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 12:07:49 AM 1351 Views
Show me where in the books an adviser is selected by Tower authorities! Cannoli - 15/10/2012 02:58:19 AM 1351 Views
Yet look what happens the minute a Stronger woman showed up darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 03:19:18 AM 1288 Views
Re: Yet look what happens the minute a Stronger woman showed up Cannoli - 15/10/2012 03:35:10 AM 1413 Views
Yet Morgase herself states she didn't consider Elaida a friend darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 03:45:45 AM 1245 Views
How did Gareth Bryne get to stay Captain General, given his lack of respect to Aes Sedai? Cannoli - 15/10/2012 04:07:07 AM 1393 Views
He was banging the queen darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 04:19:24 AM 1299 Views
And what Aes Sedai gave him permission to bang the queen? Cannoli - 15/10/2012 04:30:42 AM 1551 Views
here ya go darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 04:39:29 AM 1405 Views
There's an awful lot for "not many" Cannoli - 15/10/2012 05:07:30 AM 1341 Views
When did I say I bought into Linda's theories? darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 05:29:27 AM 1265 Views
Re: Show me where in the books an adviser is selected by Tower authorities! Sidious - 15/10/2012 10:38:16 AM 1209 Views
Re: Again, my point isn't about motivations for Elaida or Gitara ... that is clear DomA - 15/10/2012 03:15:18 AM 1425 Views
The thing is Elaida had no experience in the arena at all darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 03:25:10 AM 1315 Views
IT IS NOT THE TOWER'S DAMNED JOB! She had more than enough credentials for ANDOR Cannoli - 15/10/2012 03:45:15 AM 1397 Views
Nope. Every other advisor we've seen has been sent from TV darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 03:50:07 AM 1348 Views
Those are not official advisers, those are ambassadors! Cannoli - 15/10/2012 04:17:51 AM 1406 Views
So now you are saying that Elaida was a personal advisor not an envoy of the Tower? darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 04:22:31 AM 1331 Views
Finally! I was beginning to despair of your literacy! Cannoli - 15/10/2012 04:34:18 AM 1390 Views
now I am questioning your literacy *NM* darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 04:40:45 AM 879 Views
She didn't "land it". She took the job for herself... DomA - 15/10/2012 04:00:35 AM 1312 Views
Actually every advisor we've seen except Elaida has been appointed darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 04:11:39 AM 1339 Views
You can bully someone into an act, not a twenty year relationship Cannoli - 15/10/2012 04:22:16 AM 1453 Views
Not arguing that Morgase had a problem with her darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 04:33:10 AM 1286 Views
We know nothing of the sort. Cannoli - 15/10/2012 05:14:54 AM 1283 Views
Prove that Elaida's post was not Tower sanctioned darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 05:39:23 AM 1397 Views
Re: Prove that Elaida's post was not Tower sanctioned DomA - 17/10/2012 04:15:37 AM 1412 Views
Egwene said otherwise DomA,... fionwe1987 - 17/10/2012 05:33:01 AM 1351 Views
Re: Egwene said otherwise DomA,... DomA - 17/10/2012 01:01:47 PM 1447 Views
Just to be clear darius_sedai - 17/10/2012 03:58:58 PM 1292 Views
Re: Egwene said otherwise DomA,... fionwe1987 - 18/10/2012 01:23:48 AM 1366 Views
Elayne's thoughts about this Zeratul - 17/10/2012 04:16:38 PM 1322 Views
And an answer to the rest of your "points" Cannoli - 15/10/2012 02:48:07 AM 1549 Views
Again. I refer you to Linda's blog. The relevant quotes are there ... Enjoy darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 02:52:03 AM 1351 Views
The burden of proof is on you to make your points. There is nothing in the books. Cannoli - 15/10/2012 03:01:46 AM 1369 Views
You mean the only way she could avoid become Queen was to flee? darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 03:30:26 AM 1401 Views
And never ever face discipline or punishment for fleeing? Outside the Tower, she was on her own. Cannoli - 15/10/2012 03:40:23 AM 1305 Views
I'm not using her theory, I'm saying she posted all the damn quotes in one place darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 03:57:00 AM 1349 Views
You don't see how evading the Tower's authority for 10 years undermines YOUR position? Cannoli - 15/10/2012 05:21:29 AM 1235 Views
Nope. It substantiates that the Tower will exert itself to ensure its Political standing darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 05:41:33 AM 1277 Views
Oh for the love of...! Here's the relevant quote: fionwe1987 - 15/10/2012 04:04:48 AM 1447 Views
Okay, but that's still irrelevant to the Oath Rod & its cutoff period or method, as well as lifespan Cannoli - 15/10/2012 04:54:26 AM 1291 Views
To quote you RTDB darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 05:16:56 AM 1284 Views
Re: To quote you RTDB Cannoli - 15/10/2012 05:27:47 AM 1338 Views
Some people look young. darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 05:51:25 AM 1240 Views
I never mentioned the OR... fionwe1987 - 16/10/2012 01:38:48 AM 1346 Views
RJ said Sharina would go back to about middle aged darius_sedai - 16/10/2012 02:23:21 AM 1171 Views
And that is probably the ONLY quote that wasn't on Linda's page *NM* darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 04:55:33 AM 782 Views
Told you so. *NM* Cannoli - 15/10/2012 05:21:58 AM 893 Views
I think so. linda_sedai - 16/11/2012 11:40:17 AM 1495 Views
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How old was Lanfear? darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 08:41:35 PM 1384 Views
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I couldn't find it darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 12:22:43 AM 1318 Views
It's in the Fires of Heaven, when Lanfear visits Rand and he remembers her as Mierin. *NM* ImmanuelXavier - 20/10/2012 04:19:09 AM 837 Views
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Not the same thing darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 09:44:43 PM 1312 Views
Show me some damn PROOF already!! Cannoli - 15/10/2012 03:19:18 AM 1488 Views
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Illogic, arguments from (false) authority and now ad hominem attacks. Cannoli - 15/10/2012 03:46:49 AM 1290 Views
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The frequently-confessing-ignorance, can't-keep-track-of-what-he-wrote ghostwriter, you mean. Cannoli - 15/10/2012 05:28:50 AM 1416 Views
Touché ... But to DomA's point we'll likely get some resolution in AMoL *NM* darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 05:53:14 AM 780 Views
Re: I've only been saying no for years. DomA - 14/10/2012 10:15:29 PM 1609 Views
Your argument is based on a faulty premise. Fanatic-Templar - 15/10/2012 08:11:19 PM 1194 Views
That could also mean the same KC prophesies were is Seanchan before Luthair came along darius_sedai - 16/10/2012 12:54:07 AM 1271 Views
Of course there is truth... DomA - 14/10/2012 09:42:24 PM 1418 Views
Didn't know Bsand had confirmed the corruption. Thanks for sharing darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 10:02:40 PM 1362 Views
Re: Didn't know Bsand had confirmed the corruption. Thanks for sharing DomA - 14/10/2012 10:23:17 PM 1419 Views
Hmmm ...I like it! It is actually very similar to what Nynaeve does darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 10:31:48 PM 1462 Views
How do the Black Ajah not figure out who the others are? darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 08:48:14 PM 1396 Views
Who says they can't? Cannoli - 14/10/2012 09:23:11 PM 1392 Views
True to a point darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 10:00:01 PM 1322 Views
Was Sheriam ranking? Would many of them have met her? Not everyone even gets to meet the SC. Cannoli - 15/10/2012 03:23:16 AM 1348 Views
Perhaps not. But a woman like Sheriam would stick out darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 03:37:12 AM 1257 Views
Re: Was Sheriam ranking? Would many of them have met her? Not everyone even gets to meet the SC. DomA - 15/10/2012 03:52:39 AM 1384 Views
But isn't it interesting that Sheriam and Galina, both young and strong are on the SC? darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 04:06:38 AM 1238 Views
Galina isn't young. *NM* DomA - 17/10/2012 03:24:30 AM 852 Views
Yes she is darius_sedai - 17/10/2012 03:46:39 PM 1386 Views
85 years being BA, 90 years as a sister does not qualify her as a "young AS" DomA - 18/10/2012 05:35:33 PM 1357 Views
She is not dissimilar to Sheriam when she made her rise IMO darius_sedai - 18/10/2012 06:53:54 PM 1303 Views
Re: She is not dissimilar to Sheriam when she made her rise IMO DomA - 18/10/2012 08:10:58 PM 1334 Views
I think Linda is correct in this particular instance darius_sedai - 19/10/2012 02:14:23 AM 1460 Views
You mean the SC? DomA - 14/10/2012 10:47:31 PM 1388 Views
No others meet as well darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 11:01:21 PM 1373 Views
Re: No others meet as well DomA - 14/10/2012 11:36:50 PM 1347 Views
Yet rank and file BA have methods of communicating darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 12:14:36 AM 1230 Views
Re: Yet rank and file BA have methods of communicating DomA - 15/10/2012 03:26:59 AM 1351 Views
I concede that the rank and file likely don't meet in large groups darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 04:54:04 AM 1297 Views
Re: I concede that the rank and file likely don't meet in large groups DomA - 15/10/2012 02:28:45 PM 1419 Views
I agree that RJ probably had some thing up his sleeve darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 03:01:20 PM 1212 Views
Re: I agree that RJ probably had some thing up his sleeve DomA - 15/10/2012 05:57:04 PM 1514 Views
I have a different opinion of Delana darius_sedai - 16/10/2012 01:20:32 AM 1650 Views
Re: I have a different opinion of Delana DomA - 16/10/2012 11:51:34 PM 1288 Views
Egwene only notes Alviarin as the Head. Verin may not have even mentioned or know who was SC darius_sedai - 18/10/2012 02:55:19 AM 1344 Views
Re: Egwene only notes Alviarin as the Head. Verin may not have even mentioned or know who was SC kHz1000 - 18/10/2012 03:40:54 PM 1246 Views
Give the sign to a woman and see how she reacts darius_sedai - 18/10/2012 06:57:38 PM 1357 Views
Re: Give the sign to a woman and see how she reacts DomA - 18/10/2012 07:26:56 PM 1286 Views
Not a good plan, I'll give you that darius_sedai - 18/10/2012 07:37:45 PM 1421 Views
*sigh* DomA - 18/10/2012 08:25:23 PM 1359 Views
*double sigh* darius_sedai - 19/10/2012 04:03:00 AM 1305 Views
Re: *double sigh* DomA - 19/10/2012 05:48:25 PM 1311 Views
Agreed *NM* darius_sedai - 20/10/2012 04:57:18 PM 765 Views
Re: Egwene only notes Alviarin as the Head. Verin may not have even mentioned or know who was SC DomA - 18/10/2012 04:59:25 PM 1393 Views
Not conclusive ... in fact the whole bit is vague ... I wonder if RJ would have given us more detail darius_sedai - 18/10/2012 07:23:30 PM 1400 Views
Not conclusive? DomA - 18/10/2012 08:49:49 PM 1239 Views
Don't put words in my mouth that I never said darius_sedai - 19/10/2012 04:08:22 AM 1227 Views
double post *NM* darius_sedai - 19/10/2012 04:08:22 AM 770 Views
Surely, in part, this is how Verin figured out who the Black Ajah was dadof5 - 15/10/2012 05:10:25 PM 4002 Views
Is there a Dark Friend WO? darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 08:51:16 PM 1452 Views
Re: Is there a Dark Friend WO? VTHokie - 17/10/2012 08:33:27 PM 1498 Views
I'd like to see more discussion on this; I'm curious as well TyrReborn - 18/10/2012 12:44:35 AM 1262 Views
Just a note about Bair redqueen - 18/10/2012 07:53:45 AM 1373 Views
The traps were defeated by Elza before freed Semirhage darius_sedai - 18/10/2012 02:53:17 PM 1356 Views
Re: The traps were defeated by Elza before freed Semirhage DomA - 18/10/2012 07:06:13 PM 1539 Views
Sorilea would have not been able to disarm Cadsuane's wards. Both inverted and likely too strong darius_sedai - 18/10/2012 07:35:22 PM 1290 Views
No, she would not have been able to (nor even see them to report about them) DomA - 18/10/2012 09:32:38 PM 1377 Views
Verin's goal was to dig out the BA. A WO would have been nothing more than a momentary darius_sedai - 19/10/2012 04:11:51 AM 1246 Views
I don't see how it could be possible Onarishma - 23/10/2012 09:31:51 PM 1259 Views
It's certainly possible, though it might contribute to making it rather rare DomA - 23/10/2012 10:55:07 PM 1322 Views
good point especially when you consider the Aiel view on pain and death Onarishma - 25/10/2012 06:14:40 PM 1188 Views
Galad and Gaywn ... Channlers? darius_sedai - 14/10/2012 10:47:55 PM 1539 Views
Re: Galad and Gaywn ... Channlers? redqueen - 14/10/2012 11:36:25 PM 1493 Views
Totally pointless, just looking to spark some conversation on the board! darius_sedai - 15/10/2012 12:23:34 AM 1486 Views
But how often in real life does that happen? Alanis Morissette taught us about death row pardons *NM* Evil_Monkey - 17/10/2012 12:27:45 AM 855 Views
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