I absolutely agree. The lower side of the curve MUST be intersected by zero after 1 SD...
Shannow Send a noteboard - 02/11/2012 03:03:52 PM
Which throws this entire model out the window. Ad by your reckoning Egwene is nearly as rare as Nynaeve. You are ignoring that there are 2 sides to a Bell Curve and your placements only address 1 half of it that suits your notions. I validate nothing by pointing out that you are just flat out wrong.
The fact is, this Bell Curve cannot have the Mean at half the maximum strength. Daigian's placement makes that impossible.
E.G.
If Moiraine is the Mean at 50 strength, then Daigian is one third of the Mean.
Daigian is 0.32SD from the Mean.
Meaning 0.32SD = 2/3 of the Mean.
Meaning that 1 SD = 2 times Moiraine strength.
Meaning that there are no channelers more than 0.5SD stronger or weaker than Moiraine.
This contradicts a Bell Curve, which has at least 32% of channelers beyond 1 SD.
The traditional Bell Curve is therefore refuted by the maths.
So the options are simple:
Either accept that the Bell Curve cannot apply to the channeling distribution, or else accept that the bottom half of the curve is intersected by zero just below 1 SD below the Mean.
This message last edited by Shannow on 02/11/2012 at 03:27:53 PM
Addressing problems with the Bell Curve
- 31/10/2012 11:30:42 AM
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Who said RJ created a 100 point scale? I always assumed we did to make this easier to follow
- 31/10/2012 02:22:51 PM
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One more point here
- 31/10/2012 03:02:34 PM
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I've think I've finally done it. I've solved the entire Curve. Daigian is the key...
- 01/11/2012 09:20:57 AM
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Did some playing with your numbers to make this work better
- 01/11/2012 02:13:00 PM
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The Mean and SD are set by Daigian's position. Your options are therefore not possible...
- 02/11/2012 07:49:24 AM
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Yet you have many more SD between the Mean and Lanfear than you do Morgase and the Mean
- 02/11/2012 02:39:51 PM
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I absolutely agree. The lower side of the curve MUST be intersected by zero after 1 SD...
- 02/11/2012 03:03:52 PM
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I am not convinced Moiraine is the Mean. Merely 50% of Lanfear
- 02/11/2012 04:23:57 PM
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But on a Bell Curve the Mean IS 50% of Lanfear. You've just disproven your own contention.
- 02/11/2012 04:40:31 PM
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OMG no it is NOT!
- 02/11/2012 05:16:36 PM
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I agree with that. But please honestly look at the math I presented. It disproves the Bell Curve.
- 02/11/2012 05:24:41 PM
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It doesn't matter that you think the BC is disproved.
- 02/11/2012 06:07:19 PM
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Confusing post...
- 02/11/2012 06:30:40 PM
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If you choose to ignore the author go right ahead. I just think you are wrong
- 02/11/2012 09:05:14 PM
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Re: It doesn't matter that you think the BC is disproved.
- 02/11/2012 07:11:57 PM
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I think the number is about 10
- 03/11/2012 08:42:08 AM
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Nope
- 03/11/2012 04:14:45 PM
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Re: Nope
- 03/11/2012 04:39:07 PM
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Verin and Graendal each have angreal of unkown strength
- 03/11/2012 06:15:49 PM
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Re: Addressing problems with the Bell Curve
- 01/11/2012 06:23:07 PM
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Re: Addressing problems with the Bell Curve
- 01/11/2012 09:48:04 PM
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I'll have to disagree with much of this
- 03/11/2012 07:46:31 AM
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Why do you always think Strength is the point
- 03/11/2012 04:35:26 PM
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I don't - I merely appreciate it as a factor
- 03/11/2012 04:48:24 PM
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0 Evidence? Cyndane v. Alivia is plenty of evidence EDIT with exact quote
- 03/11/2012 06:17:39 PM
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One other thing you have forgotten about
- 03/11/2012 10:13:09 PM
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Your agenda blinds you to logic yet again...As I'll simply demonstrate with your example here...
- 03/11/2012 11:08:13 PM
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Nope, the only experience she has in reality is against Rand
- 03/11/2012 11:09:54 PM
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Nonsense.
- 03/11/2012 11:11:05 PM
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Believe as you will
- 03/11/2012 11:26:50 PM
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That's a classic.
- 04/11/2012 12:06:13 AM
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You misquote on a regular basis and have no grasp of the timeline in the series
- 04/11/2012 01:36:37 AM
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Hmm...
- 04/11/2012 07:08:04 AM
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stop getting all indignant ... I'm really not trying to be nasty to you
- 04/11/2012 04:20:06 PM
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Reply to your EDIT: I think YOU have a totally warped perspective, based on what you wish for.
- 03/11/2012 11:16:29 PM
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Funny that's exactly how I see your perspective
- 03/11/2012 11:25:52 PM
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I don't need to interpret the following in any way other than the obvious to get the picture...
- 04/11/2012 12:17:53 AM
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as usual you miss that there is a timeline and strength growth throughout the series *NM*
- 04/11/2012 01:47:41 AM
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