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No, just desperately trying to raise the stakes a bit... Shannow Send a noteboard - 06/11/2012 07:00:59 AM
You think it's so great that it deserves some honor or dignity... well, Mr. Rigney, Jr. has shown time and again that it does not.


Remind me how many protagonists have died so far over the course of the 12 books?

Remind me how many enemies Mat has casually defeated all comers without breaking a sweat?

Gholam
The Bad Aiel leader
Various armies
The Finns
Hordes of Shadowspawn

If we add Demandred to that casually defeated list, well, the travesty of non-fear inspiring villains will be complete.
This message last edited by Shannow on 06/11/2012 at 07:01:39 AM
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[Mik's Warp] - Demandred is.....*click to find out* Mik - 05/11/2012 01:06:42 PM 3088 Views
There are only 2 months left before AMOL comes out (or less)... Tom - 05/11/2012 02:10:07 PM 1538 Views
Nah.. forget that DomA - 05/11/2012 08:29:53 PM 1420 Views
Re: Nah.. forget that RandAllThor - 05/11/2012 10:07:46 PM 1277 Views
Re: There are only 2 months left before AMOL comes out (or less)... Mik - 06/11/2012 12:40:54 PM 1448 Views
I'm not saying it's not a well-reasoned theory; it is. Tom - 06/11/2012 06:02:36 PM 1493 Views
I say Roederan is a better choice simply because of where he is located darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 11:01:28 PM 1375 Views
Re: I say Roederan is a better choice simply because of where he is located Mik - 07/11/2012 09:42:00 AM 1641 Views
I applaud your effort, but to be honest I just can't see it darius_sedai - 07/11/2012 04:48:17 PM 1264 Views
Re: I applaud your effort, but to be honest I just can't see it DomA - 07/11/2012 08:36:34 PM 1522 Views
There has been a lot of waste in WOT..... Anonymous2000 - 06/11/2012 06:26:56 PM 1210 Views
LIKE! *NM* alanna aes sedai - 09/12/2012 02:37:49 PM 1228 Views
Whoops *NM* ßelals Girl - 06/11/2012 07:27:06 PM 742 Views
Plausible, albeit antilclimactic *NM* beetnemesis - 05/11/2012 06:32:38 PM 790 Views
Unless Mat is Demandred, at this point it will be anticlimactic. *NM* Tom - 06/11/2012 04:02:38 AM 762 Views
That would be EPIC *NM* Artsapat - 06/11/2012 07:53:30 PM 759 Views
That would be EPIC *NM* Artsapat - 06/11/2012 07:53:31 PM 748 Views
You've tried too hard... DomA - 05/11/2012 07:53:41 PM 3149 Views
Will be so disappointed if the Shadow's greatest (non-crazy) leader is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky Shannow - 05/11/2012 08:57:59 PM 1400 Views
I doubt Mat will kill him personally but TheCrownless - 05/11/2012 09:24:48 PM 1163 Views
I don't know darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 02:01:41 AM 1205 Views
My prediction of how it plays out... Shannow - 06/11/2012 07:12:15 AM 1285 Views
I don't think that's likely Sidious - 06/11/2012 06:04:55 PM 1265 Views
LOL ... it will be a saying in the next Age darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 10:36:04 PM 1177 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely DomA - 06/11/2012 11:21:21 PM 1223 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely Sidious - 07/11/2012 08:14:28 PM 1311 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely DomA - 07/11/2012 09:05:07 PM 1423 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely Sidious - 08/11/2012 05:52:16 PM 1226 Views
It sounds like we're at the same stage of vision of the AOL DomA - 08/11/2012 07:48:17 PM 1200 Views
Statistics refute some of that... Shannow - 09/11/2012 07:35:59 AM 1197 Views
We're not talking about the same things... DomA - 09/11/2012 11:31:12 PM 1190 Views
The real question is how much of that was caused by the Bore and the Collapse darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 11:50:20 PM 1247 Views
It doesn't mean no one in this Age can be at Talented or Intelligent. darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 11:43:26 PM 1364 Views
Re: It doesn't mean no one in this Age can be at Talented or Intelligent. Shannow - 10/11/2012 07:34:34 AM 1273 Views
You seriously believe that? darius_sedai - 10/11/2012 04:17:09 PM 1212 Views
Mat has grown quiet a bit since those days darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 01:55:48 AM 1361 Views
You're putting the Evil on a pedestal. Praziquantel - 06/11/2012 03:12:38 AM 1109 Views
No, just desperately trying to raise the stakes a bit... Shannow - 06/11/2012 07:00:59 AM 1260 Views
That's essentially what I was saying Praziquantel - 06/11/2012 03:35:45 PM 1375 Views
hmmm Yunalesca - 06/11/2012 10:27:00 AM 1592 Views
... is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky DomA - 06/11/2012 08:45:02 PM 1342 Views
Mat is essentially the man (men) who wrote the books Demandred studied darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 10:42:40 PM 1159 Views
Exactly... DomA - 06/11/2012 11:45:36 PM 1342 Views
... is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky DomA - 06/11/2012 08:45:29 PM 1386 Views
I didn't try hard at all; Demandred found me... Mik - 06/11/2012 03:31:41 PM 1434 Views
My biggest contention with Demandred being with the Sea Folk darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 10:54:50 PM 1303 Views
Re: My biggest contention with Demandred being with the Sea Folk DomA - 07/11/2012 12:07:02 AM 1368 Views
Well, it instantly gives the Shadow access to attacking every coastal city... Shannow - 07/11/2012 10:32:23 AM 1258 Views
Exactly! Mik - 07/11/2012 10:54:14 AM 1895 Views
If he married Nynaeve and Moiraine he'd have his wives at Rand's side in the Pit too.... DomA - 07/11/2012 03:28:38 PM 1303 Views
I find that approach unnecessarily convoluted. Just hit them with 1 billion Trollocs and crush them. Shannow - 08/11/2012 07:00:36 AM 1230 Views
Not likely he has that many... DomA - 08/11/2012 03:00:32 PM 1199 Views
May I ask some practical questions? Sidious - 08/11/2012 05:28:41 PM 1165 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? Praziquantel - 08/11/2012 10:35:38 PM 1269 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? darius_sedai - 10/11/2012 12:09:15 AM 1209 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? Praziquantel - 10/11/2012 03:11:59 AM 1176 Views
LOL ... Seems more than a little far fetched *NM* darius_sedai - 10/11/2012 06:17:34 AM 695 Views
Well you asked for an explanation Praziquantel - 13/11/2012 10:23:41 PM 1114 Views
fair enough *NM* darius_sedai - 14/11/2012 01:31:52 AM 670 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? DomA - 10/11/2012 07:15:58 PM 1240 Views
Exactly! darius_sedai - 11/11/2012 07:38:46 AM 1236 Views
Good practical questions... Shannow - 09/11/2012 07:24:14 AM 1250 Views
He doesn't need the SF for that darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 03:00:34 PM 1015 Views
Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 02:57:16 PM 1081 Views
Re: Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about DomA - 09/11/2012 09:03:14 PM 1209 Views
I know. I'm saying they were not doing this with Traveling in mind. darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 11:57:34 PM 1163 Views
Re: I know. I'm saying they were not doing this with Traveling in mind. DomA - 10/11/2012 10:08:04 PM 2727 Views
I see what you are getting at ... And I see how Zaida used it to her advantage darius_sedai - 11/11/2012 07:45:19 AM 1230 Views
Re: I see what you are getting at ... And I see how Zaida used it to her advantage DomA - 12/11/2012 02:57:08 PM 1265 Views
Nesta sent 2 ambassadors to the Coramoor. Both looking for the same thing darius_sedai - 12/11/2012 04:11:50 PM 1275 Views
Re: Nesta sent 2 ambassadors to the Coramoor. Both looking for the same thing DomA - 12/11/2012 06:01:33 PM 1395 Views
Well there is also the fact that Harine pretty much tells us she MUST make a Bargain darius_sedai - 12/11/2012 06:51:24 PM 1421 Views
Re: Well there is also the fact that Harine pretty much tells us she MUST make a Bargain DomA - 12/11/2012 09:30:57 PM 1209 Views
Not to belabor the point darius_sedai - 12/11/2012 10:56:39 PM 1134 Views
Re: Not to belabor the point DomA - 13/11/2012 12:46:21 AM 1140 Views
I think you are way off base on the economics darius_sedai - 13/11/2012 01:24:35 AM 1085 Views
Re: I think you are way off base on the economics DomA - 13/11/2012 03:48:40 PM 1188 Views
no reason to *NM* darius_sedai - 14/11/2012 01:35:55 AM 689 Views
I don't see the problem... Mik - 07/11/2012 10:52:49 AM 2055 Views
This is preposterous DomA - 07/11/2012 04:15:11 PM 1642 Views
Who? ßelals Girl - 06/11/2012 07:29:46 PM 1176 Views
Paah, he's clearly on the Isle of Madmen to the south. Stephen - 10/11/2012 03:28:26 AM 1575 Views
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