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I applaud your effort, but to be honest I just can't see it darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 07/11/2012 04:48:17 PM
Demandred with the SF has several weaknesses.

1. They aren't a relevant military force
2. They have been split up since KoD to delivery supplies where Demandred seems to be in the middle of a consolidation
3. They are not strategically well placed at the moment
4. They are a Naval force with no one to fight

Even if Demandred isn't Roedran, I have a hard time seeing him being among the Sea Folk. I think what you have put forward is for the most part well reasoned and solid, but RJ always had a purpose for where he placed characters and Demandred among the Sea Folk seems to lack that ... Nearly all of the Forsaken (Semirhage, Mesaana, Rahvin, Be'lal, Sammael, Graendal, Aran'gar, Osan'gar) were attached to major Political/Ruling bodies, those that were not (Moghedien, Asmodean, Lanfear, Ishamael)directly involved themselves with Rand and company (or in the case of Moghedien Nynaeve).

Demandred is clearly not working an angle with any of the main cast of characters or he would have been spotted by now (either by the readers or Graendal who keeps tabs on the TR group). That leaves us with limited options to pin him down.

1. Roedran
2. Borderlanders
3. Seanchan
4. Sea Folk
5. Aiel

There don't seem to be any good candidates among the Aiel, Borderlanders or the Seanchan since RJ and BSand ruled out anyone who has appeared "on camera" prior to AMoL ... which IMO also rules out Amel who, did have a cameo, even if a brief one.

Roedran is well placed strategically and with a consolidated Murrandy has a significant power base to open hostilities ... Andor is in a weakened state thanks to the Trolloc's invasion, which Demandred can make worse by provoking a conflict with the Seanchan. Even if you throw out a human army, He is in a prime location as Roedran to direct armies of Trollocs coming out of the Ways all throughout the continent.

Personally I think Demandred having an alter-ego is kind of lame, he doesn't need it at this stage in the books and it would be much more interesting to me if he simply appeared with dozens of Trolloc Hoards coming from various Waygates to smash the southlands.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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[Mik's Warp] - Demandred is.....*click to find out* - 05/11/2012 01:06:42 PM 3194 Views
There are only 2 months left before AMOL comes out (or less)... - 05/11/2012 02:10:07 PM 1645 Views
Nah.. forget that - 05/11/2012 08:29:53 PM 1522 Views
Re: Nah.. forget that - 05/11/2012 10:07:46 PM 1377 Views
Re: There are only 2 months left before AMOL comes out (or less)... - 06/11/2012 12:40:54 PM 1564 Views
I'm not saying it's not a well-reasoned theory; it is. - 06/11/2012 06:02:36 PM 1582 Views
I say Roederan is a better choice simply because of where he is located - 06/11/2012 11:01:28 PM 1492 Views
Re: I say Roederan is a better choice simply because of where he is located - 07/11/2012 09:42:00 AM 1755 Views
I applaud your effort, but to be honest I just can't see it - 07/11/2012 04:48:17 PM 1393 Views
Re: I applaud your effort, but to be honest I just can't see it - 07/11/2012 08:36:34 PM 1650 Views
There has been a lot of waste in WOT..... - 06/11/2012 06:26:56 PM 1314 Views
LIKE! *NM* - 09/12/2012 02:37:49 PM 1287 Views
Whoops *NM* - 06/11/2012 07:27:06 PM 798 Views
Plausible, albeit antilclimactic *NM* - 05/11/2012 06:32:38 PM 851 Views
Unless Mat is Demandred, at this point it will be anticlimactic. *NM* - 06/11/2012 04:02:38 AM 808 Views
That would be EPIC *NM* - 06/11/2012 07:53:30 PM 822 Views
That would be EPIC *NM* - 06/11/2012 07:53:31 PM 809 Views
You've tried too hard... - 05/11/2012 07:53:41 PM 3279 Views
Will be so disappointed if the Shadow's greatest (non-crazy) leader is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky - 05/11/2012 08:57:59 PM 1494 Views
I doubt Mat will kill him personally but - 05/11/2012 09:24:48 PM 1286 Views
I don't know - 06/11/2012 02:01:41 AM 1313 Views
My prediction of how it plays out... - 06/11/2012 07:12:15 AM 1380 Views
I don't think that's likely - 06/11/2012 06:04:55 PM 1380 Views
LOL ... it will be a saying in the next Age - 06/11/2012 10:36:04 PM 1278 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely - 06/11/2012 11:21:21 PM 1344 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely - 07/11/2012 08:14:28 PM 1424 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely - 07/11/2012 09:05:07 PM 1558 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely - 08/11/2012 05:52:16 PM 1343 Views
It sounds like we're at the same stage of vision of the AOL - 08/11/2012 07:48:17 PM 1315 Views
Statistics refute some of that... - 09/11/2012 07:35:59 AM 1305 Views
We're not talking about the same things... - 09/11/2012 11:31:12 PM 1285 Views
It doesn't mean no one in this Age can be at Talented or Intelligent. - 09/11/2012 11:43:26 PM 1462 Views
Re: It doesn't mean no one in this Age can be at Talented or Intelligent. - 10/11/2012 07:34:34 AM 1386 Views
You seriously believe that? - 10/11/2012 04:17:09 PM 1319 Views
Mat has grown quiet a bit since those days - 06/11/2012 01:55:48 AM 1469 Views
You're putting the Evil on a pedestal. - 06/11/2012 03:12:38 AM 1201 Views
No, just desperately trying to raise the stakes a bit... - 06/11/2012 07:00:59 AM 1367 Views
That's essentially what I was saying - 06/11/2012 03:35:45 PM 1477 Views
hmmm - 06/11/2012 10:27:00 AM 1702 Views
... is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky - 06/11/2012 08:45:02 PM 1470 Views
Mat is essentially the man (men) who wrote the books Demandred studied - 06/11/2012 10:42:40 PM 1269 Views
Exactly... - 06/11/2012 11:45:36 PM 1461 Views
... is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky - 06/11/2012 08:45:29 PM 1502 Views
I didn't try hard at all; Demandred found me... - 06/11/2012 03:31:41 PM 1544 Views
My biggest contention with Demandred being with the Sea Folk - 06/11/2012 10:54:50 PM 1418 Views
Re: My biggest contention with Demandred being with the Sea Folk - 07/11/2012 12:07:02 AM 1483 Views
Well, it instantly gives the Shadow access to attacking every coastal city... - 07/11/2012 10:32:23 AM 1377 Views
Exactly! - 07/11/2012 10:54:14 AM 2015 Views
If he married Nynaeve and Moiraine he'd have his wives at Rand's side in the Pit too.... - 07/11/2012 03:28:38 PM 1434 Views
I find that approach unnecessarily convoluted. Just hit them with 1 billion Trollocs and crush them. - 08/11/2012 07:00:36 AM 1358 Views
Not likely he has that many... - 08/11/2012 03:00:32 PM 1308 Views
May I ask some practical questions? - 08/11/2012 05:28:41 PM 1278 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? - 08/11/2012 10:35:38 PM 1366 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? - 10/11/2012 12:09:15 AM 1312 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? - 10/11/2012 03:11:59 AM 1315 Views
LOL ... Seems more than a little far fetched *NM* - 10/11/2012 06:17:34 AM 759 Views
Well you asked for an explanation - 13/11/2012 10:23:41 PM 1212 Views
fair enough *NM* - 14/11/2012 01:31:52 AM 722 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? - 10/11/2012 07:15:58 PM 1337 Views
Exactly! - 11/11/2012 07:38:46 AM 1335 Views
Good practical questions... - 09/11/2012 07:24:14 AM 1369 Views
He doesn't need the SF for that - 09/11/2012 03:00:34 PM 1130 Views
Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about - 09/11/2012 02:57:16 PM 1182 Views
Re: Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about - 09/11/2012 09:03:14 PM 1314 Views
I know. I'm saying they were not doing this with Traveling in mind. - 09/11/2012 11:57:34 PM 1260 Views
Re: I know. I'm saying they were not doing this with Traveling in mind. - 10/11/2012 10:08:04 PM 2848 Views
I see what you are getting at ... And I see how Zaida used it to her advantage - 11/11/2012 07:45:19 AM 1339 Views
Re: I see what you are getting at ... And I see how Zaida used it to her advantage - 12/11/2012 02:57:08 PM 1367 Views
Nesta sent 2 ambassadors to the Coramoor. Both looking for the same thing - 12/11/2012 04:11:50 PM 1387 Views
Re: Nesta sent 2 ambassadors to the Coramoor. Both looking for the same thing - 12/11/2012 06:01:33 PM 1497 Views
Well there is also the fact that Harine pretty much tells us she MUST make a Bargain - 12/11/2012 06:51:24 PM 1540 Views
Re: Well there is also the fact that Harine pretty much tells us she MUST make a Bargain - 12/11/2012 09:30:57 PM 1325 Views
Not to belabor the point - 12/11/2012 10:56:39 PM 1212 Views
Re: Not to belabor the point - 13/11/2012 12:46:21 AM 1248 Views
I think you are way off base on the economics - 13/11/2012 01:24:35 AM 1194 Views
Re: I think you are way off base on the economics - 13/11/2012 03:48:40 PM 1302 Views
no reason to *NM* - 14/11/2012 01:35:55 AM 734 Views
I don't see the problem... - 07/11/2012 10:52:49 AM 2164 Views
This is preposterous - 07/11/2012 04:15:11 PM 1766 Views
Who? - 06/11/2012 07:29:46 PM 1289 Views
Paah, he's clearly on the Isle of Madmen to the south. - 10/11/2012 03:28:26 AM 1691 Views

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