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I think we do know a couple of things darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 01/12/2012 03:32:09 PM
All it proves is that Min, a non-channeler, cannot mask the bond to Rand. We haven't seen any other non-channelers holding a bond to know whether this is the norm or not, and I doubt we will since only a channeler can initiate a bond.

Furthermore, it doesn't even begin to prove that a bonded channeler can mask the bond. Just because channelers who hold bonds can mask them doesn't mean that channelers who were bonded can mask them. We haven't seen even one example of this yet.


1. Bond Holder can mask the bond if they are a Channeler
2. Bondee cannont mask the bond at all ... if Rand could have masked Alanna he would have

think evidence I'll grant you, but it seems likely IMO.
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Highly doubtful... fionwe1987 - 29/11/2012 07:14:33 PM 1349 Views
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Regarding Rand "tracking her actions", she can mask the bond to take care of that. *NM* lilltempest - 29/11/2012 07:45:03 PM 822 Views
That masking works both ways... *NM* fionwe1987 - 29/11/2012 07:49:41 PM 689 Views
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Moiraine and Myrelle seem to have a similar view... fionwe1987 - 04/12/2012 12:10:05 AM 1448 Views
Mostly agreed darius_sedai - 04/12/2012 04:34:47 AM 1277 Views
Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 29/11/2012 08:42:25 PM 1255 Views
I think Aviendha (she told Min about it) is simply ignorant about the mechanics of masking *NM* darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 03:44:01 AM 725 Views
Elayne told Min... fionwe1987 - 30/11/2012 05:07:44 AM 1122 Views
You are correct ... Min told Aviendha! darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 03:59:27 PM 1188 Views
Re: You are correct ... Min told Aviendha! darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 04:04:53 PM 1289 Views
Nope.. fionwe1987 - 30/11/2012 08:56:59 PM 1104 Views
this is the scene I'm referring too ... but it DID work for Aviendha darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 10:19:21 PM 1242 Views
Thanks to both of you for digging this up... lilltempest - 01/12/2012 04:01:48 AM 1217 Views
Re: Thanks to both of you for digging this up... fionwe1987 - 01/12/2012 04:37:54 AM 1196 Views
About Alanna, that isn't right... lilltempest - 01/12/2012 05:51:03 AM 1210 Views
It most certainly is... fionwe1987 - 01/12/2012 03:52:45 PM 1251 Views
LOL! I love how you make up nonexistent scenes to support your case. lilltempest - 01/12/2012 11:12:46 PM 1238 Views
Says the woman who's come up with the most ridiculously fantastic scenarios... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2012 03:04:54 AM 1181 Views
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I think we do know a couple of things darius_sedai - 01/12/2012 03:32:09 PM 1133 Views
Ah, then yes, we're on the same side of this argument. lilltempest - 01/12/2012 11:08:23 PM 1167 Views
You still haven't addressed the main point... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2012 03:01:32 AM 1286 Views
Hmmm fionwe1987 - 01/12/2012 04:22:26 AM 1205 Views
Min is not the Warder in the situation with Rand. She is the only non-Channeler who is a bond holde darius_sedai - 01/12/2012 05:52:08 AM 1232 Views
I'm pretty sure Elayas can't mask the bond either ... I'd have to go look, but I think there darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 03:41:51 AM 1223 Views
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found it darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 10:11:53 PM 1321 Views
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Not seeing it in the situation you wrote. Sorry. fionwe1987 - 01/12/2012 03:57:32 PM 1287 Views
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