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One Power strength: New information from RJ's notes fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 01/05/2014 11:39:32 PM

Lets' try revive the board a little eh?

As some of you may know, RJ's notes are now publicly viewable at the Charleston Library. Terez, of the Theoryland database fame, appropriately dug into this trove of information, and has been dribbling out minor tidbits.

Given one of the major obsessions of this board used to be the OP strength list, I'm happy to report there's extensive notes on that, and we'll probably see some form of the strength list show up in the WoT encyclopedia Harriet is compiling (due out next year most likely).

Other than that, though, there are some major shockers:

1) There was a time when RJ actually wanted to place Cadsuane higher than Egwene/Elayne/Aviendha at full potential. He changed his mind, probably because he was reminded that the Aes Sedai clearly say Elayne was the strongest woman to have come to the Tower in a thousand years.

2) Cadsuane is very close in strength to those three, however.

3) Biggest shocker: That 21 level list? It was all Aes Sedai only, and Elaida/Siuan/Moiraine topped that list (level 1). Stronger women (including Cadsuane) were marked with +x from that list.

4) The Aes Sedai list, however, was later expanded to a 33 level list. Daigian was level 33, and Elaida level 1 in this new Aes Sedai list.

5) The complete strength list has around 66 levels (maybe a little more). Moiraine after time with the Finns is about level 66. In this new list, Elaida is at level 13, Daigian at level 45, and all women stronger than Elaida occupy levels 1-12.

6) Nynaeve is indeed high up in the list. Lanfear is level 1. No confirmation, but Sharina might indeed be the same level.

7) From hints Terez has given, Alivia is not Lanfear level.

Brandon was most likely wrong about Mesaana being a much weaker Foresaken.

9) There doesn't seem to be any actually strength values for these levels, unfortunately.

10) A juicy tidbit: an "old school" Aes Sedai, who is also old, never reached her full potential. No clue who this is, but it can be worked out apparently.

Discuss!

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One Power strength: New information from RJ's notes - 01/05/2014 11:39:32 PM 4488 Views
interesting. i wonder what else they'll dig up - 01/05/2014 11:46:19 PM 1838 Views
College of Charleston library - 02/05/2014 12:21:01 AM 1934 Views
Still... really cool, thanks! *NM* - 03/05/2014 06:35:05 PM 1010 Views
Mesaana - 02/05/2014 12:26:19 AM 1915 Views
Re: Mesaana - 02/05/2014 12:37:52 AM 1976 Views
Danelle - 02/05/2014 12:59:51 AM 1838 Views
Interesting... - 02/05/2014 05:13:44 PM 1895 Views
Re: Mesaana - 26/05/2015 10:21:33 PM 1478 Views
Bringing it all together... - 02/05/2014 10:34:12 AM 1843 Views
Can't accept that, sorry... - 02/05/2014 03:17:05 PM 1912 Views
How that CAN be interpreted however, is... - 02/05/2014 03:38:38 PM 1568 Views
Sorry, no... - 02/05/2014 06:00:56 PM 1602 Views
Here are some key flaws, unfortunately... - 02/05/2014 07:56:53 PM 1471 Views
Sorry, you're mistaking the Tower for the world... - 02/05/2014 09:50:23 PM 1526 Views
Re: Sorry, you're mistaking the Tower for the world... - 02/05/2014 09:59:45 PM 1523 Views
Not totally accurate - 17/05/2015 11:15:30 PM 1437 Views
Re: Not totally accurate - 05/06/2015 03:23:08 PM 1606 Views
Re: Not totally accurate - 05/06/2015 08:22:13 PM 1447 Views
Re: Not totally accurate - 05/06/2015 09:16:51 PM 1754 Views
Re: Not totally accurate - 06/06/2015 03:48:34 PM 1420 Views
Re: How that CAN be interpreted however, is... - 02/05/2014 09:39:06 PM 1745 Views
Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. - 02/05/2014 09:57:37 PM 1622 Views
Ahh, the Rand with Egwene and Elayne scene... - 02/05/2014 10:19:05 PM 1834 Views
Re: Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. - 02/05/2014 10:45:12 PM 1675 Views
About that... - 02/05/2014 10:48:18 PM 1509 Views
Re: About that... - 02/05/2014 11:12:01 PM 1663 Views
Re: About that... - 17/05/2015 03:07:22 AM 1411 Views
Re: Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. - 05/06/2015 03:16:50 PM 1664 Views
Thanks a ton for that Dom... - 02/05/2014 10:24:02 PM 1545 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... - 02/05/2014 11:09:16 PM 1460 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... - 02/05/2014 11:36:55 PM 1616 Views
More on Aiel learners - 03/05/2014 12:46:19 AM 1598 Views
Interesting. - 03/05/2014 02:32:23 AM 1511 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... - 03/05/2014 01:02:23 AM 1603 Views
Oh... - 03/05/2014 02:35:08 AM 1536 Views
Re: Oh... - 03/05/2014 04:29:34 AM 2090 Views
Can you clarify something here Dom/Terez? - 07/05/2014 01:31:54 AM 1632 Views
Re: Can you clarify something here Dom/Terez? - 07/05/2014 02:59:42 AM 1774 Views
Thanks Dom, I'm genuinely puzzled, though... - 07/05/2014 09:04:08 AM 1653 Views
Some things to consider... - 07/05/2014 11:22:46 PM 1490 Views
Re: Some things to consider... - 17/05/2015 03:32:22 AM 1423 Views
Vegeta! What does the scouter say about his power level? - 02/05/2014 04:38:59 PM 1510 Views
mmm, Vegeta *NM* - 03/05/2014 08:32:36 AM 1004 Views
Sorilea and comments on the general structure of the notes - 02/05/2014 09:20:26 PM 1823 Views
Is there any reference whatsoever about strength multiples? - 02/05/2014 09:34:50 PM 1671 Views
I will let you know if I see something like that... - 02/05/2014 10:20:46 PM 1536 Views
Thanks. Because it will solve the entire riddle - 03/05/2014 11:04:31 PM 1639 Views
Re: Thanks. Because it will solve the entire riddle - 04/05/2014 06:16:52 AM 1666 Views
Interesting... - 04/05/2014 08:14:19 AM 1696 Views
Re: Interesting... - 05/05/2014 04:08:41 PM 1609 Views
LOL! - 02/05/2014 09:46:11 PM 1691 Views
More info on Sorilea - 02/05/2014 10:04:50 PM 1821 Views
This is great! - 02/05/2014 10:23:31 PM 1745 Views
In the original he might have kissed her. - 03/05/2014 12:49:53 AM 1593 Views
Having read some of his other books with sex, I've always been curious about this. - 05/05/2014 02:53:00 PM 1819 Views
Easy answer - 10/05/2014 02:49:53 PM 1549 Views
Can't argue with that! - 18/05/2014 12:31:01 AM 1686 Views
Therava/Galina - 10/05/2014 02:58:09 PM 2135 Views
Came across one of the oldest strength lists I'd seen... - 02/05/2014 10:46:29 PM 1615 Views
#10 seems weird. An Aes Sedai who never reached her full potential? - 03/05/2014 06:43:41 PM 1763 Views
Not weird. There is a good reason. - 03/05/2014 09:30:40 PM 1749 Views
One question... - 03/05/2014 09:44:35 PM 1698 Views
yes to both *NM* - 03/05/2014 10:49:29 PM 1067 Views
Suian? - 04/05/2014 04:50:32 PM 1661 Views
Does not meet the criteria I gave. *NM* - 10/05/2014 05:23:27 AM 960 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 11/05/2014 05:49:31 AM 1586 Views
Not someone who was severed, burned out, or anything like that. *NM* - 11/05/2014 01:27:28 PM 977 Views
Did she join the Aes Sedai especially early or late in life? - 11/05/2014 01:47:27 PM 1592 Views
no... - 11/05/2014 04:27:07 PM 1465 Views
Wild guess... - 11/05/2014 06:51:27 PM 1510 Views
One of Terez's criteria - 11/05/2014 09:24:57 PM 1470 Views
Hmmm... - 12/05/2014 08:51:33 AM 1472 Views
Re: Hmmm... - 13/05/2014 06:14:12 PM 1652 Views
Even I don't know what Dom is talking about. *NM* - 13/05/2014 06:24:23 PM 953 Views
Does it have anything to do with the Sharans? - 13/05/2014 10:35:45 PM 1529 Views
no - 14/05/2014 07:52:27 AM 1561 Views
Wasn't there a Sister who was a Queen or sister to a King or something like that... - 13/05/2014 09:26:02 PM 1586 Views
Kiruna... - 13/05/2014 10:34:32 PM 1493 Views
Re: Hmmm... - 13/05/2014 10:38:05 PM 1427 Views
Re: Hmmm... - 14/05/2014 04:09:42 AM 1503 Views
Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 14/05/2014 04:37:20 AM 1582 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 14/05/2014 07:55:20 AM 1543 Views
- 14/05/2014 08:14:05 AM 1471 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 15/05/2014 03:59:02 AM 1616 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 16/05/2014 04:06:02 PM 1473 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 17/05/2014 03:01:25 AM 1584 Views
Perhaps Romanda? - 05/06/2015 04:22:31 PM 1617 Views
Re: Perhaps Romanda? - 05/06/2015 08:39:31 PM 1294 Views
Re: Wild guess... - 12/05/2014 05:33:53 AM 1584 Views
Alternatively, someone who went to live in Far Madding... - 12/05/2014 12:08:07 PM 1555 Views
That was one of my guesses... - 12/05/2014 04:57:56 PM 1350 Views
Redirect to my initial "Not weird" post. *NM* - 12/05/2014 06:59:02 PM 958 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 20/05/2014 02:23:13 AM 1486 Views
Lots of no *NM* - 20/05/2014 02:30:25 AM 971 Views
You're killing me. - 20/05/2014 02:55:21 AM 1483 Views
I won't just tell you :p But... - 20/05/2014 10:31:27 AM 1578 Views
Wild speculation - 20/05/2014 01:39:52 PM 1489 Views
Could it be Verin who always used her angreal? - 20/05/2014 02:07:30 PM 1476 Views
Hmmm - 20/05/2014 03:37:57 PM 1489 Views
Well, I'm not saying she did it to appear weaker... - 20/05/2014 03:48:10 PM 1396 Views
The buffer - 20/05/2014 04:10:58 PM 1509 Views
I doubt using an angreal means you don't progress in natural strength - 20/05/2014 06:02:00 PM 1669 Views
Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 20/05/2014 11:53:11 PM 1532 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 21/05/2014 01:55:15 AM 1473 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 22/05/2014 02:33:30 AM 1542 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 22/05/2014 05:04:00 AM 1598 Views
So... - 22/05/2014 05:12:48 AM 1446 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 22/05/2014 11:55:38 AM 1451 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 24/05/2014 02:07:01 AM 1491 Views
I didn't say that - 24/05/2014 11:24:30 PM 1537 Views
Re: I didn't say that - 25/05/2014 02:32:46 PM 1518 Views
did she deliberately keep her growth slow? A small theory too - 17/05/2015 11:54:28 PM 1433 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 04/06/2015 05:49:42 PM 1671 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 04/06/2015 06:05:28 PM 1381 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 04/06/2015 06:23:28 PM 1630 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 04/06/2015 08:37:20 PM 1326 Views
I think this will be in the Encyclopedia, so... - 10/06/2015 03:06:42 PM 1473 Views
you are such a tease *NM* - 10/06/2015 09:05:10 PM 791 Views
Why doesn't someone... - 24/05/2014 11:25:51 PM 1671 Views
Favourite part about this post... - 12/05/2014 07:12:51 AM 1691 Views
With regard to #10- does it involve the Oath Rod, in some way? - 15/05/2014 02:53:45 PM 1495 Views
no *NM* - 15/05/2014 07:16:16 PM 941 Views
Oh, I know! It's the Sea Folk Aes Sedai! - 17/05/2014 01:32:04 PM 1564 Views
Re: Oh, I know! It's the Sea Folk Aes Sedai! - 17/05/2014 08:45:59 PM 1605 Views
An Aes Sedai who was sent away from the Tower? - 17/05/2014 10:01:44 PM 1603 Views
Again, no reason to think this Aes Sedai did not channel often. *NM* - 18/05/2014 04:32:06 AM 974 Views
Did the Aes Sedai live in relative seclusion, did she have a Warder, and did that Warder die? *NM* - 20/05/2014 06:03:04 PM 1079 Views
Too specific - 20/05/2014 11:51:25 PM 1545 Views
Re: Too specific - 21/05/2014 05:32:32 AM 1457 Views
You think THAT isn't specific? *NM* - 22/05/2014 02:41:53 AM 981 Views
It's a fine mess that no one can work out - 09/06/2014 09:20:56 AM 1690 Views
Re: It's a fine mess that no one can work out - 04/06/2015 08:48:20 PM 1709 Views

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