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Re: Sorry, you're mistaking the Tower for the world... Shannow Send a noteboard - 02/05/2014 09:59:45 PM

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You're making the rather absurd assumption that because weaker women are coming to the Tower, there must be a worldwide drop in strength. RJ made several statements which joined together make it beyond doubt that the culling of male channelers did not reduce strength in the population, only the total number of channelers. Which makes sense. We know strength in the Power is not genetic at all. Nor does it depend on having the spark. Why would indiscriminate killing of all male sparkers result in only stronger channelers being born less frequently?

Why would the Tower pick only weaker sisters? Their selection policy actually discriminates AGAINST weaker channelers.

They have a selection bias in favour of stronger channelers. What would prevent them from finding stronger channelers, but not prevent them from finding weaker ones?

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One Power strength: New information from RJ's notes fionwe1987 - 01/05/2014 11:39:32 PM 4724 Views
interesting. i wonder what else they'll dig up AgentApple - 01/05/2014 11:46:19 PM 2030 Views
College of Charleston library Terez - 02/05/2014 12:21:01 AM 2123 Views
Still... really cool, thanks! *NM* beetnemesis - 03/05/2014 06:35:05 PM 1106 Views
Mesaana Terez - 02/05/2014 12:26:19 AM 2128 Views
Re: Mesaana fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 12:37:52 AM 2196 Views
Danelle Terez - 02/05/2014 12:59:51 AM 2031 Views
Interesting... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 05:13:44 PM 2067 Views
Re: Mesaana darius_sedai - 26/05/2015 10:21:33 PM 1669 Views
Bringing it all together... Shannow - 02/05/2014 10:34:12 AM 2053 Views
Can't accept that, sorry... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 03:17:05 PM 2132 Views
How that CAN be interpreted however, is... Shannow - 02/05/2014 03:38:38 PM 1788 Views
Sorry, no... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 06:00:56 PM 1803 Views
Here are some key flaws, unfortunately... Shannow - 02/05/2014 07:56:53 PM 1665 Views
Sorry, you're mistaking the Tower for the world... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 09:50:23 PM 1735 Views
Re: Sorry, you're mistaking the Tower for the world... Shannow - 02/05/2014 09:59:45 PM 1719 Views
Who said the Tower picked weaker channelers? There's an interesting Egwene quote... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:13:08 PM 1761 Views
Not totally accurate darius_sedai - 17/05/2015 11:15:30 PM 1646 Views
Re: Not totally accurate RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/06/2015 03:23:08 PM 1813 Views
Re: Not totally accurate darius_sedai - 05/06/2015 08:22:13 PM 1639 Views
Re: Not totally accurate RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/06/2015 09:16:51 PM 1983 Views
Re: Not totally accurate darius_sedai - 06/06/2015 03:48:34 PM 1619 Views
Re: How that CAN be interpreted however, is... DomA - 02/05/2014 09:39:06 PM 1926 Views
Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. Shannow - 02/05/2014 09:57:37 PM 1801 Views
Ahh, the Rand with Egwene and Elayne scene... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:19:05 PM 2165 Views
Re: Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. DomA - 02/05/2014 10:45:12 PM 1853 Views
About that... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:48:18 PM 1705 Views
Re: About that... DomA - 02/05/2014 11:12:01 PM 1851 Views
Re: About that... darius_sedai - 17/05/2015 03:07:22 AM 1567 Views
Re: Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/06/2015 03:16:50 PM 1850 Views
Thanks a ton for that Dom... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:24:02 PM 1719 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... DomA - 02/05/2014 11:09:16 PM 1649 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 11:36:55 PM 1800 Views
More on Aiel learners Terez - 03/05/2014 12:46:19 AM 1770 Views
Interesting. fionwe1987 - 03/05/2014 02:32:23 AM 1698 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... DomA - 03/05/2014 01:02:23 AM 1809 Views
Oh... fionwe1987 - 03/05/2014 02:35:08 AM 1738 Views
Re: Oh... DomA - 03/05/2014 04:29:34 AM 2276 Views
Can you clarify something here Dom/Terez? fionwe1987 - 07/05/2014 01:31:54 AM 1855 Views
Re: Can you clarify something here Dom/Terez? DomA - 07/05/2014 02:59:42 AM 1952 Views
Thanks Dom, I'm genuinely puzzled, though... Shannow - 07/05/2014 09:04:08 AM 1874 Views
Some things to consider... fionwe1987 - 07/05/2014 11:22:46 PM 1689 Views
Re: Some things to consider... darius_sedai - 17/05/2015 03:32:22 AM 1586 Views
Vegeta! What does the scouter say about his power level? mogi67 - 02/05/2014 04:38:59 PM 1692 Views
mmm, Vegeta *NM* Terez - 03/05/2014 08:32:36 AM 1106 Views
Sorilea and comments on the general structure of the notes Terez - 02/05/2014 09:20:26 PM 2037 Views
Is there any reference whatsoever about strength multiples? Shannow - 02/05/2014 09:34:50 PM 1876 Views
I will let you know if I see something like that... Terez - 02/05/2014 10:20:46 PM 1707 Views
Thanks. Because it will solve the entire riddle Shannow - 03/05/2014 11:04:31 PM 1832 Views
Re: Thanks. Because it will solve the entire riddle DomA - 04/05/2014 06:16:52 AM 1867 Views
Interesting... fionwe1987 - 04/05/2014 08:14:19 AM 1877 Views
Re: Interesting... DomA - 05/05/2014 04:08:41 PM 1827 Views
LOL! fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 09:46:11 PM 1907 Views
More info on Sorilea Terez - 02/05/2014 10:04:50 PM 2004 Views
This is great! fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:23:31 PM 1960 Views
In the original he might have kissed her. Terez - 03/05/2014 12:49:53 AM 1772 Views
Having read some of his other books with sex, I've always been curious about this. MonCul - 05/05/2014 02:53:00 PM 2040 Views
Re: Having read some of his other books with sex, I've always been curious about this. DomA - 05/05/2014 04:25:18 PM 1754 Views
Easy answer Terez - 10/05/2014 02:49:53 PM 1765 Views
Can't argue with that! MonCul - 18/05/2014 12:31:01 AM 1899 Views
Therava/Galina Terez - 10/05/2014 02:58:09 PM 2392 Views
Came across one of the oldest strength lists I'd seen... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:46:29 PM 1812 Views
#10 seems weird. An Aes Sedai who never reached her full potential? beetnemesis - 03/05/2014 06:43:41 PM 1943 Views
Not weird. There is a good reason. Terez - 03/05/2014 09:30:40 PM 1921 Views
One question... fionwe1987 - 03/05/2014 09:44:35 PM 1873 Views
yes to both *NM* Terez - 03/05/2014 10:49:29 PM 1154 Views
Suian? MikeyMikeyMikey - 04/05/2014 04:50:32 PM 1825 Views
I see why you think that, but by the way Aes Sedai judge people on strength, I doubt it beetnemesis - 09/05/2014 03:48:21 PM 1593 Views
Does not meet the criteria I gave. *NM* Terez - 10/05/2014 05:23:27 AM 1052 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. Dirty - 11/05/2014 05:49:31 AM 1759 Views
Not someone who was severed, burned out, or anything like that. *NM* Terez - 11/05/2014 01:27:28 PM 1068 Views
Did she join the Aes Sedai especially early or late in life? beetnemesis - 11/05/2014 01:47:27 PM 1773 Views
no... Terez - 11/05/2014 04:27:07 PM 1643 Views
Wild guess... fionwe1987 - 11/05/2014 06:51:27 PM 1679 Views
One of Terez's criteria DomA - 11/05/2014 09:24:57 PM 1635 Views
Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 12/05/2014 08:51:33 AM 1662 Views
Re: Hmmm... DomA - 13/05/2014 06:14:12 PM 1864 Views
Even I don't know what Dom is talking about. *NM* Terez - 13/05/2014 06:24:23 PM 1045 Views
Does it have anything to do with the Sharans? fionwe1987 - 13/05/2014 10:35:45 PM 1701 Views
no Terez - 14/05/2014 07:52:27 AM 1742 Views
Wasn't there a Sister who was a Queen or sister to a King or something like that... Shannow - 13/05/2014 09:26:02 PM 1784 Views
Kiruna... fionwe1987 - 13/05/2014 10:34:32 PM 1730 Views
Re: Wasn't there a Sister who was a Queen or sister to a King or something like that... DomA - 14/05/2014 03:16:24 AM 1818 Views
Re: Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 13/05/2014 10:38:05 PM 1593 Views
Re: Hmmm... DomA - 14/05/2014 04:09:42 AM 1682 Views
Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? fionwe1987 - 14/05/2014 04:37:20 AM 1757 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? Terez - 14/05/2014 07:55:20 AM 1721 Views
fionwe1987 - 14/05/2014 08:14:05 AM 1645 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? DomA - 15/05/2014 03:59:02 AM 1795 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? fionwe1987 - 16/05/2014 04:06:02 PM 1659 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? DomA - 17/05/2014 03:01:25 AM 1758 Views
Perhaps Romanda? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/06/2015 04:22:31 PM 1789 Views
Re: Perhaps Romanda? darius_sedai - 05/06/2015 08:39:31 PM 1454 Views
Re: Wild guess... Terez - 12/05/2014 05:33:53 AM 1793 Views
Just tell them it is Satelle Anan, or one of those women who got burned out early in life... Shannow - 12/05/2014 11:59:06 AM 1831 Views
Have you even read my subject lines? :p *NM* Terez - 12/05/2014 01:05:47 PM 1034 Views
Alternatively, someone who went to live in Far Madding... Shannow - 12/05/2014 12:08:07 PM 1742 Views
That was one of my guesses... fionwe1987 - 12/05/2014 04:57:56 PM 1516 Views
Redirect to my initial "Not weird" post. *NM* Terez - 12/05/2014 06:59:02 PM 1059 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. Zalvera - 20/05/2014 02:23:13 AM 1664 Views
Lots of no *NM* Terez - 20/05/2014 02:30:25 AM 1082 Views
You're killing me. Zalvera - 20/05/2014 02:55:21 AM 1668 Views
I won't just tell you :p But... Terez - 20/05/2014 10:31:27 AM 1741 Views
Wild speculation Zalvera - 20/05/2014 01:39:52 PM 1669 Views
Could it be Verin who always used her angreal? Shannow - 20/05/2014 02:07:30 PM 1650 Views
Hmmm Zalvera - 20/05/2014 03:37:57 PM 1663 Views
Well, I'm not saying she did it to appear weaker... Shannow - 20/05/2014 03:48:10 PM 1582 Views
The buffer Zalvera - 20/05/2014 04:10:58 PM 1710 Views
I doubt using an angreal means you don't progress in natural strength beetnemesis - 20/05/2014 06:02:00 PM 1836 Views
Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. Terez - 20/05/2014 11:53:11 PM 1726 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. Zalvera - 21/05/2014 01:55:15 AM 1657 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. DomA - 22/05/2014 02:33:30 AM 1742 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. Terez - 22/05/2014 05:04:00 AM 1789 Views
So... fionwe1987 - 22/05/2014 05:12:48 AM 1644 Views
While I'm peeved that this issue gets more attention than the strength list, I like a mystery... Shannow - 22/05/2014 08:49:02 AM 1653 Views
Re: While I'm peeved that this issue gets more attention than the strength list, I like a mystery... Zalvera - 22/05/2014 12:03:02 PM 1551 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. Zalvera - 22/05/2014 11:55:38 AM 1651 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. DomA - 24/05/2014 02:07:01 AM 1654 Views
I didn't say that Terez - 24/05/2014 11:24:30 PM 1708 Views
Re: I didn't say that DomA - 25/05/2014 02:32:46 PM 1726 Views
did she deliberately keep her growth slow? A small theory too darius_sedai - 17/05/2015 11:54:28 PM 1622 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/06/2015 05:49:42 PM 1873 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. darius_sedai - 04/06/2015 06:05:28 PM 1564 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/06/2015 06:23:28 PM 1835 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. darius_sedai - 04/06/2015 08:37:20 PM 1518 Views
I think this will be in the Encyclopedia, so... Terez - 10/06/2015 03:06:42 PM 1651 Views
you are such a tease *NM* darius_sedai - 10/06/2015 09:05:10 PM 877 Views
Why doesn't someone... Terez - 24/05/2014 11:25:51 PM 1876 Views
Favourite part about this post... Duke - 12/05/2014 07:12:51 AM 1892 Views
With regard to #10- does it involve the Oath Rod, in some way? beetnemesis - 15/05/2014 02:53:45 PM 1672 Views
no *NM* Terez - 15/05/2014 07:16:16 PM 1032 Views
Oh, I know! It's the Sea Folk Aes Sedai! beetnemesis - 17/05/2014 01:32:04 PM 1765 Views
Re: Oh, I know! It's the Sea Folk Aes Sedai! DomA - 17/05/2014 08:45:59 PM 1799 Views
An Aes Sedai who was sent away from the Tower? beetnemesis - 17/05/2014 10:01:44 PM 1815 Views
Again, no reason to think this Aes Sedai did not channel often. *NM* Terez - 18/05/2014 04:32:06 AM 1072 Views
Did the Aes Sedai live in relative seclusion, did she have a Warder, and did that Warder die? *NM* beetnemesis - 20/05/2014 06:03:04 PM 1171 Views
Too specific Terez - 20/05/2014 11:51:25 PM 1725 Views
Re: Too specific Dirty - 21/05/2014 05:32:32 AM 1650 Views
You think THAT isn't specific? *NM* fionwe1987 - 22/05/2014 02:41:53 AM 1072 Views
It's a fine mess that no one can work out Sidious - 09/06/2014 09:20:56 AM 1910 Views
Re: It's a fine mess that no one can work out RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/06/2015 08:48:20 PM 1918 Views
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