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Re: Sorry, you're mistaking the Tower for the world... Shannow Send a noteboard - 02/05/2014 09:59:45 PM

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You're making the rather absurd assumption that because weaker women are coming to the Tower, there must be a worldwide drop in strength. RJ made several statements which joined together make it beyond doubt that the culling of male channelers did not reduce strength in the population, only the total number of channelers. Which makes sense. We know strength in the Power is not genetic at all. Nor does it depend on having the spark. Why would indiscriminate killing of all male sparkers result in only stronger channelers being born less frequently?

Why would the Tower pick only weaker sisters? Their selection policy actually discriminates AGAINST weaker channelers.

They have a selection bias in favour of stronger channelers. What would prevent them from finding stronger channelers, but not prevent them from finding weaker ones?

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One Power strength: New information from RJ's notes fionwe1987 - 01/05/2014 11:39:32 PM 4805 Views
interesting. i wonder what else they'll dig up AgentApple - 01/05/2014 11:46:19 PM 2089 Views
College of Charleston library Terez - 02/05/2014 12:21:01 AM 2184 Views
Still... really cool, thanks! *NM* beetnemesis - 03/05/2014 06:35:05 PM 1144 Views
Mesaana Terez - 02/05/2014 12:26:19 AM 2176 Views
Re: Mesaana fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 12:37:52 AM 2255 Views
Danelle Terez - 02/05/2014 12:59:51 AM 2090 Views
Interesting... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 05:13:44 PM 2119 Views
Re: Mesaana darius_sedai - 26/05/2015 10:21:33 PM 1725 Views
Bringing it all together... Shannow - 02/05/2014 10:34:12 AM 2138 Views
Can't accept that, sorry... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 03:17:05 PM 2219 Views
How that CAN be interpreted however, is... Shannow - 02/05/2014 03:38:38 PM 1850 Views
Sorry, no... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 06:00:56 PM 1876 Views
Here are some key flaws, unfortunately... Shannow - 02/05/2014 07:56:53 PM 1753 Views
Sorry, you're mistaking the Tower for the world... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 09:50:23 PM 1789 Views
Re: Sorry, you're mistaking the Tower for the world... Shannow - 02/05/2014 09:59:45 PM 1772 Views
Who said the Tower picked weaker channelers? There's an interesting Egwene quote... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:13:08 PM 1823 Views
Not totally accurate darius_sedai - 17/05/2015 11:15:30 PM 1710 Views
Re: Not totally accurate RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/06/2015 03:23:08 PM 1892 Views
Re: Not totally accurate darius_sedai - 05/06/2015 08:22:13 PM 1701 Views
Re: Not totally accurate RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/06/2015 09:16:51 PM 2062 Views
Re: Not totally accurate darius_sedai - 06/06/2015 03:48:34 PM 1678 Views
Re: How that CAN be interpreted however, is... DomA - 02/05/2014 09:39:06 PM 1980 Views
Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. Shannow - 02/05/2014 09:57:37 PM 1854 Views
Ahh, the Rand with Egwene and Elayne scene... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:19:05 PM 2224 Views
Re: Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. DomA - 02/05/2014 10:45:12 PM 1900 Views
About that... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:48:18 PM 1763 Views
Re: About that... DomA - 02/05/2014 11:12:01 PM 1911 Views
Re: About that... darius_sedai - 17/05/2015 03:07:22 AM 1629 Views
Re: Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/06/2015 03:16:50 PM 1921 Views
Thanks a ton for that Dom... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:24:02 PM 1771 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... DomA - 02/05/2014 11:09:16 PM 1712 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 11:36:55 PM 1860 Views
More on Aiel learners Terez - 03/05/2014 12:46:19 AM 1821 Views
Interesting. fionwe1987 - 03/05/2014 02:32:23 AM 1750 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... DomA - 03/05/2014 01:02:23 AM 1865 Views
Oh... fionwe1987 - 03/05/2014 02:35:08 AM 1789 Views
Re: Oh... DomA - 03/05/2014 04:29:34 AM 2339 Views
Can you clarify something here Dom/Terez? fionwe1987 - 07/05/2014 01:31:54 AM 1914 Views
Re: Can you clarify something here Dom/Terez? DomA - 07/05/2014 02:59:42 AM 2017 Views
Thanks Dom, I'm genuinely puzzled, though... Shannow - 07/05/2014 09:04:08 AM 1936 Views
Some things to consider... fionwe1987 - 07/05/2014 11:22:46 PM 1761 Views
Re: Some things to consider... darius_sedai - 17/05/2015 03:32:22 AM 1644 Views
Vegeta! What does the scouter say about his power level? mogi67 - 02/05/2014 04:38:59 PM 1756 Views
mmm, Vegeta *NM* Terez - 03/05/2014 08:32:36 AM 1142 Views
Sorilea and comments on the general structure of the notes Terez - 02/05/2014 09:20:26 PM 2117 Views
Is there any reference whatsoever about strength multiples? Shannow - 02/05/2014 09:34:50 PM 1938 Views
I will let you know if I see something like that... Terez - 02/05/2014 10:20:46 PM 1764 Views
Thanks. Because it will solve the entire riddle Shannow - 03/05/2014 11:04:31 PM 1909 Views
Re: Thanks. Because it will solve the entire riddle DomA - 04/05/2014 06:16:52 AM 1925 Views
Interesting... fionwe1987 - 04/05/2014 08:14:19 AM 1944 Views
Re: Interesting... DomA - 05/05/2014 04:08:41 PM 1896 Views
LOL! fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 09:46:11 PM 1981 Views
More info on Sorilea Terez - 02/05/2014 10:04:50 PM 2056 Views
This is great! fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:23:31 PM 2038 Views
In the original he might have kissed her. Terez - 03/05/2014 12:49:53 AM 1821 Views
Having read some of his other books with sex, I've always been curious about this. MonCul - 05/05/2014 02:53:00 PM 2089 Views
Re: Having read some of his other books with sex, I've always been curious about this. DomA - 05/05/2014 04:25:18 PM 1806 Views
Easy answer Terez - 10/05/2014 02:49:53 PM 1813 Views
Can't argue with that! MonCul - 18/05/2014 12:31:01 AM 1965 Views
Therava/Galina Terez - 10/05/2014 02:58:09 PM 2446 Views
Came across one of the oldest strength lists I'd seen... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:46:29 PM 1860 Views
#10 seems weird. An Aes Sedai who never reached her full potential? beetnemesis - 03/05/2014 06:43:41 PM 2004 Views
Not weird. There is a good reason. Terez - 03/05/2014 09:30:40 PM 1969 Views
One question... fionwe1987 - 03/05/2014 09:44:35 PM 1933 Views
yes to both *NM* Terez - 03/05/2014 10:49:29 PM 1193 Views
Suian? MikeyMikeyMikey - 04/05/2014 04:50:32 PM 1888 Views
I see why you think that, but by the way Aes Sedai judge people on strength, I doubt it beetnemesis - 09/05/2014 03:48:21 PM 1643 Views
Does not meet the criteria I gave. *NM* Terez - 10/05/2014 05:23:27 AM 1089 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. Dirty - 11/05/2014 05:49:31 AM 1815 Views
Not someone who was severed, burned out, or anything like that. *NM* Terez - 11/05/2014 01:27:28 PM 1098 Views
Did she join the Aes Sedai especially early or late in life? beetnemesis - 11/05/2014 01:47:27 PM 1825 Views
no... Terez - 11/05/2014 04:27:07 PM 1694 Views
Wild guess... fionwe1987 - 11/05/2014 06:51:27 PM 1738 Views
One of Terez's criteria DomA - 11/05/2014 09:24:57 PM 1694 Views
Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 12/05/2014 08:51:33 AM 1713 Views
Re: Hmmm... DomA - 13/05/2014 06:14:12 PM 1916 Views
Even I don't know what Dom is talking about. *NM* Terez - 13/05/2014 06:24:23 PM 1082 Views
Does it have anything to do with the Sharans? fionwe1987 - 13/05/2014 10:35:45 PM 1753 Views
no Terez - 14/05/2014 07:52:27 AM 1794 Views
Wasn't there a Sister who was a Queen or sister to a King or something like that... Shannow - 13/05/2014 09:26:02 PM 1832 Views
Kiruna... fionwe1987 - 13/05/2014 10:34:32 PM 1781 Views
Re: Wasn't there a Sister who was a Queen or sister to a King or something like that... DomA - 14/05/2014 03:16:24 AM 1881 Views
Re: Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 13/05/2014 10:38:05 PM 1649 Views
Re: Hmmm... DomA - 14/05/2014 04:09:42 AM 1736 Views
Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? fionwe1987 - 14/05/2014 04:37:20 AM 1814 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? Terez - 14/05/2014 07:55:20 AM 1776 Views
fionwe1987 - 14/05/2014 08:14:05 AM 1698 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? DomA - 15/05/2014 03:59:02 AM 1860 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? fionwe1987 - 16/05/2014 04:06:02 PM 1715 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? DomA - 17/05/2014 03:01:25 AM 1826 Views
Perhaps Romanda? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/06/2015 04:22:31 PM 1850 Views
Re: Perhaps Romanda? darius_sedai - 05/06/2015 08:39:31 PM 1519 Views
Re: Wild guess... Terez - 12/05/2014 05:33:53 AM 1854 Views
Just tell them it is Satelle Anan, or one of those women who got burned out early in life... Shannow - 12/05/2014 11:59:06 AM 1887 Views
Have you even read my subject lines? :p *NM* Terez - 12/05/2014 01:05:47 PM 1068 Views
Alternatively, someone who went to live in Far Madding... Shannow - 12/05/2014 12:08:07 PM 1803 Views
That was one of my guesses... fionwe1987 - 12/05/2014 04:57:56 PM 1570 Views
Redirect to my initial "Not weird" post. *NM* Terez - 12/05/2014 06:59:02 PM 1093 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. Zalvera - 20/05/2014 02:23:13 AM 1715 Views
Lots of no *NM* Terez - 20/05/2014 02:30:25 AM 1119 Views
You're killing me. Zalvera - 20/05/2014 02:55:21 AM 1748 Views
I won't just tell you :p But... Terez - 20/05/2014 10:31:27 AM 1787 Views
Wild speculation Zalvera - 20/05/2014 01:39:52 PM 1717 Views
Could it be Verin who always used her angreal? Shannow - 20/05/2014 02:07:30 PM 1703 Views
Hmmm Zalvera - 20/05/2014 03:37:57 PM 1722 Views
Well, I'm not saying she did it to appear weaker... Shannow - 20/05/2014 03:48:10 PM 1699 Views
The buffer Zalvera - 20/05/2014 04:10:58 PM 1761 Views
I doubt using an angreal means you don't progress in natural strength beetnemesis - 20/05/2014 06:02:00 PM 1885 Views
Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. Terez - 20/05/2014 11:53:11 PM 1778 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. Zalvera - 21/05/2014 01:55:15 AM 1708 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. DomA - 22/05/2014 02:33:30 AM 1802 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. Terez - 22/05/2014 05:04:00 AM 1838 Views
So... fionwe1987 - 22/05/2014 05:12:48 AM 1694 Views
While I'm peeved that this issue gets more attention than the strength list, I like a mystery... Shannow - 22/05/2014 08:49:02 AM 1731 Views
Re: While I'm peeved that this issue gets more attention than the strength list, I like a mystery... Zalvera - 22/05/2014 12:03:02 PM 1633 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. Zalvera - 22/05/2014 11:55:38 AM 1715 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. DomA - 24/05/2014 02:07:01 AM 1713 Views
I didn't say that Terez - 24/05/2014 11:24:30 PM 1762 Views
Re: I didn't say that DomA - 25/05/2014 02:32:46 PM 1798 Views
did she deliberately keep her growth slow? A small theory too darius_sedai - 17/05/2015 11:54:28 PM 1676 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/06/2015 05:49:42 PM 1933 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. darius_sedai - 04/06/2015 06:05:28 PM 1618 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/06/2015 06:23:28 PM 1939 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. darius_sedai - 04/06/2015 08:37:20 PM 1582 Views
I think this will be in the Encyclopedia, so... Terez - 10/06/2015 03:06:42 PM 1709 Views
you are such a tease *NM* darius_sedai - 10/06/2015 09:05:10 PM 916 Views
Why doesn't someone... Terez - 24/05/2014 11:25:51 PM 1927 Views
Favourite part about this post... Duke - 12/05/2014 07:12:51 AM 1961 Views
With regard to #10- does it involve the Oath Rod, in some way? beetnemesis - 15/05/2014 02:53:45 PM 1727 Views
no *NM* Terez - 15/05/2014 07:16:16 PM 1066 Views
Oh, I know! It's the Sea Folk Aes Sedai! beetnemesis - 17/05/2014 01:32:04 PM 1817 Views
Re: Oh, I know! It's the Sea Folk Aes Sedai! DomA - 17/05/2014 08:45:59 PM 1857 Views
An Aes Sedai who was sent away from the Tower? beetnemesis - 17/05/2014 10:01:44 PM 1868 Views
Again, no reason to think this Aes Sedai did not channel often. *NM* Terez - 18/05/2014 04:32:06 AM 1112 Views
Did the Aes Sedai live in relative seclusion, did she have a Warder, and did that Warder die? *NM* beetnemesis - 20/05/2014 06:03:04 PM 1232 Views
Too specific Terez - 20/05/2014 11:51:25 PM 1777 Views
Re: Too specific Dirty - 21/05/2014 05:32:32 AM 1714 Views
You think THAT isn't specific? *NM* fionwe1987 - 22/05/2014 02:41:53 AM 1108 Views
It's a fine mess that no one can work out Sidious - 09/06/2014 09:20:56 AM 1975 Views
Re: It's a fine mess that no one can work out RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/06/2015 08:48:20 PM 1994 Views
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