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One Power strength: New information from RJ's notes fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 01/05/2014 11:39:32 PM

Lets' try revive the board a little eh?

As some of you may know, RJ's notes are now publicly viewable at the Charleston Library. Terez, of the Theoryland database fame, appropriately dug into this trove of information, and has been dribbling out minor tidbits.

Given one of the major obsessions of this board used to be the OP strength list, I'm happy to report there's extensive notes on that, and we'll probably see some form of the strength list show up in the WoT encyclopedia Harriet is compiling (due out next year most likely).

Other than that, though, there are some major shockers:

1) There was a time when RJ actually wanted to place Cadsuane higher than Egwene/Elayne/Aviendha at full potential. He changed his mind, probably because he was reminded that the Aes Sedai clearly say Elayne was the strongest woman to have come to the Tower in a thousand years.

2) Cadsuane is very close in strength to those three, however.

3) Biggest shocker: That 21 level list? It was all Aes Sedai only, and Elaida/Siuan/Moiraine topped that list (level 1). Stronger women (including Cadsuane) were marked with +x from that list.

4) The Aes Sedai list, however, was later expanded to a 33 level list. Daigian was level 33, and Elaida level 1 in this new Aes Sedai list.

5) The complete strength list has around 66 levels (maybe a little more). Moiraine after time with the Finns is about level 66. In this new list, Elaida is at level 13, Daigian at level 45, and all women stronger than Elaida occupy levels 1-12.

6) Nynaeve is indeed high up in the list. Lanfear is level 1. No confirmation, but Sharina might indeed be the same level.

7) From hints Terez has given, Alivia is not Lanfear level.

Brandon was most likely wrong about Mesaana being a much weaker Foresaken.

9) There doesn't seem to be any actually strength values for these levels, unfortunately.

10) A juicy tidbit: an "old school" Aes Sedai, who is also old, never reached her full potential. No clue who this is, but it can be worked out apparently.

Discuss!

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One Power strength: New information from RJ's notes - 01/05/2014 11:39:32 PM 4722 Views
interesting. i wonder what else they'll dig up - 01/05/2014 11:46:19 PM 2025 Views
College of Charleston library - 02/05/2014 12:21:01 AM 2120 Views
Still... really cool, thanks! *NM* - 03/05/2014 06:35:05 PM 1105 Views
Mesaana - 02/05/2014 12:26:19 AM 2125 Views
Re: Mesaana - 02/05/2014 12:37:52 AM 2195 Views
Danelle - 02/05/2014 12:59:51 AM 2027 Views
Interesting... - 02/05/2014 05:13:44 PM 2063 Views
Re: Mesaana - 26/05/2015 10:21:33 PM 1666 Views
Bringing it all together... - 02/05/2014 10:34:12 AM 2051 Views
Can't accept that, sorry... - 02/05/2014 03:17:05 PM 2129 Views
How that CAN be interpreted however, is... - 02/05/2014 03:38:38 PM 1783 Views
Sorry, no... - 02/05/2014 06:00:56 PM 1799 Views
Here are some key flaws, unfortunately... - 02/05/2014 07:56:53 PM 1662 Views
Sorry, you're mistaking the Tower for the world... - 02/05/2014 09:50:23 PM 1732 Views
Re: Sorry, you're mistaking the Tower for the world... - 02/05/2014 09:59:45 PM 1716 Views
Not totally accurate - 17/05/2015 11:15:30 PM 1641 Views
Re: Not totally accurate - 05/06/2015 03:23:08 PM 1810 Views
Re: Not totally accurate - 05/06/2015 08:22:13 PM 1638 Views
Re: Not totally accurate - 05/06/2015 09:16:51 PM 1981 Views
Re: Not totally accurate - 06/06/2015 03:48:34 PM 1618 Views
Re: How that CAN be interpreted however, is... - 02/05/2014 09:39:06 PM 1925 Views
Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. - 02/05/2014 09:57:37 PM 1797 Views
Ahh, the Rand with Egwene and Elayne scene... - 02/05/2014 10:19:05 PM 2161 Views
Re: Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. - 02/05/2014 10:45:12 PM 1849 Views
About that... - 02/05/2014 10:48:18 PM 1702 Views
Re: About that... - 02/05/2014 11:12:01 PM 1849 Views
Re: About that... - 17/05/2015 03:07:22 AM 1566 Views
Re: Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. - 05/06/2015 03:16:50 PM 1847 Views
Thanks a ton for that Dom... - 02/05/2014 10:24:02 PM 1715 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... - 02/05/2014 11:09:16 PM 1646 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... - 02/05/2014 11:36:55 PM 1796 Views
More on Aiel learners - 03/05/2014 12:46:19 AM 1767 Views
Interesting. - 03/05/2014 02:32:23 AM 1695 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... - 03/05/2014 01:02:23 AM 1807 Views
Oh... - 03/05/2014 02:35:08 AM 1735 Views
Re: Oh... - 03/05/2014 04:29:34 AM 2275 Views
Can you clarify something here Dom/Terez? - 07/05/2014 01:31:54 AM 1852 Views
Re: Can you clarify something here Dom/Terez? - 07/05/2014 02:59:42 AM 1950 Views
Thanks Dom, I'm genuinely puzzled, though... - 07/05/2014 09:04:08 AM 1872 Views
Some things to consider... - 07/05/2014 11:22:46 PM 1684 Views
Re: Some things to consider... - 17/05/2015 03:32:22 AM 1585 Views
Vegeta! What does the scouter say about his power level? - 02/05/2014 04:38:59 PM 1688 Views
mmm, Vegeta *NM* - 03/05/2014 08:32:36 AM 1104 Views
Sorilea and comments on the general structure of the notes - 02/05/2014 09:20:26 PM 2035 Views
Is there any reference whatsoever about strength multiples? - 02/05/2014 09:34:50 PM 1872 Views
I will let you know if I see something like that... - 02/05/2014 10:20:46 PM 1706 Views
Thanks. Because it will solve the entire riddle - 03/05/2014 11:04:31 PM 1829 Views
Re: Thanks. Because it will solve the entire riddle - 04/05/2014 06:16:52 AM 1866 Views
Interesting... - 04/05/2014 08:14:19 AM 1874 Views
Re: Interesting... - 05/05/2014 04:08:41 PM 1825 Views
LOL! - 02/05/2014 09:46:11 PM 1904 Views
More info on Sorilea - 02/05/2014 10:04:50 PM 2000 Views
This is great! - 02/05/2014 10:23:31 PM 1954 Views
In the original he might have kissed her. - 03/05/2014 12:49:53 AM 1767 Views
Having read some of his other books with sex, I've always been curious about this. - 05/05/2014 02:53:00 PM 2038 Views
Easy answer - 10/05/2014 02:49:53 PM 1764 Views
Can't argue with that! - 18/05/2014 12:31:01 AM 1895 Views
Therava/Galina - 10/05/2014 02:58:09 PM 2390 Views
Came across one of the oldest strength lists I'd seen... - 02/05/2014 10:46:29 PM 1810 Views
#10 seems weird. An Aes Sedai who never reached her full potential? - 03/05/2014 06:43:41 PM 1942 Views
Not weird. There is a good reason. - 03/05/2014 09:30:40 PM 1919 Views
One question... - 03/05/2014 09:44:35 PM 1872 Views
yes to both *NM* - 03/05/2014 10:49:29 PM 1151 Views
Suian? - 04/05/2014 04:50:32 PM 1822 Views
Does not meet the criteria I gave. *NM* - 10/05/2014 05:23:27 AM 1050 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 11/05/2014 05:49:31 AM 1755 Views
Not someone who was severed, burned out, or anything like that. *NM* - 11/05/2014 01:27:28 PM 1067 Views
Did she join the Aes Sedai especially early or late in life? - 11/05/2014 01:47:27 PM 1769 Views
no... - 11/05/2014 04:27:07 PM 1642 Views
Wild guess... - 11/05/2014 06:51:27 PM 1677 Views
One of Terez's criteria - 11/05/2014 09:24:57 PM 1634 Views
Hmmm... - 12/05/2014 08:51:33 AM 1660 Views
Re: Hmmm... - 13/05/2014 06:14:12 PM 1863 Views
Even I don't know what Dom is talking about. *NM* - 13/05/2014 06:24:23 PM 1043 Views
Does it have anything to do with the Sharans? - 13/05/2014 10:35:45 PM 1699 Views
no - 14/05/2014 07:52:27 AM 1738 Views
Wasn't there a Sister who was a Queen or sister to a King or something like that... - 13/05/2014 09:26:02 PM 1780 Views
Kiruna... - 13/05/2014 10:34:32 PM 1728 Views
Re: Hmmm... - 13/05/2014 10:38:05 PM 1590 Views
Re: Hmmm... - 14/05/2014 04:09:42 AM 1679 Views
Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 14/05/2014 04:37:20 AM 1755 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 14/05/2014 07:55:20 AM 1720 Views
- 14/05/2014 08:14:05 AM 1642 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 15/05/2014 03:59:02 AM 1793 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 16/05/2014 04:06:02 PM 1657 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 17/05/2014 03:01:25 AM 1757 Views
Perhaps Romanda? - 05/06/2015 04:22:31 PM 1786 Views
Re: Perhaps Romanda? - 05/06/2015 08:39:31 PM 1453 Views
Re: Wild guess... - 12/05/2014 05:33:53 AM 1792 Views
Alternatively, someone who went to live in Far Madding... - 12/05/2014 12:08:07 PM 1739 Views
That was one of my guesses... - 12/05/2014 04:57:56 PM 1512 Views
Redirect to my initial "Not weird" post. *NM* - 12/05/2014 06:59:02 PM 1058 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 20/05/2014 02:23:13 AM 1662 Views
Lots of no *NM* - 20/05/2014 02:30:25 AM 1080 Views
You're killing me. - 20/05/2014 02:55:21 AM 1667 Views
I won't just tell you :p But... - 20/05/2014 10:31:27 AM 1739 Views
Wild speculation - 20/05/2014 01:39:52 PM 1666 Views
Could it be Verin who always used her angreal? - 20/05/2014 02:07:30 PM 1648 Views
Hmmm - 20/05/2014 03:37:57 PM 1662 Views
Well, I'm not saying she did it to appear weaker... - 20/05/2014 03:48:10 PM 1582 Views
The buffer - 20/05/2014 04:10:58 PM 1710 Views
I doubt using an angreal means you don't progress in natural strength - 20/05/2014 06:02:00 PM 1833 Views
Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 20/05/2014 11:53:11 PM 1722 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 21/05/2014 01:55:15 AM 1656 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 22/05/2014 02:33:30 AM 1740 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 22/05/2014 05:04:00 AM 1787 Views
So... - 22/05/2014 05:12:48 AM 1642 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 22/05/2014 11:55:38 AM 1650 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 24/05/2014 02:07:01 AM 1650 Views
I didn't say that - 24/05/2014 11:24:30 PM 1705 Views
Re: I didn't say that - 25/05/2014 02:32:46 PM 1723 Views
did she deliberately keep her growth slow? A small theory too - 17/05/2015 11:54:28 PM 1620 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 04/06/2015 05:49:42 PM 1868 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 04/06/2015 06:05:28 PM 1561 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 04/06/2015 06:23:28 PM 1832 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 04/06/2015 08:37:20 PM 1515 Views
I think this will be in the Encyclopedia, so... - 10/06/2015 03:06:42 PM 1649 Views
you are such a tease *NM* - 10/06/2015 09:05:10 PM 877 Views
Why doesn't someone... - 24/05/2014 11:25:51 PM 1874 Views
Favourite part about this post... - 12/05/2014 07:12:51 AM 1888 Views
With regard to #10- does it involve the Oath Rod, in some way? - 15/05/2014 02:53:45 PM 1668 Views
no *NM* - 15/05/2014 07:16:16 PM 1032 Views
Oh, I know! It's the Sea Folk Aes Sedai! - 17/05/2014 01:32:04 PM 1762 Views
Re: Oh, I know! It's the Sea Folk Aes Sedai! - 17/05/2014 08:45:59 PM 1796 Views
An Aes Sedai who was sent away from the Tower? - 17/05/2014 10:01:44 PM 1813 Views
Again, no reason to think this Aes Sedai did not channel often. *NM* - 18/05/2014 04:32:06 AM 1072 Views
Did the Aes Sedai live in relative seclusion, did she have a Warder, and did that Warder die? *NM* - 20/05/2014 06:03:04 PM 1170 Views
Too specific - 20/05/2014 11:51:25 PM 1722 Views
Re: Too specific - 21/05/2014 05:32:32 AM 1649 Views
You think THAT isn't specific? *NM* - 22/05/2014 02:41:53 AM 1070 Views
It's a fine mess that no one can work out - 09/06/2014 09:20:56 AM 1908 Views
Re: It's a fine mess that no one can work out - 04/06/2015 08:48:20 PM 1916 Views

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