Active Users:220 Time:06/05/2024 08:30:49 PM
I don't think I'm making my point clear darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 17/02/2016 02:36:51 AM

There is no religion in WOT. There is a general sense from the individuals in the WOT world that there is a sentient (although there is no proof of actual sentience) being who created them. There is also an "evil" force that clearly has sentience. None of is means there is an actual deity. The Dark One might wish to become a deity, but more likely seems to be a nihilist.

I see nothing in that which inherently means the "Creator" or the "Dark One" truly had anything to do with creation ... One of the main points RJ hit on throuhghout the series dealt with myth becoming legend in a never ending loop. What 3rd age WOT people discuss as the Creator could very well be some form of deity, but could just as easily be completely non-sentient, or an early myth with roots in the very real OP before man could comprehend what that force was. The DO could as easily be a human who discovered some alternate power source ... We are given zero explaination of how the DO truly came into existence. But the closest parallel seems to be from the Zoroastrian myths of Ahrura Mazda and Ahriman, which most of humanity today believes to be nothing more than ancient man putting context into creation. No reason to believe RJs construct of the Creator and the Dark One is anything more than elaborate myth. We know the 2nd Agers didn't believe in any sort of deity until the Dark One was freed and showed sentience. But that doesn't prove that the Creator is either sentient or a Deity.

Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
This message last edited by darius_sedai on 19/02/2016 at 01:44:30 PM
Reply to message
What unsolved mysteries do you think other posters can help you with? - 22/12/2015 12:10:32 PM 2682 Views
Moridin - 22/12/2015 05:25:42 PM 1345 Views
I would agree on that. - 23/12/2015 11:19:44 AM 1326 Views
Alviarin seems the most likely culprit for Sarha - 23/12/2015 06:07:16 PM 1388 Views
She was also the one who saw Sahra talking to Min *NM* - 23/12/2015 10:42:31 PM 711 Views
Why this Third Age - 31/12/2015 07:02:38 AM 1439 Views
Some small things - 03/01/2016 07:43:02 PM 1400 Views
Re: Some small things - 03/01/2016 08:41:09 PM 1383 Views
Re: Some small things - 03/01/2016 08:57:15 PM 1335 Views
Re: Some small things - 03/01/2016 09:07:22 PM 1463 Views
Re: Some small things - 03/01/2016 09:21:56 PM 1232 Views
Re: Some small things - 03/01/2016 09:37:23 PM 1293 Views
Is there confirmation of who sent the 100,000 trollocs? *NM* - 03/01/2016 08:03:24 PM 801 Views
Re: Is there confirmation of who sent the 100,000 trollocs? EDIT - 03/01/2016 08:44:04 PM 1313 Views
Re: Is there confirmation of who sent the 100,000 trollocs? EDIT - 04/01/2016 11:10:54 AM 1346 Views
true - 05/01/2016 04:44:26 PM 1122 Views
Re: true - 09/01/2016 10:15:07 PM 1266 Views
Could she have sent the Trollocs without Moridin knowing though? - 09/01/2016 10:49:44 PM 1204 Views
I think it was Demandred. Verin gave the hint in KOD actually. - 04/03/2016 09:59:36 PM 1749 Views
I wonder how crazy Rand was? - 03/01/2016 11:51:42 PM 1275 Views
I'm going with pretty damn crazy - 05/01/2016 04:47:19 PM 1335 Views
Re: I wonder how crazy Rand was? - 17/01/2016 07:47:11 AM 1085 Views
Something about pillow friends - 09/01/2016 07:53:48 PM 1205 Views
Re: Something about pillow friends - 09/01/2016 10:16:36 PM 1362 Views
Where's the racism and homophobia in WOT? - 09/01/2016 08:07:06 PM 1192 Views
Re: Where's the racism and homophobia in WOT? - 09/01/2016 10:21:16 PM 1309 Views
Agreed - 09/01/2016 11:07:13 PM 954 Views
Re: Agreed - 09/01/2016 11:24:50 PM 1000 Views
Exactly - 09/01/2016 11:42:14 PM 947 Views
Re: Where's the racism and homophobia in WOT? - 09/01/2016 11:13:22 PM 866 Views
Re: Where's the racism and homophobia in WOT? - 09/01/2016 11:33:54 PM 1176 Views
Re: Where's the racism and homophobia in WOT? - 10/01/2016 12:12:01 AM 1082 Views
Re: Where's the racism and homophobia in WOT? - 10/01/2016 09:23:46 PM 947 Views
Re: Where's the racism and homophobia in WOT? - 10/01/2016 10:25:12 PM 971 Views
Re: Where's the racism and homophobia in WOT? - 11/01/2016 06:11:37 PM 1088 Views
Re: Where's the racism and homophobia in WOT? - 11/01/2016 06:04:00 AM 1314 Views
Re: Where's the racism and homophobia in WOT? - 10/01/2016 02:25:21 PM 1605 Views
What Logain quote are you referencing? *NM* - 11/01/2016 06:07:57 PM 527 Views
Logain stated that Rand is stronger than him because he makes larger Gateways *NM* - 11/01/2016 06:24:34 PM 543 Views
Oh I thought he was referencing a homophobic comment! *NM* - 11/01/2016 06:43:48 PM 596 Views
Re: Where's the racism and homophobia in WOT? - 16/01/2016 02:44:01 AM 1388 Views
That is a big logical leap, and dodges rather than answering the question - 08/02/2016 11:52:11 AM 1132 Views
Re: That is a big logical leap, and dodges rather than answering the question - 13/02/2016 03:52:18 AM 1059 Views
Jordans world lacks a God or religions? - 13/02/2016 04:57:10 PM 1202 Views
Re: Jordans world lacks a God or religions? - 14/02/2016 09:33:18 AM 1382 Views
Just because Randland is Deist does not make it deity-free. - 14/02/2016 01:59:58 PM 1212 Views
It is better to say there is no organized religion - 14/02/2016 10:12:35 PM 1027 Views
That sounds about right - 15/02/2016 11:21:42 AM 1020 Views
Perhaps, but perhaps not - 16/02/2016 01:26:46 AM 1007 Views
A non-deity Creator is a distinction without a difference - 16/02/2016 03:52:24 AM 1184 Views
I don't think I'm making my point clear - 17/02/2016 02:36:51 AM 877 Views
Re: That is a big logical leap, and dodges rather than answering the question - 14/02/2016 09:31:21 AM 1319 Views
Not disputing any of that - 15/02/2016 11:52:45 AM 995 Views
How did Narg learn the common tongue? Is he just smart? *NM* - 11/01/2016 11:30:49 PM 485 Views
He was one of the smarter Trollocs, yeah - 11/01/2016 11:45:54 PM 996 Views

Reply to Message